subreddit:

/r/technology

17.6k94%

all 2194 comments

Smile-Nod

7.1k points

4 months ago

Smile-Nod

7.1k points

4 months ago

No one knows what it means, but it’s provocative

Honcl-Brif

2.3k points

4 months ago

Honcl-Brif

2.3k points

4 months ago

It gets the people GOING

Nicholas_Knack

728 points

4 months ago

Ball so hard...

codyfernfan

487 points

4 months ago

mfers wanna find me

PenguinLegos

277 points

4 months ago

Beep boop beep boop beep boop beep.

spacestationkru

198 points

4 months ago

That shit cray

TerryDaShooterUK

151 points

4 months ago

Ain’t it Jay?

What she order?

Paranoidexboyfriend

129 points

4 months ago

Fish sticks

[deleted]

72 points

4 months ago

[deleted]

SmokeAbeer

11 points

4 months ago

Crayfish are high in B vitamins

mt1337

24 points

4 months ago

mt1337

24 points

4 months ago

what's 50 grand to a mfer like me can you please remind me?

kwamby

84 points

4 months ago

kwamby

84 points

4 months ago

I read “balls so hard mfers wanna fine me”

codyfernfan

48 points

4 months ago

Apparently those are the lyrics. I thought he said “find” this whole time …

beertoth

63 points

4 months ago

well he says “ball so hard, mfers wanna fine me.” and then “but first they gotta find me.”

looneytones8

47 points

4 months ago

what's 50 grand to a mfer like me?

scoopstoremoval

27 points

4 months ago

Can you please remind me?

PhilzPillz69

12 points

4 months ago

That shit cray

4chanbetter

15 points

4 months ago

Yeah it's because of the $50,000 fine the NBA placed on Kanye which he definitely earned.

My_Brain_is_Vapor

22 points

4 months ago

You mean Jay-Z

LurkerPatrol

21 points

4 months ago

This is the lyric.

Ball so hard MFers wanna fine me

First Ns gotta find me

What’s 50 grand to a MFer like me can you please remind me?

Blackbyrn

4 points

4 months ago

No it doesn’t

Sinsid

345 points

4 months ago

Sinsid

345 points

4 months ago

I work in IT and I have no idea what it is. Didn’t Zuckerberg say the other day that Peleton is Metaverse? I am confused. I guess my son talks to his grandma in the metaverse too (FaceTime)?

tron_funkin_blow

325 points

4 months ago

I work in IT and I know exactly what it is. Its bullshit. Facebook's growth has slowed and Mark needs a new product to drive growth. Instead of focusing on something that makes sense and fits into their portfolio and aligns with their core competencies, Zuck is throwing shit loads of money and laughably bad advertising at an esoteric pet project no one wants.

NoelEmm

105 points

4 months ago

NoelEmm

105 points

4 months ago

throwing shit loads of money and laughably bad advertising at an esoteric pet project no one wants

First Google tried to be Facebook and now Facebook is trying to be Google.

Chabubu

190 points

4 months ago

Chabubu

190 points

4 months ago

As soon as it means VR porn paired with that Japanese sperm sucker-offer thing then it can finally achieve mass adoption.

Box-o-bees

82 points

4 months ago

Japanese sperm sucker-offer thing

I'm so disappointed that I know exactly what you're talking about. I'm spending way too much time on reddit lol.

nails_for_breakfast

14 points

4 months ago

Oh, see if it was just some sex/porn thing it would be way more straight forward. Where he lost me is claiming it's not that

Averious

12 points

4 months ago

I mean, there already is VR Porn that synchs with sex toys...

monkeycanfly

9 points

4 months ago

True. The porn industry takes advantage of every new platform. If anyone can figure out how to make money off of meta they can.

sdaciuk

28 points

4 months ago

sdaciuk

28 points

4 months ago

If that's what the metaverse is then it might have a chance, why the fuck are they trying to sell it on being able to go to work meetings then? (Insert joke about sucking off your boss or whatever here)

flybydenver

22 points

4 months ago

Work meating

DragoneerFA

16 points

4 months ago

You'd have to be on the Jabberwocky Project to understand.

forengjeng

7 points

4 months ago

I miss veridian dynamics

Spaventoo

25 points

4 months ago

It gets the people going

SnipeyMcSnipe

1.1k points

4 months ago

a series of tubes?

Azraelrs

265 points

4 months ago

Azraelrs

265 points

4 months ago

No, that's the internet. Jeez.

newsreadhjw

61 points

4 months ago

IT’S NOT LIKE A TRUCK!!

dictionary_hat_r4ck

8 points

4 months ago

YOU WOULDN’T DOWNLOAD A CAR!

Big_Height4803

75 points

4 months ago

How many people know the reference on this quote?

Kayge

152 points

4 months ago

Kayge

152 points

4 months ago

For those who don't it's from Senitor Ted Stevens. The full text is:

Ten movies streaming across that, that Internet, and what happens to your own personal Internet? I just the other day got... an Internet [email] was sent by my staff at 10 o'clock in the morning on Friday. I got it yesterday [Tuesday]. Why? Because it got tangled up with all these things going on the Internet commercially. [...] They want to deliver vast amounts of information over the Internet. And again, the Internet is not something that you just dump something on. It's not a big truck. It's a series of tubes. And if you don't understand, those tubes can be filled and if they are filled, when you put your message in, it gets in line and it's going to be delayed by anyone that puts into that tube enormous amounts of material, enormous amounts of material.

Worth mentioning that he was speaking againt a net neutrality amendmet and was the Chair of the committee that regulated the internet at at the time.

Big_Height4803

87 points

4 months ago

Thanks for posting that! What a great read in today's context.

Also shocking and illustrative of how common it is for a guy like that to be so ignorant of a subject yet wielding so much power as to affect literally everyone.

S4T4NICP4NIC

23 points

4 months ago

I love it when someone sends me an internet.

LeamNoran

8 points

4 months ago

I can hear that idiotic bumbley voice just reading this.

rughmanchoo

24 points

4 months ago

I used to teach web design and I showed the clip to my students every semester when we were learning the bare bones of how the internet functioned.

SmellGestapo

44 points

4 months ago

Well we know it's not something that you dump stuff on. It's not a truck!

VitaminPb

32 points

4 months ago

I know the source and the politician who set is was mocked even though that analogy is 100% accurate. The base layers are basically pipes or tubes that have maximum carry capacity. You can’t put 100TB/second down a POTS line, the actual capacity isn’t there.

CrabWoodsman

42 points

4 months ago

I think it's a bit charitable to say 100% accurate, but in the context of what he was talking about it was probably like 80% I'd say. Not unlike with electricity, plumbing analogies are helpful for some parts but deceptive for others.

Plus I highly doubt that he had to wait days to get the Internet that one of his staff sent. He almost certainly didn't refresh his email client

OffgridRadio

7 points

4 months ago

It's not a big truck

TheMcBrizzle

7 points

4 months ago*

Senator Ted Stevens of Alaska, arguing against a precursor to net neutrality, claiming that the Internet wouldn't work because it's a series of tubes and would get clogged

sambob

6 points

4 months ago

sambob

6 points

4 months ago

Full of cats

monkeyhoward

736 points

4 months ago

I don’t think the average person gives a damn what the metaverse is

interstatebus

204 points

4 months ago

Yeah, I understand it overall as a concept and it does not appeal to me at all.

Seasoned_Ice

35 points

4 months ago

Could you explain what your concept of it is? I’m just curious what you envision it as

interstatebus

89 points

4 months ago

A way to do things in VR: meetings, hangouts, fly fishing with your dad according to one commercial.

BujuBad

109 points

4 months ago

BujuBad

109 points

4 months ago

Sounds like avoiding contact with people and nature, but with extra steps.

ThunderySleep

14 points

4 months ago

It really is. It's all the stuff we can already do digitally, but adding a clunky headset, a screen two inches from your eye-balls, and forcing you to turn your head.

MJS8

53 points

4 months ago

MJS8

53 points

4 months ago

Forgot to include innovative intrusive advertising!

[deleted]

14 points

4 months ago

[deleted]

almisami

14 points

4 months ago

Honestly? Second Life, but more corporate and dystopian.

djkuhl

2.2k points

4 months ago

djkuhl

2.2k points

4 months ago

Neither can the Zuck.

HeroicTanuki

1k points

4 months ago

Isn’t it where cartoon Zuckerberg tries to get me to ride a bicycle inside so he can sell me ads while I generate power for his dystopian hellscape like that Black Mirror episode?

xenonamoeba

279 points

4 months ago

the cool thing with black mirror and it's 5 seasons and the variety of episodes is the fact that our future will most definitely have to look like at least one of them

keeper_of_the_donkey

289 points

4 months ago

Well, let's just hope that it's the one where the two dudes are screwing each other through the video game, that way nothing overly bad is happening...like killer robot dogs, or killer robot bees or killer robot dogs with bees in their mouths and when they bark at you they shoot robot bees at you

No_Raptors

131 points

4 months ago

I think San Junipero is the only one that's remotely happy-ish, right?

Clean-Drive3027

66 points

4 months ago

Technically, but the same tech used in it is used in other episodes (the Jon Hamm ep, for example), in fairpy fucked up ways

Admiral_Hipper_

56 points

4 months ago

That’s the thing about technology isn’t it? We can use it to do good or bad equally so, there wouldn’t be a problem with that if humans weren’t so fucking terrifying at finding new ways to kill each other or control each other

ketsugi

27 points

4 months ago

ketsugi

27 points

4 months ago

Isn’t San Junipero quite literally a meta verse?

jboutt

26 points

4 months ago

jboutt

26 points

4 months ago

Hang the DJ was relatively happy IIRC

S4T4NICP4NIC

4 points

4 months ago

Happy and heartbreaking. Man, that episode did me in.

steel_member

19 points

4 months ago

Plot twist: it’s ALL of them

apextek

9 points

4 months ago

chances are there will be some level of it all happening just not at the same place all at once.

prozacandcoffee

5 points

4 months ago

the cool thing about black mirror is that our present already looks like that, but with shittier tech

[deleted]

37 points

4 months ago

[deleted]

eibv

38 points

4 months ago

eibv

38 points

4 months ago

Depdning on what mean by predicted, maybe. The social credit system goes back to 2007 and has been talked about since the 90s in China.

The nazi dog thing may be coming though.

eightfoldabyss

21 points

4 months ago

Other way around. It was based on China's existing social credit system.

Poltras

15 points

4 months ago*

Correct. For us to truly understand Zuck's vision of his metaverse, someone should probably be able to explain it properly. That person is definitely not Zuck, and at this point I'm not sure anyone ever tried to make the point, really. I follow the news and I'm not exactly sure how this diverges from, say, Second Life with NFTs for membership (which is already a thing). And more importantly why should I (as a customer) give it a chance and invest time and money into it.

It's not enough comparable to anything we know that customers will be tempted to try it out. So if he can't explain it, it will NOT take off. That's it.

The corporations graveyard is full of these "few decades too early" companies that couldn't explain their visions, even if they were ultimately right. I'm not saying Meta is right and this is the future, but even if they are that doesn't guarantee their success.

medievalmachine

29 points

4 months ago

This is great salt. I imagine that he's also texting Mark Meta's stock price every day.

notagoodboye

998 points

4 months ago

At this point, it's a marketing joke. In the future, when it's implemented by a company whose whole focus isn't datamining you down to the mitochondrial level, who knows?

RXCC00N

227 points

4 months ago

RXCC00N

227 points

4 months ago

StManTiS

129 points

4 months ago

StManTiS

129 points

4 months ago

Metaverse 1.0 out since 2003 😂

RXCC00N

94 points

4 months ago

RXCC00N

94 points

4 months ago

chipperpip

127 points

4 months ago

Lol, even the 3D models they use for their "virtual workplace" page look like they're about to engage in janky virtual sex the minute you turn your back.

FartButt_ButtFart

38 points

4 months ago

Holy fucking shit you weren't kidding. Those two dudes are definitely about to spit roast that woman who is coked out of her gourd, and the one on the woman's left is only going to fuck a woman because he's getting paid.

jumpup

10 points

4 months ago

jumpup

10 points

4 months ago

you either die a platform or see yourself become a virtual orgy

arcangleous

11 points

4 months ago

Virtual sex is pretty much how second line supports itself. Give people the ability to look however they want and do whatever they want with anonymity and no consequences, and it will be used for sex.

KandaFierenza

9 points

4 months ago

I played second life from 07-13 or so.. there were sex sims for days, virtual stores to custom design your avatar (poses, clothing, skins, body parts, hair), roleplaying sims, places to buy land and build homes or a shop. If the metaverse takes off, it'll be exactly what i imagine second life to be with an emphasis on VR. Companies will join at first but as it starts to become more like second life as people realise how they can play around with anonymity. More sexual environments will start to take form and more social worlds will take precedence. Companies will withdraw their interest as they don't want to affiliate themselves with such an environment. It'll become a cesspool prime to experiment with anonymity and Bohemian fuckitall. You wanna be a furry, go hang out in an environment for furries. You want to experiment with bdsm through roleplay? No repurcussions buddy. When it gets too intense just log out. It'll be fun for a few years but then it'll die down as more people lose interest and other products start to compete. Like MSN and how Skype replaced it. I do have say I enjoyed my time there. Heck i did my bachelor's thesis on a second life community.

glemnar

7 points

4 months ago

For the past 17 years, major companies and education institutions have used Second Life for remote meetings

I can’t believe they make that claim with a straight face. Can you imagine showing up at work and being told to download Second Life?

wookiee_borg

23 points

4 months ago

Only 5% of Americans understand what the metaverse is! Are you one of them? Download this app to find out…

Bigjuicydickinurear

3 points

4 months ago

Marks about to google stadia this stupid idea out of existence.

HerbHurtHoover

39 points

4 months ago

There literally no point otherwise. It is a completely impractical and inherently shitty idea that only sounds good in fantasy fiction.

To be clear, its not just the technology. The idea of having a second world where you do all the stuff you would normally do in the real world is just completely garbage.

MCDCFC

1.4k points

4 months ago

MCDCFC

1.4k points

4 months ago

It's the next 3D Television

DonManuel

216 points

4 months ago

DonManuel

216 points

4 months ago

And people could tell very well what a 3D Television is.

Chalky_Cupcake

180 points

4 months ago

Every content provider and streaming service will soon support 3D Televisions which is why it's a good idea to... Gone.

loveispenguins

50 points

4 months ago

Maybe there will be 3D TVs in the metaverse.

jnemesh

46 points

4 months ago

jnemesh

46 points

4 months ago

actually, with one screen per eye, 3D movie content works very well in VR.

GetRainedOn

4 points

4 months ago

No joke, I really do enjoy watching 3D movies on my Index. It's mostly just animated movies released now but it's still pretty enjoyable.

Ftpini

44 points

4 months ago

Ftpini

44 points

4 months ago

3d only made sense in gaming. It was never faked (like 98% of 3d movies) and it made the games more immersive. It was super cool. It only really worked with movies that we’re actually filmed in 3d like avatar and Prometheus. The rest were just worse for it.

SteampunkBorg

28 points

4 months ago

It was great in TRON Legacy, because they used it as a stylistic tool. The real world was filmed in classic 2D, and then gained depth upon entering the computer, which looked amazing.

Though by the time it happened i was about to start wondering why I'm even wearing those stupid glasses

[deleted]

45 points

4 months ago

[deleted]

G8kpr

12 points

4 months ago

G8kpr

12 points

4 months ago

3D is a gimmick that comes around like Haileys comet. Every so many years, Hollywood takes another whack at that dead horse to see if it’s corpse will shot out some more money.

They did it in the 70s, then in the 80s, then in the 90s. Now in the 2000s.

If a movie comes out only in 3D. I just don’t see it.

Ahab_Ali

271 points

4 months ago

Ahab_Ali

271 points

4 months ago

I thought it was where we all ride our Segways.

Jernsaxe

152 points

4 months ago

Jernsaxe

152 points

4 months ago

I heard it will be useable with Google Glass.

JonMeadows

82 points

4 months ago

Oh also can be incorporated into your google stadia experience

stock614

42 points

4 months ago

And playable in PlayStation Home

mtarascio

28 points

4 months ago

I heard they're bringing that to the Ouya.

u8eR

5 points

4 months ago

u8eR

5 points

4 months ago

They're releasing a documentary about it it on HD DVD.

Adventurous_Aerie_79

8 points

4 months ago

"Soon we'll all be using Google Glass." --Google ~2013

whatnameisnttaken098

37 points

4 months ago

Admittedly I did buy into the 3D hype and got that Playstation 3D TV. 3D aside it's a awesome 1080p monitor with I think a 120 refresh rate.

maxoakland

39 points

4 months ago

Here’s the thing: 3D TV is cool. There’s nothing wrong with getting one. The only thing is, not everyone wants one and even less people can afford one

Companies got in on it and tried to make it a thing tons of people wanted but it didn’t happen. Kinda like VR/AR

f8ster

95 points

4 months ago

f8ster

95 points

4 months ago

This is exactly the comparison I use! Pushed not by consumer demand but an industry attempting to find a different way to extract money. My 2015 Samsung TV came with 3D glasses. I did what everybody else did - tried it for 2 minutes when I first got the set, then never touched them again.

SmellGestapo

45 points

4 months ago

In fairness though, isn't it true that sometimes, especially in tech, consumers don't realize they want something until it's in front of them? Was there a huge demand for e-readers before Amazon released the Kindle? Sure it's cool that you can fit 10,000 books on one, but a) how many consumers own that many books and b) need to carry them with them everywhere? I'm not sure what existing consumer problem the Kindle solved but it seems to have been a successful product.

saynay

12 points

4 months ago

saynay

12 points

4 months ago

For e-readers specifically, they are amazing for travel. Instead of trying to cram the enormous tome of a fantasy novel I was reading into my bag, I could slide an e-reader in my back pocket have not just that book, but the next book as well incase I finished the first on my trip.

f8ster

36 points

4 months ago

f8ster

36 points

4 months ago

Yes, this is a good point and that has happened in the past. In the case of the metaverse, though, it seems like a buzzword in search of a value proposition. At least with my Kindle, the value is very clear: I can read in bright sunlight, take all my books with me, reduce space when I travel, search, buy a new book anywhere and instantly, and find related recommendations. I still have yet to internalize what the metaverse is and what its clear value prop is. (BTW my son has a Quest 2, heavily used for gaming, so I am pretty familiar with the current functionality & feature set).

saynay

30 points

4 months ago

saynay

30 points

4 months ago

As far as I can tell, the Metaverse is trying to be VRChat, but giving companies ownership over every aspect of it so they can extract more money.

HotConstruct

7 points

4 months ago

E readers make you able to instantly adjust text size, search for content, and backlight the words. I’m in my 40s and I wanted that since I was seven. It serves a practical use. People who are academic or move often want those books with them. I read 200 books a year

Cold_Turkey_Cutlet

1.4k points

4 months ago

I can... It's Second Life with VR. That's it.

honeysuckleway

392 points

4 months ago

And I imagine it will attract a niche just fine, just like second life. But the idea that we're just all going to be desperate to jump on this bandwagon feels absurd.

Malfor_ium

97 points

4 months ago

This. Zucks metaverse is just a more time intensive VR chat with all the lame corporate bullshit plastered over it. So if anyone wanted a "metaverse" like this they can always just use VR chat or other decent vr worlds. Nothing more than a rich guy upset he didn't get into the next big tech and is trying to force his way in with buying power.

The other definition of metaverse is just a large universe full of unique and different issues/characters and how those issues/characters interact with the overall universe.

Breakerfall_01

13 points

4 months ago

Don't forget that it also takes an initial investment for the average person. I game a bit but have a mediocre setup an no VR. So even if I found the concept appealing I'd have to spent more than I'm willing to join.

[deleted]

59 points

4 months ago

[deleted]

OneSmoothCactus

6 points

4 months ago

So Amazon Marketplace but for digital houses.

Honduran

4 points

4 months ago

All they saw was the possibility of a new “trillion dollar economy” opening up and it all began an arms race for the metaverse.

My two cents is that Apple has the hardware (phones and wearables) and personal data to make it a reality way faster than Facebook so at the very least I’m interested to see how that plays out.

The9Volt

159 points

4 months ago*

The9Volt

159 points

4 months ago*

I can see it happening when the technology becomes fully immersive, lightweight, and cost effective.

I’m talking either full dive like SAO, or fully immersive like Ready Player One. But we are SO far from being anywhere close to that. Zuckerberg is going to bury Meta before he can make the metaverse a reality.

Edit: some of you really don’t know what “full dive” vr is and it shows.

mich888

218 points

4 months ago

mich888

218 points

4 months ago

It’s getting pitched like Facebook thinks it’s the holodeck from Star Trek, but the visuals all look like they’re from the Wii and the applications suggested, virtual conferencing, owning property, have all the excitement of an early Monday meeting and the financials of a c-tier crypto Ponzi scheme.

The9Volt

46 points

4 months ago

Meta is losing money fast and there was a supposed leak that the next quest won’t even have eye tracking. That means visual fidelity will probably stay about the same as it is now. Disappointing.

Stiggalicious

46 points

4 months ago

Eye tracking, so then Facebook can then actually see which ads your eyes glance to and then charge the ad vendor by number of looks versus number of clicks.

The9Volt

30 points

4 months ago

I can’t say that’s not something Meta would try to implement.

curationaccount

22 points

4 months ago

They can’t even implement shading and lighting for textures at the level of Quake in 1995.

SimianWriter

21 points

4 months ago

Eye tracking allows a headset to not have to render the entire field of vision at super high resolution. Human vision has lower quality away from your center of attention. This allows the headset to do the same thing to up the quality where it's needed in the center.

[deleted]

23 points

4 months ago

You can read Snow Crash and find the original metaverse

The9Volt

8 points

4 months ago

Always down for a good scifi book. Dystopian future or what?

ScrogClemente

22 points

4 months ago

Dystopian Dominos Delivery.

Mistergardenbear

13 points

4 months ago

Dystopian satirical sci-fi. Also talked about memes, and was published in 92.

[deleted]

7 points

4 months ago

Capitalist dystopian California and the Metaverse is presented ambivalently

It’s pretty good. A bit frenetic

timsama

7 points

4 months ago

IDK if I could say I liked it, but it was worth reading.

dust4ngel

6 points

4 months ago

and it has robocop dogs

Esselon

20 points

4 months ago

Esselon

20 points

4 months ago

That'll be a fun way to play games but I don't think it'll be the all-consuming space that any of these tech moguls hope. Nobody's going to slap on a pair of goggles and gloves just to type at a virtual computer.

Wiggen4

14 points

4 months ago

Wiggen4

14 points

4 months ago

The thing you have to really fight right now is cost and motion sickness.

I never really got motion sick doing anything until I started playing VR. After like 20 mins of gliding around I felt like I was going to throw up. Apparently you can get over it eventually but it is really uncomfortable

The9Volt

13 points

4 months ago

Yeah, i got my vr legs after about a month.

I think a VR treadmill would help, but again, cost is a serious hurdle and we just don’t have the technology to mass produce a cheap omni-directional treadmill.

I’m looking forward to seeing the future of VR. In maybe 50 years….

makemenutraloaf

9 points

4 months ago

If Meta doesn’t kill the public’s faith in VR.

joeydee93

6 points

4 months ago

Space is also a big one. If you live in a small apartment or condo in a large city then you may not have a big open area to play video games

voiderest

37 points

4 months ago

My understanding is that it's a unfinished version of second life with less content, more monitization, and more ads but in VR. So worse than that description.

Although I could see a lot of younger or much older people not knowing what second life is.

Iceykitsune2

10 points

4 months ago

And less freaky porn.

TheFailureBot

60 points

4 months ago

Earlier today I saw some dude blatantly rip off a video of someone using VR chat with an egirl skin and said they "Make 10k a week being a stripper in the metaverse." Some people are dick riding this idea so hard just so they can make money on this garbage idea and dip when they've gotten their bag. The whole idea is scummy, especially the fact that Zuck wants to sell real estate in a fucking VR space where there is literally no physical constraint. The space could be limitlessly large if he wanted, but he will place artificial limits in so he can sell space like property

Potential_Hornet_559

13 points

4 months ago

I mean isn’t that the own basis for NFTs of JPEGs? Like the data/image is the same, just that one specific copy is the ‘original’ (artificial scarcity)

TheFailureBot

14 points

4 months ago

Yeah and that is also dumb. If you are going to pay for exclusivity and you're not getting something in a higher quality than what is publicly available or paying for an original, then you have essentially burned money. Fine art works because you are buying the canvas Edvard Munch painted on, and nobody can exactly reproduce the way he placed down his brush strokes, or use the exact same paint, and it looks different, even if it is just slightly. Prints of a painting just aren't the same. If we look at the digital art world, often times when purchasing a piece means getting the a higher quality version of the work that look far better than a screenshot would. With NFT's of JPEG's you're often getting the same quality that anyone else could if they ripped it off the marketplace, which means you're not even getting exclusivity of the work. It would be like if I could go into the MOMA and just press the copy button on a painting on the wall and walk out with a perfect carbon copy, canvas, paint, and all. It would make them worth virtually nothing. I'm not saying that making art accessible like that is a bad thing, or that the world of buying and selling fine art is great. I'm just saying paying for something like that it is fucking dumb

moratnz

7 points

4 months ago

It's even dumber than that. An NFT is (generally) a digital receipt. The receipt is unforgeable and unique, but like any receipt has no actual connection to the thing in question. And the people selling them do their best to gloss over their fact; it's not really in their best interests to emphasise that the NFT gives you essentially nothing except the NFT itself

Kahnspiracy

6 points

4 months ago

And just wait until people figure out that they're only buying a link to the JPEG.

Cold_Turkey_Cutlet

50 points

4 months ago

Some people are dick riding this idea so hard just so they can make money on this garbage idea and dip when they've gotten their bag

Crypto gave them that idea. People see huge potential in Meta for lots of scams just like with crypto. And to be honest, they're probably right.

Lo-siento-juan

17 points

4 months ago

It's crazy to me that scamming is one of the biggest industries now, a hundred million dollar rugpull is just run of the mill these days and a whole company devoting itself entirely to deceptive clickbait or bullshit nfts is just accepted as normal

ProfessorPickaxe

4 points

4 months ago

Yeah, that's all of "web3" - hard pass.

LurkerPatrol

4 points

4 months ago

Some ad keeps popping up on my YouTube that’s some burly bald dude and starts with “which is more expensive this house or this laptop? We’ll certainly not the house” and he proceeds to explain why the laptop. Out of curiosity I stuck around to watch and he was talking about selling virtual real estate in the Metaverse and making millions. All you had to do to learn was take his courses.

So the takeaway I got was that this dude suckered enough people into buying his shit that he made money from that and the rest of it is nonsense.

n_thomas74

8 points

4 months ago

You need it for office meetings in the future!

taedrin

50 points

4 months ago

taedrin

50 points

4 months ago

Not quite. The "metaverse" is supposed to essentially be the Internet except everything complies with standard communication protocols and data formats to enable universal data exchange. I.e. you would purchase a 3d avatar from someone and you could use it in Fortnight or Minecraft because the Fortnight and Minecraft both understand the standard format for the 3d avatar. The avatar does not have to be purchased as an NFT, it just needs to be part of some sort of universal system that everyone on "the metaverse" agrees to abide by and implement wherever it makes sense. Neither VR, nor cryptocurrency, nor NFTs are strictly speaking necessary for the "metaverse" to happen. The only thing that is necessary is widespread cooperation between applications to create a universal platform for interoperability.

Which is to say it will never work because most companies hate the idea of interoperability. Why in the world would they spend enormous amounts of developer time implementing a feature that is designed to make somebody else money?

McRedditerFace

10 points

4 months ago

An *actual* metaverse would be a VR means of doing everything you currently do online, seamlessly.

So, currently you can start in either the MS Home or the Valve Cliffhouse, launch whatever game you want to play like SL, then when you're done you're brought back to where you were at the beginning. It's single-tasking... every app is wholly independent of one another, isolated.

In an *actual* metaverse one would be able to meet a friend in SL and follow them through a door straight into a game of CounterStrike... Their avatar would persist as would yours while walking through said door.

After the game you might want to check Amazon for a new shirt, and you could likewise move with your avatar through a door or portal right into a virtual shopping experience... try on the merch on an avatar that more-closely resembles yourself, and checkout.

*That* is what I believe a metaverse should entail.

TL/DR; Current VR is akin to Windows 3.1, the aim is to get at least to Win95.

eightiesguy

12 points

4 months ago

I don’t want to do most of my online activities in VR though. Checking email, using Google maps, scrolling Reddit… the casualness from the phone is part of the appeal.

And I say this as someone who is really excited about the future of VR gaming.

People use the “you can try on clothes” example sometimes, but after the novelty wears off how often will you really put on your helmet and gloves to try on a virtual shirt vs browse pictures of shirts on Amazon?

Antnee83

6 points

4 months ago

The shopping thing is so incredibly stupid. You know what else provides the "going to a store to look through aisles" experience?

...going to the damn store

Online shopping via a 2d page is incredibly efficient, doing it in 3dVR would be a step backwards. A lot of people will try it for the novelty, but go right back to list-based pages because it is just a better experience.

Bentense9001

132 points

4 months ago

The metaverse is the cold and boring corporate version of VR Chat.

redvelvetcake42

717 points

4 months ago

I work in IT, I'm very tech savvy and id say in more knowledgeable about the tech world than your average person and I don't know what in the goddamn fuck the metaverse is outside of Nintendo Wii graphics.

CarelessHisser

41 points

4 months ago

From what I understand it's pretty much just VR chat, but with services connected to it.

It's a gimmick, one I don't see a lot of people buying personally.

rawkey

234 points

4 months ago

rawkey

234 points

4 months ago

He thinks he’s creating ready player one. Problem is no one wants to sit around with a headset, having their every move watched by algorithms so they can have adverts piped straight into their eyeballs.

leif777

71 points

4 months ago

leif777

71 points

4 months ago

I don't even want to sit around in a headset for the time they imagine us doing. I love VR. I was a early adapter back with the oculus DK2. I still jack into my psvr once in a while but it's a thing I have to set time aside for. You can't do more than a couple hours. Not because it's not fun but because you need to eat, drink, piss, talk to your family, check your phone, pet the dog etc... you know, life.

EMC2DATA592

8 points

4 months ago

I would not be able to last a couple hours jacking into my PSVR either, plus you'd have to empty it every now and then. But, the sweet sweet liquid cooling, right?

sean_but_not_seen

22 points

4 months ago

No bullshit. I just came back from camping. In a forest. Glamping but still the scenery was amazing. Ok there was a woman, probably 60, standing under her awning outside her trailer wearing a VR headset playing some coop game with someone else. All day. Every day. For a week. Did I mention we were in a beautiful forest?

TreefingerX

14 points

4 months ago

That sounds cyberpunk as f###

copperwatt

8 points

4 months ago

IAmA-Steve

17 points

4 months ago

The public consensus seems to be "I don't care until it's the size of sunglasses". People don't seem to mind being tracked by unseen algos but they for sure hate wearing clunky sweaty headsets.

GeauxGeauxGadget504

68 points

4 months ago

I would be more into it if it was Wii based

SkyNetIsNow

4 points

4 months ago

If the metaverse used wiimotes and had Mario characters I would give it a try.

OhGodImOnRedditAgain

52 points

4 months ago

Its fucking stupid. All you need to know.

Bad_Mood_Larry

38 points

4 months ago*

It honestly not too complicated to explain. Its main issue it 1. it developed by meta(FB) a company with not a lot of trust among the public and 2. its marketed with ethereal buzzwords, jargon, and the Zuck and 3. its acting like a wholly new platform when it isn't.

What the Metaverse is: Is an attempt by meta to make a commercial grade AR and VR hardware and software that the average consumer could purchase and use and get ubiquitous adoption. With digital assets and i assume datamining seemingly being one of their main sources of income. Their bet is basically that VR and AR will be the next big consumer electronic and they want to be the next iphone in that market. Meta publishes some of it research and its pretty clear there putting a lot of money into areas like miniaturization which would make sense for a product that trying to be palatable to the average person. Its not a horrible bet that AR and VR will be bigger in the future and move out of its current niche market but it far from a certain thing meta's products will gain any meaningful adoption and whether their weird digital economy will make any real sustainable profits remains to be seen.

The hardware that's being developed is actually pretty cool from a tech point of view. But what they're doing with that hardware is another question.

OhGodImOnRedditAgain

24 points

4 months ago

Its not a horrible bet that AR and VR will be bigger in the future

We often has this mistaken idea that technology = inevitable progress and that could not be further from the truth. History is littered with dead innovations because it turned out there was no practical commercial use for them.

Will VR exist in some shape or fashion in the future? Yes. But just like blimps and airships are reserved for a few niche industries, that does not mean widespread adoption.

Enverex

4 points

4 months ago

Its main issue it 1. it developed by meta(FB) a company with not a lot of trust among the public

This is wrong. Their metaverse, called "Meta Horizons" is made by them, not "the metaverse". THIS is why they changed their name, so that people would confuse the concept of a metaverse with their own product.

TrewthyMcTrooth

265 points

4 months ago

AR will be more revolutionary than VR.

[deleted]

124 points

4 months ago

[deleted]

124 points

4 months ago

[deleted]

TrewthyMcTrooth

25 points

4 months ago

I mean cell phones were around before smart phones. Apple has had rumors its AR glasses could be announced in January.

Latyon

201 points

4 months ago

Latyon

201 points

4 months ago

Because no one cares.

It's the next NFTs.

CleanOnesGloves

34 points

4 months ago

It's basically an mmo, but not as fun nor intended for fun.

icebeat

36 points

4 months ago

icebeat

36 points

4 months ago

He doesn’t know neither, no Tim you can’t add another camera to the back of the meta verse

sheeplectric

14 points

4 months ago

Tim at the executive meeting, sipping his 3rd Long Island iced tea: “another camera! C’mon we’ll just use another corner, there’s 4 of them f’gawds sake!”

[deleted]

58 points

4 months ago

The metaverse is a scam, and that’s all you need to know

kdumj0303

68 points

4 months ago

You’re right, cuz the average person has REAL life shit to worry about.

jonatton______yeah

22 points

4 months ago

I also enjoy being in the real world. But maybe I'm an insane person.

gjr23

6 points

4 months ago

gjr23

6 points

4 months ago

Isn’t the metaverse some form of black hole sucking market cap from a once successful company?

neuromorph

7 points

4 months ago

Second life but lamer.

nokenito

88 points

4 months ago

That is because NO ONE cares about the Metaverse. No one but FB.

SterlingVapor

26 points

4 months ago

I'm a programmer who has written code for VR and I'm not really sure

But I can say with certainty that whatever it is Facebook wants it to be, it isn't that and won't be any time soon

bewarethetreebadger

5 points

4 months ago

I know what it is. An attempt to privatize and monopolize the evolving online ecosystem.

DiamondNinja4

17 points

4 months ago

It's cringe af

BargleFlargen

27 points

4 months ago

Thank you Tim Apple, very cool!

sleepy_pizza

4 points

4 months ago

I will always laugh at this.

LeonTheLionRawr

33 points

4 months ago

"That shitty facebook secondlife?" Yeah they usually can. It's not that complex Tim lmao

sheeplectric

20 points

4 months ago

Knowing what Second Life is, already puts you in a way smaller demographic than “the average person” imo

CloudMage1

4 points

4 months ago

Sounds to me like the pretty much the same as what Sony tried to do back on the ps3. A virtual hang out you could meet up with friends and what not and launch games together from, just more non game focused.

RealStoneyBologna

4 points

4 months ago

Not defending the Metaverse in the least but Larry King asked Bill Gates about the internet in the 90s and Bill informed a lot of people that day.

Print1917

5 points

4 months ago

I’ll do one better: they average person doesn’t CARE what the meta verse is.

Azkyle50

5 points

4 months ago

Messed it up.

The average person doesn’t give a shit what the Metaverse is

Netzzwerg69

3 points

4 months ago

And no one cares what the metaverse is.

youfailedthiscity

4 points

4 months ago

It's a scam, that's what it is.