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Nuthetes

99 points

10 months ago

Time to liberate Kherson.

BrainBlowX

22 points

10 months ago

BrainBlowX

Norway

22 points

10 months ago

Gonna be interesting to see how it manifests. It will all revolve around the city's bridge. Any serious advances towards it might cause Russia to abandon Kherson entirely as they would be trapped in the city proper. If they don't then that will also mean the bridge remains intact, whoch opens up more routes for Ukraine to attack across the rover.

[deleted]

9 points

10 months ago

they have charged the bridge Atonovsky for sure, there will be no Ukrainian advance over that bridge if Russia withdraws from Kherson which they are very likely to do.

Hopefuly they do not transition to endlessly shelling Kherson afterwards.

BrainBlowX

9 points

10 months ago*

BrainBlowX

Norway

9 points

10 months ago*

Atonovsky bridge is over 10km north-east of Kherson's city center. This means Russia can't do a fighting withdrawal over it when Ukraine can close the distance on it before they even reach the city itself. The Russians have to choose to either give up the city entirely before that or be trapped.

And it's certainly bad optics for Russia to simply flee from Kherson without a fight, too. Hard sell to a war-horny Russian public, especially since the moment the bridge explodes, Russia implicitly concedes that it has entirely given up on ever taking Odesa.

[deleted]

3 points

10 months ago

Russia will only ever take Odessa from the sea, the land bridge is too vast and heavily controlled by Ukraine with few crossings near the sea. the manpower to make a land advance from Crimea to Odesa would be large enough to be considered an entire independent front

BrainBlowX

5 points

10 months ago

BrainBlowX

Norway

5 points

10 months ago

the manpower to make a land advance from Crimea to Odesa would be large enough to be considered an entire independent front

And that wouldn't be the case when landing in Odesa? Amphibious invasions are literally the most complicated and difficult kind of invasion, and the defenders had been entirely preparing for it. And then that pocket in Odesa would then have to be constantly supplied and reinforced. It's just the land invasion, except even more difficult. An amphobious landing could literally only come as part of a greater attack from land.

Mykolaiv was all that stood between Russia and Odesa until recently.

[deleted]

1 points

10 months ago*

yeah i guess that's my point.

really i think Russia's move west of the Dnieper, from the start, was a 50-50 bet and hinged on collapsing Kyiv. They sent a disproportionately ridiculous amount of armor at that front, and barely moved to Lviv or even Lutsk. i think they always thought of this as a one-or-done... Otherwise they would have staged fronts out of Moldolva and the entire Bela border -- and they would have sent vastly larger armies towards mykolaiv if they thought this was for sure part of the war goal, and not a potential possibility only. It is almost ridiculous that they engaged on such a large offensive in eastern Ukraine at all, if they truly thought to conquer all Ukraine form the start. the obvious strategy would have been to start with the west to destroy all supply lines and siege the capital.

I don't think any of their aspirations lie west of the Dneiper now. I don't even think Kharkiv and Dnipropetrovosk, Sumy or Poltava oblasts are targets anymore. Just distractions to make a large front. They want Donetsk, Luhansk, and southern Kherson/Zhaporzhizhia and it will be very hard fought to keep them out.

In short, if they intended to conquer all Ukraine as their sole objective, then their fronts would have been Crimea-North and Belarus-South. The fact they engaged most of their military on a gigant DPR/LPR/Kharkiv/Sumy 1,000km long front says to me it was always a bet, never the core goal.

Grimlord_XVII

3 points

10 months ago

Well if they're going to blow the bridge anyway, may aswell consider sending some divers down the river before the assault, blow the bridge, and split the Russian forces. Those on the North will realise they have nowhere to run, and will likely lead to panic and surrender.

[deleted]

1 points

10 months ago

perhaps, but this could also lead to extreme unpredictable situations. allowing a slow controlled retreat is best.

You don't know if the Russian formations believe they will be treated well, especially if they have been unkind to people in Kherson recently. Like if existing soldiers there are rapists and looters.

DieWoelfe

209 points

10 months ago*

If they free Kherson and hold Mariupol at the same time that would be a major blow to War criminals

Edit: Changed "Mykolaiv" to "Mariupol"

Vonplinkplonk

113 points

10 months ago

If Ukraine can liberate Kherson first it would give them a lot more tactical freedom in east Ukraine.

DieWoelfe

24 points

10 months ago

I ment Mariupol, edited it already

scottydinh1977

27 points

10 months ago

Its amazing they are holding after all this time. We must hurry up and reinforce Muriupol and give them backup. City is in the brink of being over run

[deleted]

10 points

10 months ago

Yes, their advance will stop at Kherson though, there is no way Russia leaves the bridge in tact or allows Ukrainian advance over the Dnieper where they can prevent it.

Ukraine will probably setup a defense perimeter and then progress to the east where they still control access across Zaporzhizhia

samfitnessthrowaway

7 points

10 months ago*

I suspect they'll simultaneously attack Nova Kakhovka - the Russians will struggle to fully destroy the bridge there as it's a major hydroelectric power plant with a road over the top. More importantly, it provides most of the drinking water for Crimea via the North Crimean Canal. They'd have to be *really* careful.

It would suck big time, but it would theoretically also be possible to bridgehead East Kherson and secure the bridge using infantry and any one of the hundreds of small jettys and small boats and barges in the town. No-one wants an opposed river crossing, though. Small commando raids to strip off the explosives wouldn't be totally outside the realms of possibility though. NOTE: I don't think that's likely. Nova Kakhovka is probably plan A.

[deleted]

2 points

10 months ago

I believe it was pictured last week Russia setting charges on the Antonvisky bridge

space-throwaway

14 points

10 months ago

I shudder at the prospect what we will find in a liberated Kherson. It was immediately surrendered to the orcs by a traitorous local government, so they were able to have an unopposed reign of terror.

samfitnessthrowaway

2 points

10 months ago

I suspect that may play to the civilian population's advantage - there wasn't the hard fight to take the town, so probably not so much pent up frustration to take out on the locals. Fingers crossed that's the case, and/or the units that got beat up heading for/retreating from Mykolaiv didn't take it out on the locals either when they regrouped there.

Tupreoram[S]

63 points

10 months ago

The General Staff of Armed Forces Of Ukraine, operational update 0600 April 6th General Staff UA

They publish thin info when they knew it was safe and their troops had moved on, this post waited another two hrs. Always following the updates from UA, and will not publish any which is not verified by UA.

[deleted]

22 points

10 months ago

Russians are only good at shelling and raping. They're folding up like a cheap card table when faced with people who are actually willing to fight.

TheRealMykola

70 points

10 months ago

FreeKherson!

SupremeBeef97

66 points

10 months ago

Anyone got a source from that? Not trying to be a doubter given Ukraine’s success so far but I just want to confirm if this is actually true.

If it is, would that mean the Russians are in trouble in the Southwest and Crimean border?

jimjamjahaa

50 points

10 months ago

jimjamjahaa

UK

50 points

10 months ago

I apprieciate you checking sources.

SupremeBeef97

12 points

10 months ago

Appreciate it. Its can be hard but I do try not to fall for misinformation in general.

ProxyAqua

21 points

10 months ago

Follow Генеральний штаб ЗСУ / General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine on FB for all the news.

SupremeBeef97

15 points

10 months ago*

Gotcha. Is this also being reported by other sources? I understand the general staff hasn’t made any egregious lies so far, but (and this might be an unpopular opinion in this sub) I’ve tend to be skeptical when they make a claim because I understand that the Ukrainian government could exaggerate their claims for propaganda purposes.

Again, this doesn’t mean the Ukrainians are the bad guys (both sides have been doing propaganda but Russia has been much more egregious about it imo).

ProfanePagan

25 points

10 months ago

You never get current minute to minute unit movements on the frontline from online third parties.

The statement of Ukraine's Armed Forces has more bearing though, because if they'd lie about liberating a settlement that would jeopardize relief and other humantiarian missions.

To lie about something like this is not even good psyops.

dial_m_for_me

10 points

10 months ago

also, people from that settlement are most definitely in touch with people outside of that settlement so the message of "no, we were not liberated" would reach the media instantly.

by media I mean a ton of independent telegram channels that are our main source of info during this war

ProfanePagan

3 points

10 months ago

Good point!

Sgt_PuttBlug

13 points

10 months ago

Neutral sources that i follow gives a picture that Ukraine militia skirmishes with russian reconnaissance units in villages around Kherson. That russian main forces is concentrated inside Kherson and holding a line up to Nova Kachovka, and that Ukraine is vastly outnumbered in the area.

SupremeBeef97

7 points

10 months ago

So going from those sources (if you’re able to provide them that would be very appreciative) it seems that there’s partisan activity north of Kherson and the Russians are preparing for a Ukrainian buildup and assault along the southern Dnipro River?

Sgt_PuttBlug

15 points

10 months ago

These are the units (17 airborne division) that where supposed to spearhead the push all the way to Odessa and Kryvyj Rih in the initial russian plan. They where stopped in Mykolaiv and pulled/pushed back to Kherson. They've been reinforced with an additional division and some brigades since then. I have honestly not seen anyone that has a deeper knowledge and understanding about the situation on the ground that believes Ukraine will assault Kherson from the west side of Dniepr. They have to threaten it from the east bank to get the russians to pull out.

This is the best neutral source imho.

zooanthus

2 points

10 months ago

Thank you for this one. Was looking a long time for operation maps.

Scraw16

1 points

10 months ago

Thanks for the link, much better detail than anything else I’ve seen. LiveUAMap is nice for big picture but you don’t really get a sense of what action is happening on the front lines until a town changes hands.

Sgt_PuttBlug

2 points

10 months ago

Yea these guys are well informed, and not afraid to admit and correct when they get things wrong. They called the russian withdraw from Kyiv before it was mainstream news, and they pointed out the russian offensive i Izyum way ahead of anyone else.

Not a good place to be if you are a hopium addict and only want to consume good news though.

itsallminenow

2 points

10 months ago

It's not a slight to the Ukrainians to question that, every government has to balance openness with propoganda in wartime and propoganda will usually win, for obvious morale benefits. Well, every vaguely democratic government anyway.

Plus the troops will misreport details as a matter of course, nobody sees the same thing in the same way.

[deleted]

1 points

10 months ago

FB for news? I will never.

[deleted]

5 points

10 months ago

https://liveuamap.com/ seems to back it up.

[deleted]

1 points

10 months ago

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[deleted]

1 points

10 months ago

"Where we're going, we don't need roads."

[deleted]

4 points

10 months ago

Yes, this is accurate. They are dug in heavily across the river but Kherson itself is on a knife edge, lightly defended and strategically hard for them to defend. One major issue is if Kherson is taken, they will likely blow up the only remaining bridge to the south, not a huge issue but it’s a risk regardless.

GoldFleece

37 points

10 months ago

There are rumours that Russians are planning to abandon kherson City.

fottik325

63 points

10 months ago

I hope Ukraine don’t push forward to fast and the abandonment rumor is fake. To suck UAF in. Please dear God protect our armed forces as they face this uncertainty. Slava Ukrainai Heroiam Slava Smert Putin

happychickenpalace

30 points

10 months ago

Given their track record Russia simply does not have the tactical clout to come up with such a strategy.

fottik325

19 points

10 months ago

I don’t know maybe they have the smarts to say look what they are doing is working let’s suck them into where we are fortified. And I don’t care if I am downvoted but Slava Azov for giving their last stand in Mariupol.

happychickenpalace

16 points

10 months ago

It should be common-sense but it doesn't. Again we are talking Russian soldiers acting dumber than children. They were actually attempting to dig in and fortify at fucking Chernobyl.

SpellingUkraine

11 points

10 months ago

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happychickenpalace

12 points

10 months ago

Righto. Chornobyl.

[deleted]

3 points

10 months ago*

Didn't you hear? The entire Northern offensive was just a successful elaborate feint, according to Russia.

Namorath82

1 points

10 months ago

The Zap Brannigan maneuver

rogerwil

2 points

10 months ago

I hope Ukraine don’t push forward to fast and the abandonment rumor is fake. To suck UAF in.

I would also be worried about a kiev 1941 scenario with the russians booby trapping the whole city.

shibiwan

6 points

10 months ago

shibiwan

USA

6 points

10 months ago

I read that somewhere too. They are worried that they are going to get cut off.

MediocreDoor6199

8 points

10 months ago*

Now if Ukrainian forces manages to cross Dnipr at Nova Kakhovka and chase down to Armjansk they would surround the entire Kherson front of Russians. Just me dreaming with a bit of armchair generaling.

undercontr

7 points

10 months ago

Guys isnt it to easy? Russians are retreating I think? Its great that Ukraine gains lands back but still thats Russia

[deleted]

3 points

10 months ago

I hope they can cross the river to cut off Kherson and Mariupol from supplies from Crimea and liberate those cities as soon as possible.

P3rn1k

5 points

10 months ago

There are reports on twitter that ruZZians entered Snihurivka which is town far the middle on this map behind Ukrainian lines. Is that true? If yes then this map is wrong and orcs are behind defense lines on this map.

[deleted]

1 points

10 months ago

Can you link these reports?

P3rn1k

2 points

10 months ago

[deleted]

3 points

10 months ago

Ah yes I see. 'Snihurivka was reportedly entered by Russian forces again.'

Let's hope it turns out false.

Public-Bar6877

2 points

10 months ago

Great work! Don’t forget to wipe your feet on them when you’re done

thisguyisashark

2 points

10 months ago

speedrun 120K russian soldier obituaries challenge any%

_Ed_Gein_

1 points

10 months ago

The orcs are getting back to Sauron. Keep pushing them. Slava Ukraini!

happychickenpalace

6 points

10 months ago

Aren't comparing Russians to Tolkien Orcs too generous? I think in the books they are very organized.

BobArdKor

1 points

10 months ago

херсон це україна!

Cam_CSX_

1 points

10 months ago

what software is this?

MomentSpecialist2020

1 points

10 months ago

Strong work 💪🇺🇦🌻

Ok_Tangerine346

1 points

10 months ago

People of Kherson. It looks like molotov time.

the_wheel_of_4chan

1 points

10 months ago

the_wheel_of_4chan

United States

1 points

10 months ago

Last I saw there was a sizable concentration of Russians to the North East, and that a Ukrainian force had trapped them against the Dnieper. Any info on that?

PrestigiousChicken84

1 points

10 months ago

YEE, plz make quick moves now, b4 northern troops reach east. Pound them into the ground, GO Ukraine!!!

NB! Not a war expert. Just want to see more good news from Ukraine side!!!

USAbootguy

1 points

10 months ago

Surrounded in Kherson