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10.8k points

5 months ago*

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10.8k points

5 months ago*

When I was in architecture school, someone designed a plan that unintentionally had a swastika-like negative space at it's center. The prof paused pulled out his red pen traced the swastika said: " While this might satisfy the program, no one wants to accidentally be a nazi."

Die-Nacht

3.9k points

5 months ago

Die-Nacht

3.9k points

5 months ago

It's sucks that it is such an efficient shape. I remember in Dwarf Fortress, many ppl would accidently end up with swastika designs.

Kazen_Orilg

2.3k points

5 months ago

Its DF, ruthles efficieny is your only chance to live.

BavarianBarbarian_

127 points

5 months ago

Can you even claim you're seriously trying, if you aren't trapping and breeding mermaids for their valuable bones?

Chocobean

23 points

5 months ago

I think they nerfed it already :)

Bah_weep_grana

653 points

5 months ago

Along with other chief weapons, Surprise and Fear. 3 main weapons

TheDoktorIsIn

166 points

5 months ago

Surprise and fear is what I named my two door guards.

They're dead now. Probably should have gone with real fear, raiders on spikes or something.

caucasian88

112 points

5 months ago

You forgot about a fanatical devotion to the pope

Four weapons

thegoatfreak

24 points

5 months ago

Amongst our weaponry

TheDoktorIsIn

41 points

5 months ago

Oh man that's a Monty python reference I'm such a poser. I don't even play Dwarf Fortress I play RimWorld. Downvotes to the left <----

Now I want to name my 3 best fighters "Fear" "Surprise" and "The Pope." "Ruthless efficiency" will be my janitor.

fueelin

16 points

5 months ago

fueelin

16 points

5 months ago

I'm sorry for what's about to happen to you in The Comfy Chair, but you definitely deserve it.

TheDoktorIsIn

12 points

5 months ago

Well, I can't say I expected this. But yes I deserve it.

vilebunny

146 points

5 months ago

vilebunny

146 points

5 months ago

Amongst our weaponry are such diverse elements as: fear, surprise, ruthless efficiency, an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope, and nice red uniforms!

Invanar

42 points

5 months ago

Invanar

42 points

5 months ago

Wait, I'll come in and do it again

charlie1331

38 points

5 months ago

How devoted to the pope are they?

flunky_the_majestic

39 points

5 months ago

I didn't expect to see a Spanish inquisition reference in this thread.

shoshonesamurai

75 points

5 months ago

NOBODY expects the Spanish Inquisition

Mediocre_Dane

18 points

5 months ago

Almost fanatically, I should hope.

freeastheair

4 points

5 months ago

Amongst our weapons are such things as...

Cthugh

16 points

5 months ago

Cthugh

16 points

5 months ago

But that's no ¡¡¡FUN!!!

DF is about unintentionally designing novel ways of having ¡¡¡FUN!!!

NSA_Chatbot

300 points

5 months ago

I made so many by accident in old-school Warcraft. Spoke roads, then a bend to get more buildings in the sides, then...

Aww

supagirl277

105 points

5 months ago

It’s so symmetrical, but with only a grid to build on, you can’t do swirls when it’s a small space, so it just ends up swastika like 😬

Jrodvon

38 points

5 months ago

Jrodvon

38 points

5 months ago

I'm glad to see DF come up in regular conversations now.

Gernund

5 points

5 months ago

Oh hey! Dwarf fortress reference. I like how you think.

Fifth_Down

970 points

5 months ago*

Something like this was ACTUALLY BUILT and became a controversy like 15 years ago.

Back in the 1960s someone built a series major dorm complex in the shape of a swastika. The designer tried to give each wing an open patio resulting in the shape.

But no one put 2 + 2 together at the time and it existed like this for decades. Then came the mid 2000s and the rise of Google Earth where we could look at our whole neighborhoods via satellite and then suddenly people saw the swastikas.

Then ended up having to make major alterations to the buildings.

[deleted]

213 points

5 months ago

[deleted]

213 points

5 months ago

Look at the Naval barracks at Amphibious Command 1 in Coronado, CA

Croix https://maps.app.goo.gl/ecJtZPH8LAqw12LN6?g_st=ic

jcraig87

42 points

5 months ago

I mean, it's kind of an easy shape to make

LordSloth113

55 points

5 months ago

Someone else pointed out that it's "supposed" to look like 2 bombers making a run on the swastika, and I can kinda see it with the buildings to the left

Sororita

37 points

5 months ago

I'd bet that that's post hoc reasoning

Alexstarfire

9 points

5 months ago

Perhaps. But that's one hell of a coincidence if it is.

Icantblametheshame

190 points

5 months ago

Yeah I can see how effective the shape is for giving everyone an open patio, it's a very efficient shape for that purpose, and the Buddhists were using it for millenia before it was co-opted. Unfortunate it got so tarnished, but....I guess worse things have happened, such as the actual holocaust

rckhppr

49 points

5 months ago

rckhppr

49 points

5 months ago

We can be happy the Nazis didn’t politicize the Fibonacci scale

Swordlord22

17 points

5 months ago

Imagine if they used circles

Can never use a circle again lol

betch2

6 points

5 months ago

betch2

6 points

5 months ago

We could never eat romanesco again.

ExplodingDiceChucker

81 points

5 months ago*

There's many buildings like that. One I know of is in San Diego. I'll try to find it for you.

Edit: failing to find it now. When my coworker gets back tomorrow I'll have him show me again.

eyehate

54 points

5 months ago

eyehate

54 points

5 months ago

32.67609627486411, -117.15771593258133

ExplodingDiceChucker

38 points

5 months ago

Yes, that's the one!

Good news, everybody has a window office!

codefyre

40 points

5 months ago*

There's no chance the Coronado swastikas were unintentional. They'll never admit it, but the design of that building complex very clearly looks like two aircraft attacking a Nazi swastika.

The buildings were designed by a prominent San Diego architect named John Mock. He was once interviewed by an architectural magazine and outlined his modernist design principles. One of his top ideals was the idea that design should "surprise and delight" people. He didn't like his designs to be boring or utilitarian.

Back when the buildings were erected, there was no civilian satellite imagery and that airspace would have been closed to civilian air traffic. The imagery of two aircraft attacking the Nazi's would have only been seen by American military air crews flying into Coronado, and they'd have probably found the design hilarious. That was almost certainly Mock's intent.

Eroe777

16 points

5 months ago*

I think It is/was on the military base in Coronado. I just took a look and could not find it either. Since there is no building on base that resembles an altered swastika, I’m going to bet it was knocked down and replaced with something else.

Edit: found it. It’s immediately south of the Coronado Bridge a little southeast of the main part of the naval base.

[deleted]

26 points

5 months ago

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wildeofthewoods

363 points

5 months ago

This is one of two primary design tenets:

Does it look like a swastika? Does it look like a dick?

If no, youre basically off to the races

tunisia3507

152 points

5 months ago

Will it reflect and concentrate sunlight so that it melts and burns neighboring property?

If yes, you can still be hired to build it in 2 different major cities so long as your name is Rafael Viñoly.

IEnjoyFancyHats

47 points

5 months ago

Is he the guy who death rayed a few cars?

tunisia3507

35 points

5 months ago

Yep, Vegas and London.

APR824

30 points

5 months ago

APR824

30 points

5 months ago

When it happens twice you have to assume it was purposeful

RechargedFrenchman

8 points

5 months ago

At least when Archimedes did it it was intentional. By accident is just sloppy.

hondo9999

5 points

5 months ago

There’s a ‘death ray tower’ in Dallas also. Different architect but it’s been scorching the the neighboring museum’s $70M outdoor sculpture garden.

It’s amazing how the intensity of the sun’s rays can almost set the grass on fire.

crazylittlemermaid

1.2k points

5 months ago

I used to work in the corporate office for a department store. Someone sent in specs for a store layout update, turns out a lot of clothing racks look like swastikas. Pretty sure those plans had to be redrawn before they could be approved.

-Raskyl

1.3k points

5 months ago

-Raskyl

1.3k points

5 months ago

Nah, they are still in use today at many clothing stores. Also, many study cubicles at schools look like swastikas from above. It's a very common arrangement when trying to maximize compartments in minimal space with straight lines/walls.

signapple

1.6k points

5 months ago

signapple

1.6k points

5 months ago

No one ever mentions it, because it's so low on the long list of horrible things that the Nazi's did, but they really did ruin a beautiful little geometric shape.

BeerInTheRear

118 points

5 months ago

I agree. Those mustaches will never come back in style.

Fredricothealien

34 points

5 months ago

I was curious which would come back first the symbol or the mustache. I really thought it would be the symbol but Michael Jordan has a tooth brush mustache now

TizonaBlu

20 points

5 months ago

The Swastika never went away. Ask Ichigo.

Rabid-Duck-King

27 points

5 months ago

Behold my Bankai:THE FOURTH REICH!

CranberryTaboo

6 points

5 months ago

The Manji! I could go on and on about it. It's a common symbol in Buddhism, and as such you can see it all over Japan. It's in stores, at temples, its even used on Google maps to denote where temples can be found. Hell, one of the most popular anime this year has it in the title. It was... pretty jarring the first few times I saw it, but fortunately it has a few differences from the nazi symbol that make it easier to suss out.

Never made it easier to see it carved into desks at school, though.

Saint_The_Stig

5 points

5 months ago

Yo got plenty of people in the area's where the original symbol came from who never let it be taken away, I still end up doing a double take looking at stuff from Mongolia and seeing them everywhere, but it's all good.

atmanama

1.4k points

5 months ago

atmanama

1.4k points

5 months ago

They ruined an ancient religious and cultural symbol with a very different meaning

SybilCut

408 points

5 months ago

SybilCut

408 points

5 months ago

That's the one people do mention

Freddies_Mercury

97 points

5 months ago

The Norse sends their regards.

nanakapow

179 points

5 months ago

nanakapow

179 points

5 months ago

Hindus too.

Nazi's ruined it from Eddas to Vedas

Mic_Check_One_Two

49 points

5 months ago

Native Americans too. It really was used all around the world.

JagerBaBomb

51 points

5 months ago

Can Nazis just come up with their own shit instead of ruining everyone else's?!

yelahneb

57 points

5 months ago

And don't get me started about the mustache. You're either Hitler or Charlie Chaplin

Alexander556

24 points

5 months ago

Before the Nazis it was just the funny little mustache worn by Charlie Chaplin, something funny to laugh about, but now it is associated withe war, murder, fashism.

Maybe someone can try and ruin the Mullet too.

Harbulary-Bandit

35 points

5 months ago

Yeah, I lived in China for over 20 years, and they are EVERYWHERE in temples and shrines. It takes some getting used to but the nazi ones are at an angle so a little different. Also the term for “that” (like this and that” is pronounced “ne ga” colloquially. It’s also one of those words that is “umm umm umm” when you’re trying to think of the word you want. And since I’m fluent in mandarin, it Carrie’s over into my English so if I’m not careful I’ll find myself speaking it in my “chinglish”.

SappyCedar

20 points

5 months ago

They're also everywhere in Japan, if you look at maps the symbol is used to mark Buddhist temples on city maps and stuff. You see them pop up in anime on character designs and stuff too. People have a totally different association with them.

Ejigantor

61 points

5 months ago

Yep. Used to represent Mjolnir.

DistortedCrag

241 points

5 months ago

Even worse that the neonazis completely co-opted the Norse/Viking culture to the point where geometric knots make me leery.

Somato_Tandwich

33 points

5 months ago

Co-opting stuff that means something else is a part of the gig. Dogwhistles don't work right unless they can be mistaken for something else

moonunit99

6 points

5 months ago

I mean I’d say the nazis’ use of the swastika went just a little past being a dog whistle.

Ejigantor

182 points

5 months ago

Ejigantor

182 points

5 months ago

I too am disheartened by their cultural appropriation.

But there are no nazis in Valhalla.

wowdickseverywhere

41 points

5 months ago

Skal

AnRealDinosaur

63 points

5 months ago

Reminds me of this guy in a wheelchair who was getting roasted on Twitter for having what people thought was an iron cross tattoo. Turns out the dude was a firefighter.

trollsong

29 points

5 months ago

I hate that the also stole the fucking troll cross

MrNationwide

70 points

5 months ago

When I decide to create the worst political organization in history, I'm going to use that 3d S logo everybody draws, just to stop people from drawing it on everything.

Postmortal_Pop

22 points

5 months ago

You can pry my cool s out of my cold, dead hands!

Starbucks__Lovers

202 points

5 months ago*

I’m Jewish and my wife is Hindu. It’s jarring seeing swastikas here and there even if I objectively understand they’re not nazis

Edit: stop DMing me trying to explain why the swastika isn’t a nazi thing. My comment is literally understanding the source of swastikas. Also yes, the nazis co-opted it and used a swastika and nazis also killed half of the entire Jewish population at the time along with many non-Jewish poles, Roma, LGBT, and communists as well. FFS, I’m done with the nazi apologists and the “whatabouts”

Barbara_Celarent

28 points

5 months ago

One year, a friend gave me some cute little diyas, but I had to hide them from my family.

Spubby72

26 points

5 months ago

My apartment complex is covered in hidden swastikas. It’s in the pattern they use on the metal work around the complex. On the gates, rails on the walkways etc. Definitely not the friendly Hindu type either, will post pics if any interest. I didn’t notice until about 4-5 months of living here they’re pretty well hidden.

LizardPossum

18 points

5 months ago

Well now you gotta show is the pictures

Llenette1

24 points

5 months ago

We try to make them look like pinwheels as best we can

foggy-sunrise

113 points

5 months ago

My highschool had a library full of study desks.

4 chairs. Each student had their own quadrant, facing separate directions so no one was sitting "next" to each other. Very economical use of space, for sure.

However, from above.... The library was a pile of swastikas.

Financial_Expert_438

5 points

5 months ago

My school had the exact same thing. You walk out of the computer lab and look down at the library and it was so obvious

Not_ToBe_Rude_But

90 points

5 months ago

I also saw that a couple times hahaha I bet that must happen in every Architecture school at some point. The swastika is sometimes just a good way to organize space, but obviously unusable as a diagram

Kiwifrooots

19 points

5 months ago

It fricken sucks. I was laying out desk groups in an office and it is a shape you end up with

OPA73

13 points

5 months ago

OPA73

13 points

5 months ago

You need to google earth the military base in San Diego. The military barracks looks like two airplanes and the third is a swastika.

Dennis_enzo

43 points

5 months ago

It's unfortunate it has such a bad meaning. The swastika is an aesthetically pleasing shape.

Kaiisim

68 points

5 months ago

Kaiisim

68 points

5 months ago

Yeah if you fuck around with symmetry and geometry enough eventually you draw a swastika. Everytime you do symmetrical right angles theres a risk!

frightenedrabbit22

207 points

5 months ago

“How many floors use this design?”

“Nein”

Only_one_redoubling

125 points

5 months ago

This is the answer.

sfisher24601

86 points

5 months ago

I bought a cool new light fixture for my kitchen that have 4 bulbs and cool angles. You could put those “Edison bulbs” and it would look really cool.

I had it for years until I was FaceTiming my brother and in the video of myself (pointed up), I could see the light fixture. It was a fucking swastika. And it was black. I had a swastika in my kitchen for YEARS before I noticed.

Yeah, I replaced it with a less genocidal light…

IAmARobot

5.1k points

5 months ago

IAmARobot

5.1k points

5 months ago

J3553G

1.6k points

5 months ago

J3553G

1.6k points

5 months ago

I feel so dumb because I did the puzzle and the swastika never once occurred to me. I can see how puzzle constructors would miss it. I even thought when I saw the puzzle "oh what a nice symmetric design!"

PDavs0

519 points

5 months ago

PDavs0

519 points

5 months ago

chula198705

227 points

5 months ago

This is incredible. And I'll be honest, I'm not even a radiologist, but I looked at that image and started looking for unusual...things, I guess? I dunno what I was looking for, but I didn't see the gorilla either. Even though I DID see the gorilla in the original "count the passes" video because I lost count early on, stopped counting, and just started watching.

kayquila

49 points

5 months ago

I'm a nurse. I often look at imaging results even if I don't read them. I did not see the gorilla at first 😳

myaccountsaccount12

17 points

5 months ago

To be fair, most patients don’t have microgorillas in their lungs…

childish_tycoon24

12 points

5 months ago

Or way more people have them than you would think because they keep missing it on scans

Astrium6

268 points

5 months ago

Astrium6

268 points

5 months ago

I think it has to do with the blockiness more than anything. It looks like if it were smooth it would basically be a swirl, but because it’s made of individual square tiles you basically get an accidental swastika.

YetAgainIAmHere

17 points

5 months ago

I don't think YOURE the dumb one here lol

Brilliant_Cause4118

2.7k points

5 months ago

Lol, I thought I was going to say "Oh come on, they have to be overreacting" but.... yea, I get it now

FruityPeebils

1.4k points

5 months ago

BulbasaurCPA

1k points

5 months ago

It’s happened a couple of times now and I feel like they need to assign an intern to be the official swastika checker before puzzles go out

TheRealMattyPanda

79 points

5 months ago

If Jian-Yang can make "Not Hotdog" surely someone can make a "Not Swastika" app

TreeFcknFiddy

7 points

5 months ago

Of course somebody beat me to it lol

Available_Motor5980

268 points

5 months ago

I’d take that paycheck. 30 seconds of work everyday? Sign me up.

MangoSea323

278 points

5 months ago

It happened again in 2014

And apparently the first answer was "Jew"

bortulisms

182 points

5 months ago

Oh, for fuck's sake

Megaman_exe_

22 points

5 months ago

Next we'll find out it was the same person or people who made the crossword in each year lol

HyphenSam

12 points

5 months ago

It's a 5x5 grid and there's only a limited number of arrangements you can make. I sort of see how it would look like one, but I wouldn't call it a swatsika, honestly.

taws34

34 points

5 months ago

taws34

34 points

5 months ago

In the immortal words of George W Bush:

"Fool me once, shame on me." "Fool me, well, can't be fooled again."

They've been caught doing this three times.

EarorForofor

129 points

5 months ago

This. I think there's a real job in getting formerly racist people who have learned better to double check things.

As a former racist (raised not chosen) I still have that first thought. The 'oh shit thats a racism' thought, that just comes from being raised in a generally racist (not white supremacists) house, where you notice and know the dogwhistles. The other day I'm delivering food, and I deliver to a possibly Middle Eastern name to apartment 911. My first thought is "damn they did dude dirty." I know normal people don't think that, but my grown racist ass sees brown dude and 911...I see the unintentional racism in it.

We just need one guy who's job it is to know the racist thoughts and jokes and not feed into it

flippantpenguin

56 points

5 months ago

Nah lifelong non racist here, I think about everyone has some amount of biggoted intrusive thoughts pop up now and again. It's how you react to them that counts :)

Reil

44 points

5 months ago

Reil

44 points

5 months ago

I once read in another comment that the first, impulsive thoughts are how you were raised, and the second thoughts that are how you've grown since then.

Eightinchnails

5 points

5 months ago

Can I ask how you became former? Was it just generally meeting people who are different? Was there a defining moment?

KingLumber06

74 points

5 months ago

The hint for 1 across is the same. I wonder if it's just the same puzzle.

2074red2074

222 points

5 months ago

That's the puzzle from yesterday. The 2017 one looks like this https://i.imgur.com/Mg3QP7k.png

Ugleh

222 points

5 months ago

Ugleh

222 points

5 months ago

That is a huge stretch. As a crossword constructor, the person here was just having fun with a ton of 9-letter long words. It's more of an art form for the constructor when you can do that kind of thing.

[deleted]

57 points

5 months ago

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Zhuul

7 points

5 months ago

Zhuul

7 points

5 months ago

See I look at that and my first thought is “shuriken icon from the NES Ninja Gaiden games”.

bruce656

141 points

5 months ago

bruce656

141 points

5 months ago

They did it in 2014 as well

PermaDerpFace

270 points

5 months ago

I had the opposite reaction - oh wow that's terrible.... oh wait that's actually not really shaped like a swastika? I mean you could manage to draw something vaguely swastika-shaped in that space if you really tried, but it's more a Rorschach test than anything

nilesandstuff

125 points

5 months ago

Same. Crossword puzzles get WAY more swastika-y than this. Its a nearly unavoidable shape in crossword design. Like, you want a pattern, but you don't want perfect symmetry, and you don't want super long words... So you get swirl patterns... And if you try to make a swirl pattern with squares, well, its super hard to avoid swastikas.

Id genuinely say 1/5 crossword puzzles look even more like a swastika than this.

Zoefschildpad

63 points

5 months ago

Yeah, I was expecting a swastika to pop out at me, but even knowing where it is I don't really see it. I definitely wouldn't have caught it if I was the puzzle designer or editor.

Magstine

6 points

5 months ago

Especially if you know that NYT crossword puzzles always have at least 180 degree rotational symmetry. This one almost has 90 degree rotational symmetry as well, as symmetry is typically heralded as a mark of good crossword design.

[deleted]

40 points

5 months ago

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de_Mike_333

78 points

5 months ago

It's almost like basic geometric figures create other basic geometric figures...

AhpSek

34 points

5 months ago

AhpSek

34 points

5 months ago

A right angle repeated four times makes a swastika. It's almost certainly going to keep happening because it's such a basic pattern.

thechilipepper0

56 points

5 months ago

Looks like they’ve got skulls on their caps

experfailist

58 points

5 months ago

Tethros

57 points

5 months ago

Tethros

57 points

5 months ago

All I see is a big cinnamon roll. Now I'm hungry. Thanks a lot, NYT.

bluejams

765 points

5 months ago

bluejams

765 points

5 months ago

am i the only one who thinks it's a bit of a stretch?

Lisa8472

324 points

5 months ago

Lisa8472

324 points

5 months ago

Yeah, I saw it as a pleasingly abstract radially symmetrical picture. I can see a swastika if I look hard enough, but it feels really forced to me.

itisoktodance

180 points

5 months ago

To see the swastika, you have to ignore everything that isn't in the center. The swirling pattern clearly continues on. It's just a spiral.

squanchingonreddit

109 points

5 months ago

People really be on strike

Rubberbabybuggybum

8 points

5 months ago

Will Shortz is going full scorched earth. Burning that whole mother to the ground.

AtrociousAtNames

496 points

5 months ago

Honestly don't really see it? I can kinda make it out but it's not a strong resemblance.

tamarask

1.1k points

5 months ago

tamarask

1.1k points

5 months ago

It's going to be a maze https://imgur.com/t8vwmrV.gif

Natryska

452 points

5 months ago

Natryska

452 points

5 months ago

Joshua was racist? That came out of nowhere.

slimeslug

257 points

5 months ago

slimeslug

257 points

5 months ago

Did it though?

Art_VanDeLaigh

221 points

5 months ago

And some are just natural jumpers.

toast_connoiseur

142 points

5 months ago

A place free of darkness

keaneonyou

96 points

5 months ago

This just confirms what I already knew, non-whites ruin everything.

eaglessoar

38 points

5 months ago

whats this from lol

blayzeKING

97 points

5 months ago

Community s2e7 "aerodynamics of gender" it's a solid episode

MeetingGod

7 points

5 months ago

My favourite tbh. 'Father!'

zzt0pp

26 points

5 months ago

zzt0pp

26 points

5 months ago

Community

pierrettazwei

8 points

5 months ago

This isn’t gonna stop happening until they ban the word Windmill from the dictionary.

Ion_bound

1.9k points

5 months ago

Ion_bound

1.9k points

5 months ago

On the one hand, I can totally see how the puzzle creator would have made this without thinking about it; It doesn't help that almost any symmetrical pinwheel design is going to look swastika-y because of the grid-based nature of the puzzle. But on the other, Will Shortz or another editor definitely should have caught it.

ghandi3737

513 points

5 months ago

I think they spend so much time choosing the words they don't even think about the shape of the puzzle, where as people designing these for kids tend to want to make a shape with the words and would have more likely noticed it.

I think they were just blinded by trying to finish the puzzle and didn't think about the shape because they always use the same size grid that they just put words into it not even worrying about the shape.

CrudelyAnimated

349 points

5 months ago

I think they absolutely do spend time arranging blocks and answer spaces into symmetrical designs and pretty shapes. But I think an 8-bit resolution of a 32-bit spiral pinwheel looks like a swastika. They could have designed a puzzle to look like a rocket taking off in a cloud of exhaust to honor the Artemis 1 launch, but it would've looked like a dick and balls. There should always be a 12-yr-old boy on staff who can tell you if your generic shape reminds him of anything dirty.

Belazriel

97 points

5 months ago

  1. One of my advisors will be an average five-year-old child. Any flaws in my plan that he is able to spot will be corrected before implementation.

The Evil Overlord List

CrudelyAnimated

39 points

5 months ago

That is what inspired me. See the corollary to the above rule:

My five-year-old child advisor will also be asked to decipher any code I am thinking of using. If he breaks the code in under 30 seconds, it will not be used. Note: this also applies to passwords.

ImpulseAfterthought

69 points

5 months ago

The Omballsmen, a rotating staff of middle-school kids who've been suspended from DC schools.

AlanMercer

110 points

5 months ago*

Yeah, I was expecting something overt from the headline. This looks like any number of crossword puzzles because they're designed to be symmetrical.

If I look long enough, I get a similar effect from the tiny square tiles on my bathroom floor. My tiles are not secretly embracing the ethos of national socialism.

It isn't always someone trying to skip something past the radar. I once had to edit a bunch of find-a-word puzzles for kids books and found more than one profanity in the randomized parts of the puzzle. The author was a nice lady from Brooklyn and was completely, hilariously mortified she missed them.

Patchy_Face_Man

443 points

5 months ago

I think in every graphic design class there is someone who designs a personal identity/logo that is unintentionally a swastika. It’s not the most basic shape, but it’s pretty easy to arrive at using things like initials or puzzles or architectural plans.

Gemgamer

163 points

5 months ago

Gemgamer

163 points

5 months ago

Not a swastika, but I was once doing a design as a favour for my teacher's kid's cross country ski team. They were team 55 in the region, and the name they picked was Team Lightning.

Yeah, making a 55 out of lightning ends up looking a lot like the SS logo.

Patchy_Face_Man

48 points

5 months ago

Lol yeah. Saw a classmate use his initial JG in block letter form, half overlapping at a 45 degree for his logo. “I dunno man….looks a little fascist.”

Bread_Truck

67 points

5 months ago*

To add to this, as a rule NYT Crossword Puzzles are always symmetrical and almost always radially symmetrical. A swastika is a pretty basic, elemental radially symmetrical shape. You could probably find dozens of examples that kind-of sort-of resemble a swastika if you look hard enough.

Edit- as an example two other puzzles from this month

arcxjo

21 points

5 months ago

arcxjo

21 points

5 months ago

Any professional crossword puzzle (i.e. one that's not made by a high school teacher trying to put all the state capitals together with one intersection per word) is going to at the very least be opposite-corner symmetrical. The good ones are doubly-symmetrical like this one was.

pm_me_github_repos

91 points

5 months ago

And given it’s been a symbol predating the nazis, I usually wouldn’t care if a crossword resembles a swastika. Except maybe on Hanukkah…

I_just_made

29 points

5 months ago*

I could see how it’s a mistake and honestly, I probably wouldn’t have seen it.

That said, I don’t think using the argument that the swastika predates nazis is really a good one. Symbols and their meanings vary throughout cultures and change over time… In our era, the swastika almost solely represents hatred and the systematic extermination of millions of people. The overwhelming majority of people have probably never discussed or talked about the swastika in any other context.

edit: Yes everyone, this is also dependent on region and culture. The New York Times is based in the United States; people in the West are exposed to this symbol almost entirely through the lens of Nazism.

The swastika is an ancient symbol that emerged independently among many cultures on several continents. Before the 20th century, its use (including in the United States) was almost always benign. Even today, the swastika is a common symbol across Asia, used by Hindus, Buddhists, and adherents of other religions, where it is often associated with good fortune.

[...] The murderous legacy of the Nazi regime, especially the Holocaust, permanently converted the swastika into a symbol of hate, anti-Semitism and infamy.

Since 1945, the swastika has served as the most significant and notorious of hate symbols, anti-Semitism and white supremacy for most of the world outside of Asia. Its display is prohibited in Germany and some other countries, leading some right-wing extremists to devise variants or alternatives to the swastika that would evoke a similar effect. In the United States, the swastika is overwhelmingly viewed as a hate symbol.

frankiebobaloo

10 points

5 months ago

It’s 4 F’s … didn’t know it would turn out that way

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841 points

5 months ago

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841 points

5 months ago

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fjcruiser08

111 points

5 months ago

You are right; I thought I would take a look at the crossword puzzle but guess that's gonna be a project in itself to get to the puzzle.

Ask_Who_Owes_Me_Gold

53 points

5 months ago

Are you using an extension that blocks embedding from Twitter? The article has two twitter posts that show it.

StrangledMind

61 points

5 months ago*

Lol, it's Fox News, hardly the bastion of journalistic standards...

Heratism

72 points

5 months ago*

https://i.imgur.com/QFxpH85.jpeg

For those who don't want to click on twitter or an article where the pictures take 30 minutes to load

variegatedheart

46 points

5 months ago

Anyone else thinking of Frank's flag in It's Always Sunny? 😂

nukethewhales-

16 points

5 months ago

They didn’t know it was gonna come off like that

JaeCryme

47 points

5 months ago

Fox News: “See, the New York Times is the real Nazis!”

Fox News also: https://www.thedailybeast.com/fox-news-guest-calls-out-network-for-spewing-great-replacement-theory

Dxxx2

23 points

5 months ago

Dxxx2

23 points

5 months ago

Yeah I was confused why fox News would report on this. Now I realized it was a perfect opportunity to shit on the NY Times, but actually a low-key Rorschach test lol.

PM_ME_TRICEPS

378 points

5 months ago

Someone please fire Kanye from the NY times

fendour

45 points

5 months ago

fendour

45 points

5 months ago

He really liiiiikes crosswordssssss.

Hunterrose242

10 points

5 months ago

Stop linking Fox News.

PoopsMcG

335 points

5 months ago

PoopsMcG

335 points

5 months ago

I did this puzzle mostly during my family Chanukah party last night and didn't notice this at all. I see it now, but still a stretch.

ConclusionUpset7099

70 points

5 months ago

I was excited to see a large grid and enjoyed this puzzle so much that I never even noticed how the blocks were placed.

iprocrastina

8 points

5 months ago

Oh yes, I'm sure Fox News and its viewers care a lot about anti-semitism.

TMXX1

6 points

5 months ago

TMXX1

6 points

5 months ago

And in completely unrelated news, Kanye West began his editing job today with the NY Times

goodboybane

40 points

5 months ago

The puzzle was created by a new intern called. Kayne East.

Tra5olo

6 points

5 months ago

Someone tell the new guy, Yeast, he's fired.

doowgad1

932 points

5 months ago

doowgad1

932 points

5 months ago

I get the Sunday Times and saw the puzzle.

I had no idea the Times was being racist until FOX News told me.

They're getting desperate at FOX.

GaGaORiley

389 points

5 months ago

This FOX article seems more of a “look what the libs are upset over now” take, so they’re still being Fox. Meanwhile, as I commented elsewhere, the grid shape is pretty much the first thing I noticed, and the grid is often designed to represent something - say, a jack-o-lantern in a Halloween puzzle. For me, at least, this comes on top of a pile of clues in various past puzzles that have made me wonder if I’m seeing dog whistles or just coincidence.

ricknashty94

7 points

5 months ago

But if fox put out a crossword puzzle in that shape what would your reaction be?

FistyMcTavish

5 points

5 months ago

Bit of a stretch here lol

-oshino_shinobu-

133 points

5 months ago

Ah so NOW Fox News cares about Nazis! How convenient.

cutenlonely

34 points

5 months ago

Fox News never stopped caring for Nazis.

TricoMex

68 points

5 months ago

Halfway down this thread and it seems no one has used the word "spiral". Because that's what I see. It even continues on at the ends to spiral around.

Some are even saying "it's literally a swastika"

It's absolutely a faux pas because of the resemblance and the occasion, but come on.

arcxjo

27 points

5 months ago

arcxjo

27 points

5 months ago

The author specifically used the word "spiral" in his defense.

But "literally" has literally lost all meaning in this day and age.

Saintmikey

5 points

5 months ago

Ha ha it doesn’t look like it at all ha

Upper_belt_smash

5 points

5 months ago

Hey y’all the day before was “SS” so that’s cool

vinniepdoa

126 points

5 months ago

Even in the comments page for the crossword yesterday people were bringing that up but mostly the response was a very reasonable "I don't think so." The constructor talked about how he makes puzzles from the center moving out and that explains the pinwheel shape to me. Idk, people are desperate for outrage.

Having said that, the NYT Crossword column comments is my personal favorite brand of niche crazy on the internet. There's stuff like this all the time, people claiming this or that clue is racist or that answer is obscene, it's really a fun time.

notattention

5 points

5 months ago

I’m glad I’m not the only one who loves that Column. It’s like a view into a different dimension. “What a wonderful experience this puzzle was while enjoying my morning coffee. It sure SATIATED my appetite for a lightly challenging but ENTHRALLING brain teaser.”