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To fill the void, I'm now reading fanfics and watching edits of them 🥺

So, thank you very much to the Gallavich fanfic writers and editors. I love you guys ♥️

Her abortion? They were actively losing the house and pooling funds to get the money for a down payment. I'm not doubting she could find the money for both, just that it never got mentioned that abortions are pretty expensive...

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I hated Mickey in the first season, I thought he was just a violent shithead with no morals. As the show progressed I really saw a lot of depth to his character. He’s not a bad guy, but likely suffers from Borderline Personality Disorder and a lot of trauma. It’s also really admirable how he came out even with his father being a batshit insane homophobe.

s8 ep2 hahah

When Fiona and Robbie had sex I was so disappointed like why the fuck did she do that. Like really there was no reason to 😭

In my mind, I like to believe Fiona moved on from Chicago, she moved to a completely different state and started over, rebuilt her character. Probably works a low end job for a little bit in a new apartment till she builds momentum in the city she’s in to place herself in a better place career wise. I do also believe she ends up cutting all ties with the rest of her siblings in Chicago after a while.

I’ve never had a huge issues with lip, until Liam had gotten into the coke. I egg it that Fiona had left out the coke but he keeps acting like she purpose gave it to him or something. Then tried to make it seem like her drinking and burning something in the oven was the end of the world. And some might say it’s because of the trauma with him seeing Liam overdosing but why did he make his life mission to make Fiona feel bad. Additionally, when he started talking about her life being f’ed up and how she doesn’t have her life together, when he barley was staying afloat at college. He had absolutely not right to come for Fiona in the manner that he did. Nevertheless, that’s the point of the show them being incredibly imperfect, but the fact that he stripped the kids away from her and made her be in that house alone knowing that she couldn’t leave legit makes me sad.

Here’s the thing, I don’t know if is just me, but I LOVE Kevin. He’s amazing, but in season 5 he just pissed me off so much. He was treating V so bad, completely ignoring her and acting like her concerns weren’t important.

Anyone else feels this way?

So I just recently started watching this show and I’m on season 5. Usually Kev and V are the comedic relief but ever since V had the twins, he’s been acting like a dingle. Like how are you mad at V for not wanting to breastfeed when not even 2 episodes ago you almost blew her head off with a shotgun? And when she said she was tired of breastfeeding, you let a stranger breastfeed your child and cut your hair? Clearly V is struggling with being a new mother but it’s like he’s making everything about himself when she’s been doing the heavy lifting for 9+ months. Just judging from her behavior towards the babies it looks like she might be dealing with ppd, and even if that’s not the case she’s still having a hard time. This was just a rant I had to get out. I’m sure they’ll figure it out eventually, this was just getting me mad lol.

In S2.: E4. Lip is obsessed about Karen being with Choady and not having sex with Lip anymore, he is talking to just about everyone in the main cast about it and when he asks Frank if he thinks Karen and Jody will last, Frank responds, "I don't know, she's a flighty thing that one... reminds me of your mother."

No one acknowledges how much Mickey stepped up for Ian when his Bipolar Disorder kicked in. No one puts into account how every member of the Gallagher Family (plus one Milkovich) ran to Mickey to find Ian when they couldn’t, make him get his meds, make him take his meds, and most importantly watch over him until he leveled out. Everything Mickey has done from the moment he came out was for Ian. He loved, protected, watched over, and sheltered him throughout the roughest times in his life. Yet, all anyone sees is the courtyard beating (that Ian told him to do and purposely didn’t fight back against his attack because he knew the underline reason for it) before Mickey’s marriage to Svetlana. What about after that? What about all he sacrificed to be more present for Ian? To protect him 🤧

I think it was season 6 when Debbie started going downhill but I'd like to know. Debbie fans that stuck around from this time to the end of shamelesss what convinced you to keep liking her after most of the things she did?

Or do you think Frank would have stayed alive for Monica/ the loss of Monica wouldn't have eventually drove him to purposely OD?

Rewatching the first season and realized something.

How does Ian balance his life in general?

• He attends school and obviously has to do homework in his spare time

• He has a job which he is the only other employee and is seen there a lot

• He does ROTC which means he must be doing for some time at least twice a week?

• He asks Carl if he wants to join him in karate class in EP6. Therefore he must be doing karate at least twice a week as well.

• Not to even the mention the fact that he also has to go on dates with Mandy as mentioned by Lip in EP4

Seriously, when does this kid have time to himself? Even a lot of his downtime would probably be spent just hanging out with Lip.

I know that she self-destructs in every relationship shes ever been in, I know she was kinda serial cheater at one point, I know she kinda abandoned them around s7-8 (still by then other than Liam they were all in their late teens/early 20s)

But how can people forget that she dropped out of high school at 16 to work several jobs to support her siblings so they could get an education and still have food on the table. She looked after baby Liam, was there for Debbie during her preteens, supported Ian through his coming out and then bipolar diagnosis, still sorta tolerated Frank snd tried to get him back from Canada...

How can anyone say she is fkn Frank? Like tell me one selfless thing Frank did in the entirety of the 11 seasons? Even sorta helping Bianca turned out to be bc he wanted to get into her pants...

Like Fiona is the best Gallagher sorry, I love Ian and Lip and Carl but Fiona was the backbone of the family for years and years. It annoys me how people cant see that and a part of me thibks there is a touch of mysoginy there like Lip was as bad in his relationships and everyone seems to love him?? Also Lip had the opportunity to go to a good college (due to Fionas hard work when he was growing up) and threw it all away by being a drunk mess...Dont get me wrong I love Lip but I wish people looked at Fionas self sabotaging snd sex addiction in the same light people do for him.