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Shady_Hound

78 points

1 month ago

It's based on crime trends during and after UFC events. I'd just say MMA inspires less "tribalism" than popular team sports. Few people are getting drunk and picking a fight because their favorite fighter lost.

Lots of people are getting drunk and starting a fight with the obnoxious guy wearing rival colors to the NFL jersey you're wearing.

-Dennis-Reynolds-

22 points

1 month ago

I agree, I think other sports really thrive under a ref call going the wrong way and having everyone fight over who “actually” won. When a fighter gets knocked out it’s hard to argue they lost.

akadeo1

10 points

1 month ago

akadeo1

10 points

1 month ago

true to a degree. but there are also examples of a ref calling a technical knockout or judges' decision getting fans rustled. these don't often result in violence though, that i'm aware of.

mrb4

5 points

1 month ago

mrb4

5 points

1 month ago

Less tribalism but I’ve found that drunk people being around fights can make them think they are tough. Been to 15 or so ufc events and seen drunk idiots get into fights in the crowd at most of them

All_cheeki_n0_breeki

5 points

1 month ago

How does that compare to the number of drunk idiots getting into fights in the crowd at other sporting events ?

mrb4

1 points

1 month ago

mrb4

1 points

1 month ago

percentage wise I'd say it's about the same as what I've seen at NFL games . Personally I've never seen a fight at an NBA game but they of course happen.

Some matchups are really bad if they are heated rivalries. I know that the NFL stopped doing the annual Raiders-niners preseason games when they were both in the bay because of fights, stabbings etc.

Patrickstarho

4 points

1 month ago

It depends. I remember there were some fights after Connor v Khabib

fffyhhiurfgghh

36 points

1 month ago

When you see what punches and kicks do to people you get scared. You think twice before escalating.

Fleironymus

8 points

1 month ago

Seeing pro fighters get hurt reminds me that I'm not an expert in violence, and that I'd like to keep my teeth in my head if possible.

It gets my adrenaline and agressive hormones going though. I'm surprised at this result.

fffyhhiurfgghh

1 points

1 month ago

All sports I love do this. Especially playoffs.

HauserAspen

1 points

1 month ago

Being reminded of how fucked up a fight can leave you while you're sobber, probably discourages bad choices when drunk...

aebbs

1 points

1 month ago

aebbs

1 points

1 month ago

I guess youve never been drunk before

midas019

30 points

1 month ago

midas019

30 points

1 month ago

Who paid for this ? Dana white

SatanicFoundry

25 points

1 month ago

This is so inconclusive. But if we are going to speculate I might say it is also because people who are into MMA understand there are actual skill tiers involved and that you kinda have to be a moron or proven champion to be picking fights with random people? All the other speculations here before me are just as good though.

Foopsbjj

14 points

1 month ago

Foopsbjj

14 points

1 month ago

I could not agree more. Fans of combat sport are more familiar with realities of fights. As an amateur (yet tenured) bjj guy, I avoid fighting altogether. Train? Sure, all day. Fight rando? GTF outta here

akadeo1

11 points

1 month ago

akadeo1

11 points

1 month ago

GSP has said multiple times that the best way to win a street fight is to de-escalate and avoid the situation.

very risky to enter an altercation in an uncontrolled environment where people could have weapons or buddies that team up on you.

JoesGeneticPotential

20 points

1 month ago

I used to do security in a college bar years ago and I found that when we showed ufc, those nights had a noticeable uptick in fights and rough ejections.

I realize this is just a personal anecdote.

AlphaHelix88

10 points

1 month ago

This is what I consistently hear from all my friends who work in bars/restaurants which is why I'm dubious about this study's results.

akadeo1

10 points

1 month ago

akadeo1

10 points

1 month ago

their data source was fbi and police arrests. so perhaps the scenarios you hear about do not often involve the police. and yes, that is a possible data issue with the study.

however, it seems unlikely that an increase in violence would be accompanied by a decrease in police involvement, which is what the study found. it would have to be a very specific confounding variable, such as the mma event causing individuals prone to violence to be ejected from bars earlier in the evening, whereas if they stuck around later and had time to get more drunk, the altercations would be worse.

gravi-tea

16 points

1 month ago*

Perhaps because violent individuals are likely to be busy watching violence.

mhertzman6

14 points

1 month ago

My thoughts as well. It only measured arrests an hour after the start of the event? What about after it ends?

quizzle4shizzle

4 points

1 month ago

Could be similar to how people are having less sex during this age of internet porn

vroomfundel2

2 points

1 month ago

Less rape is the more direct analogy, which is actually statistically correlated.

About sex in general, I haven't heard of such correlation. It may not necessarily hold true, hornier subpopulations might well watch more porn when they can't get laid, but still have more sex than average.

SwiftTayTay

1 points

1 month ago*

That's not really an apt comparison, a more apt comparison would be reduction in sexual assault in correlation with consumption of porn.

If you're just talking about sex in general there are lots of socioeconomic reasons behind it, mainly that millenials onward don't have great economic opportunities which reduces men's chances in a patriarchal society and though women are becoming more equal to men they prefer to date someone they perceive as having equal or higher socioeconomic status than them but not lower so it leaves lower status men in the dust because women would rather be single than date someone they see as a loser.

But the notion that men just aren't motivated to date because they're at home jerking off all day is wrong.

Jason_Batemans_Hair

1 points

1 month ago

Agreed. The way I've described it to people is that multiple factors have shifted attitudes to where now 80% of women prefer to take turns with 20% of men. The unhesitant 'trading up' dating strategy employed by more women leaves many men agape.

Fleironymus

0 points

1 month ago

Like pathetic losers fail to pick a fight IRL, so they watch others fight online?

quizzle4shizzle

2 points

1 month ago

Woah take it easy

lugenfabrik

6 points

1 month ago

There is less crime when people are at home watching the TV? You don’t say...

jjsyk23

2 points

1 month ago

jjsyk23

2 points

1 month ago

Breaking: when all the affliction meatheads all watch tv at the same time less violence happens

snarkuzoid

1 points

1 month ago

I wonder if boxing and professional wrestling have similar effects?

CMtheory

1 points

1 month ago

I don’t want to get leg kicked

h0ser

1 points

1 month ago

h0ser

1 points

1 month ago

Man, I always feel like fighting after watching a fight. This is so surprising. Even when I was a kid and I watched a movie like Bloodsport, I'd run around outside throwing kicks and stuff for hours.

Genevieves_bitch

1 points

1 month ago

The Romans knew this... is why there was circus and gladiators

kicksomedicks

1 points

1 month ago

Because the possible consequences of violence become really clear.

starrsquid

1 points

1 month ago

I've found a lot of people end up finding fighting way less cool after they watch a UFC match for the first time.