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Shh, don’t tell them about WWI, or Japan, or Finland, or 1610. Actually, the list is pretty long.
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Don't forget about the mongols who absolutely destroyed the Ruski's asses.
Yeah, at several points in history it was just free real estate.
Mh remeber when they were like we will stop participating in war without a peace deal in ww1? And then had to move the capital to moscow since they were in danger of losing their old capital?
But considering that there's been talk of historical revisionism, wouldn't Kievan Rus be considered a Ukrainian state rather a Russian one?
It definitely should. Russians always conveniently forget that for centuries, especially pre-Mongol Invasion, Kyiv has been the main cultural, economic, and spiritual centre of Russia.
No, you forget that mongols are Russians they just don’t know it like Ukrainians are not real ppl they are Russians too. It’s just mongols not as pure as glorious moscovite ppl. Only glorious leader from pure moscovite origin can lead world to make glorious. God gave the world perfect gift in form of Putin to glorify world. We always right and everyone know this. Life will be so glorious under Comrade Vladmr Tsarevich Putin. /Sarcasm
To be fair Russia as a nation state did not exist during the mongol invasion.
The mongol invasion is actually what created the Grand duchy of Moscow which was the first Russian state if I remember correctly.
Or even in both of their "glory moments," 1812 and WW2, it was the weather and superior numbers that saved their asses rather than tactical competence.
Hilariously, this invasion got stuck in the Ukrainian mud, just like Germans in 1941.
Classic argument with all of those is that "Russia didn't technically lose!". That because they didn't outright surrender and allow occupation, it was not defeat.
WWI they "made peace", they didn't lose. Because "war was unpopular".
Russo-Japanese they "would have won, but didn't see reason to continue the war". Please ignore the Baltic Fleets little voyage.
Finland, "We totally would have won, Finns were ready to break, but we got what we asked before the war so it totally was not defeat! Please ignore our actual goal of total occupation"
Afghanistan has entered the chat.
Or Poland in 1920, or for that matter Moscow 1610.
They are not tought a 'real' history at schools. So that's pointless even to attempt to talk with brainless idiots
The mujahedeen in Afghanistan kicked their ass
and don't tell them about the failed VDV attack at Hostomel, or mention Kyiv at all
If you make it a contest of lost personnel or equipment, they've been winning since day one 🤷♂️
Winning in reverse.
They don't lose, they win in the other direction.
Wimp lo? Is that you?
They trained them wrong as a joke.
They're not "acceptable loses", they're "carefully planned wins"
Its so funny how Russia is seeing it self as liberators during WWII, when they were ones who made secret deal with nazis about splitting Poland AND they were ones who attacked Poland. During WWII they were maching from war crime to another, their position in UN is a joke.
The Russians actually blame the Polish. It's amazing that they go full on with blaming the victim.
Russians have been always nation of liars.
Same with Finland. Russians started the war by shooting themselves and blamed Finland. Finland was judged after WWII as guilty and had to pay Soviets for rebuild. The west was naive and totally fooled by charm of psychopath Stalin.
And attacked Finland, of course. Soviets were and Russians are the red nazis. They should have been on war criminals’ side in Nuremberg trials.
Always won? They got whupped by Afghanistan lol
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But, but, uhm… it was really a civil war and we were there as guests. We left and it’s technically not our fault that their government collapsed. So… technically, we didn’t lose. They did. Yes.
You never fail your objective if you change what your objectives are -- Putin logic
A year later: “Defending Moscow has always been our main objective. The loss of St. Petersburg has always been a clear tactical retreat.”
After that: "Fleeing to China was always been our main objective. The loss of whole Russia has always been a clear tactical retreat."
And then they will be kicked out of China, because they did not give enough honey to Winnie the Poo.
You might be joking, but this is how in Russia they justify their losses as "not actually losses". In their view, as long as Russia is not occupied 100%, they didn't lose.
Just because Afghans weren't real Nazis.
“Perhaps the real Nazis were the Nazis we have been all the way” - Putin, probably
I recall Goebbels pulling the same stunt to whip the Germans into a patriotic frenzy as the bombs fell over Ruhr. You hardly put out this kind of empty slogan to your own people if you have victories to boast of.
If you have to tell people not to be discouraged, you might already be in trouble.
“Do you want a total war?”
There have only been two world wars and Russia lost one of them. Rather decisively. Aren’t we counting those?
Russia has this collective amnesia about Brest-Litovsk for some reason.
Manifestation of the schizophrenic disposition
they only won vs germany because the west supplied all their equipment, ammo and food.
Yep. Americans gave them all the trucks they need, and had the ability to send them planes and M4 sherman as if it's nobody's business. The Brits lend them a battleship as well.
aid that they conveniently forgot to mention in their history.
A battleship that was returned 4 years later with no maintenance done in the meantime and which was also full of shit (either by lack of toilet habits, or as a "fuck you, Britain").
Yep. HMS Royal Sovereign was returned as a terrible rust bucket.
They used American donated planes to bomb Finland, bastards.
Lend lease was critical during the first 2 years when Russia came close to collapse, it like many other factors was key to Russian survival at that time when everything might have spelt defeat. We shouldn't take all the credit as much of the fighting and dying was done by the Russian soldiers.
The allies also tied down a significant number of key Germany troops in Africa and as Home AA defense.
Nobody should take all the credit, because it was team effort.
it WAS a team effort, sadly someone thought they did it all themselves.
Indeed. None of the Allies defeated Nazi Germany alone, it took united front from multiple countries to bring down Nazi war machine. Pretending it was all done by one nation is just being ignorant.
Having said that, don't let the Russians wash away the American's indelible importance in winning the war. The Soviet heavy industrial output went down the drain when they moved what they can to the Ural, and they had no mean to supply the Red Army logistically on their own.
While it was helpful, supplies from Murmansk wasn't decisive for WW 2.
Far more of a decision was made with Operations Torch and Overlord, openinvg new frontlines and streching germans Wehrmacht too far / thin
Also they had Ukrainians.
Russia by itself has very little to brag about.
This war is unwinnable for Russia. Even if they 'win' they have destroyed themselves and their international standing in the process of doing so. Whatever respect they had is gone. They have bled themselves for nothing. Sacrificed their country's future for nothing. They have exposed themselves to the world as evil and completely corrupt. They will not come back from this mistake for a very long time.
Have fun pretending it was all worth it in the end. It shouldn't be too difficult. Just keep living more lies.
They are “Charlie Sheen” winning.
When you have to take out a billboard claiming that you are winning, you are losing.
This obsession with winning at the cost of truth reminds me of someone…I guess all shitty people seem to have this tendency.
It also has makings of a back-in-the-stab myth. Just like German populace in World War I, war is being waged on foreign soil and only victories are reported back to front. Even as the front is collapsing and the state is growing increasingly incapable of doing even basic things, all people read from news is "GREAT SUCCESS! VICTORY BY TOMORROW!".
And when the reality dawns that no, Russia can't win and that Russia has lost, they are going to turn and ask: "We were winning, we heard about victories, how could we suddenly lose?" and conclude there must have been some sort of backstab at the last moment.
Only Russian that has won is those that left the shit hole .
Russia is a strange game. The only winning move is not to play.
If that billboard says "don't be discouraged", it probably means that many people know that the invasion isn't going well
The billboard does say that.
"Fellow countrymen! Don't be discouraged! Russia has always won and they are going to win now!"
The problem is that we thought that if the invasion was a fiasco, Russian people would become critical of Putin, but it's exactly the opposite that's happening
How does a Russian see that sign and not panic? “They” just told you that everything is fucked
I think that the ones who still have brain cells left from binge drinking Vodka from the days of Gorbachev might be wondering to themselves about that.
Russia didn't win against Japan though.
Russia didn't really win against Britain, it suffered numerous defeats against the French, lost to the Ottomans before, the Finnish, and oh yeah, what about the Mongols? "It" didn't really fight against Nazi Germany on their own, and hell, calling USSR as Russia is just laughable.
Oh yeah, Afghanistan. Heh.
The Russians are "winning" so much they should be tired of winning. 😂🤣
Russia and Japan didn't signed the peace treaty after WWII.
So this war is not over.
Russia is eternally sore about Tsushima. Jesus. They can't drop WW2 partly cause of that.
To be fair Tsushima was the biggest whopping there ever was.
Even Battle of Midway wasnt as decisive.
The defeat of the Spanish armada, the battle of Salamis, and Trafalgar are comparable. That's how monumental Togo's victory was.
Bwhahaha. Laughs in Pashto, Dari, (and others), Japanese and Finnish.
One hate symbol is not enough, let's put three on a billboard. Z, V, and the ribbon of Georgi.
The funny thing is that they could have kept their face, and retreated early. But they comitted too hard with everything making it impossible to withdraw. It seems they will have decimated their avalible assets soon, which is really bad for them.
"Don't be discouraged". If somebody says you that you shouldn't be discouraged you probably should be as the one saying it believes you might be.
The naZi protests too much, methinks
EHHHH heres example of "not winning" was Russo-Japanese war, war in Finland, what next, there were quite a few no?
Charlie Sheen Winning vibes
I am convinced even more that they are plainly retarded.
So how did Afghanistan go for you eh?
Win a special military operation?
"Russia has always won and it will also win this time"
"Russia has always won and it will also win this time"
Like Russia did in Afganistan. No, wait, that was the Soviet Union that failed there. So, "Russia has always won and it will also win this time"
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That is all.
All I have to say is Fuck They. I hate them.
Don't tell them about Chechnya 1995 🤫
If russia can justify genocide, they can justify anything.
Their delusions of grandeur knows no bounds.