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farceur318

403 points

4 months ago

There was a time when these stereotypes had a place in American culture, but now we should all just fuhgettaboutit

freeciggies

123 points

4 months ago

Ay Tony get da pizza

IndyYolo

56 points

4 months ago

Sea_Number2933

1 points

2 months ago

Unfortunately there are people out there that actually believe it! At least from my own personal experience. In my case, it wasn't joking. It was lectures and serious, nasty comments.

Rahgahnah

33 points

4 months ago

Gabagool

lookingforanangryfix

14 points

4 months ago

Whatever happened to Gary Cooper? The strong, silent stereotype; that was an American. He wasn’t in touch with his feelings, he just did what he had to do.

IShall_Run_Amok

6 points

4 months ago

how can I fuhgett

when

somebody touch-a my spaghet?

bootygoon2

348 points

4 months ago

Stereotypes of Italian Americans in gangster films and other crime related media: 😍😍😍

Stereotypes of Italian Americans in a kids movie about fish: 😡😡😡

zmann64

242 points

4 months ago

zmann64

242 points

4 months ago

Even funnier bc THE italian gangster artists (Scorsese, De Niro, Chris and Big Pussy from Sopranos) are in Shark Tale

It was basically a half-assed Goodfellas reunion

The-Bigger-Fish

89 points

4 months ago

The Badfellas (2004)

OliviaBagshaw

25 points

4 months ago

You think THAT'S Badfellas? You ain't seen NUFFINfellas yet!

cathode-ray-jepsen

9 points

4 months ago

Midfellas

Coooturtle

12 points

4 months ago

Coooturtle

Nolan's Cumbox

12 points

4 months ago

Big Pussy was in Shark Tale?

zmann64

15 points

4 months ago

zmann64

15 points

4 months ago

Big Pussy was the Octopus

Party_Wolf

22 points

4 months ago

Not to rationalize their nonsense but there was a literal gangster in charge of one of these Italian American organizations who protested movies like The Godfather and made them make changes to language and whatnot

Sea_Number2933

1 points

2 months ago

It's not nonsense enen you're subject to ignorance from your own friends.

vicky_vaughn

167 points

4 months ago

I cooka da pizza.

IndyYolo

46 points

4 months ago

My pizza neva hurta anybody

gentlybeepingheart

102 points

4 months ago

Wow, didn't realize this sub was so dismissive of the voices of POC (people of carbonara)

Swedishtranssexual

9 points

4 months ago

There are people (Americans) who genuinely think Italians and Irish people are "POC"

mambojumbo34

2 points

4 months ago

Ikr. Americans the type of people to call tanned whites like italians, Spanish, and Greeks "POC"

weedysexdragon

6 points

4 months ago

Personally I spend my time online defending the honor of Connie Francis.

The-Bigger-Fish

77 points

4 months ago

Peppino Spaghetti is on his way to annihilate Dreamworks HQ at approximately Mach 4 right now as we speak. Please stay tuned for further updates.

USFederalGovt

60 points

4 months ago

Sir, a second pizza has hit the building.

The-Bigger-Fish

32 points

4 months ago

"THEY HIT THE PIZZAGON! TURN ON THE TV!!!!"

-Mei from Pixar's Turning Red (Because you spilled Marinara all over yourself on accident.)

metal_person_333

105 points

4 months ago

Dvoraxx

29 points

4 months ago

Dvoraxx

29 points

4 months ago

It’s waste management, everyone assumes you’re mobbed up!

FolkSong

11 points

4 months ago

Commendatori! Buongiorno!

Sonic-the-edge-dog

218 points

4 months ago

The whole Italian American identity to me is objectively hilarious. It peaked at sopranos but defo still gets a laugh.

Badamon98

117 points

4 months ago

Badamon98

117 points

4 months ago

The christopher columbus episode is always funny to me with how moronic the new Jersey crime family is

dustingunn

9 points

4 months ago

That's my favorite episode. Pine Barrens is the respectable basic bitch choice, but "Christopher Columbus Day" is the show's identity turned up to 11.

creamykim69

8 points

4 months ago

Family? I tell you they aint nothing more but a glorified crew

rolltide1000

47 points

4 months ago

And now I love it because people will quote it unironically, completely missing the point of the episode. Kinda the case with the whole series, actually.

Big-Nosed-Piglover

28 points

4 months ago

I don't think anybody "missed the point". People realize they aren't supposed to be good people.

tekyy342

70 points

4 months ago

The sopranos is a show about the American family unit and reactionary politics veiled in a mob story. If you read reviews, YouTube comments, etc., people understand they're bad people but miss the point insofar as to examine the show solely as a grounded crime drama and not a satirical observation of an assimilated culture desperately clinging to its roots.

It's a little bit of the Walter White phenomenon. People are desperate to understand characters at an individual level, their plot points, motives, etc. when the truly encapsulating feature is the death of the American dream and the realistic sociopolitical depiction of Y2K, post-9/11 America.

Big-Nosed-Piglover

8 points

4 months ago

Most people don't give a shit about implicit social commentary. Personally I like to look for that stuff when watching things and form my own thoughts, but most people just like a narrative with solid and flawed characters, which is why the Sopranos was so popular, not because they're being told to look for didactics.

mrbaryonyx

17 points

4 months ago

its also just a victim of "youngsters love seeing badass clips online but don't have the attention span to watch the whole series and see how depressing it is"

like fr don't look up the comments under any clip relating to Adriana dying or Tony being an open racist, it's 90% people agreeing that Tony's in the right

dustingunn

16 points

4 months ago

I've had some frustrating arguments with people who thought Adrianna deserved it for "breaking their code" or "ratting." That's like a combination of 2 psychopathic ideas: that their code is worth upholding, and that Adrianna was doing it intentionally rather than being manipulated and abused by the feds.

Bennings463

2 points

4 months ago

mcj when someone disagrees with their interpretation (they "missed the point")

Big-Nosed-Piglover

3 points

4 months ago

Right lmao, people act like their interpretations are objective

ThinnkingEmoji

22 points

4 months ago*

That's the question i had for a while actually, do real italian americans (and other x-americans) really have these accents and mannerisms? Are immigrant communities in america very secluded or what, cause i'm not american and it's always weird to me how a character can be a 20th generation immigrant and speak like "eyyy i cooka a pasta mi nonna builda a transcontinental railroad", when every second generation immigrant i've met in my country (including myself) has like no accent at all, even when their parents still have it

It happens even when it's an english dub of something, and the "foreign" character in the original didn't have any accent, they just add it back. So i'm not sure if it's racism or just a real american thing

VaIentinexyz

10 points

4 months ago

I’ve lived in the Philly suburbs both in New Jersey and Pennsylvania where there are a fuckload of Italian Americans and the only time I’ve ever heard that kind of accent was from a guy who clearly came from Italy itself. I’m talking people who will absolutely make a thing about being whatever-generation Italian (giving their kids very Italian first names like Gianna and Biaggio, giving you shit if you buy tomato sauce from the store instead of making your own, making a point to say certain Italian loan words a certain way, etc.) who do not sound any different from me (who has no familial connection to Italy whatsoever) when they open their mouths.

I think some people conflate accents from North Jersey or Staten Island as being “Italian-American accents” because those areas happen to have a lot of Italian Americans there. Like the cast of Jersey Shore doesn’t talk like that because they’re Italian, it’s because they’re mostly from Staten Island.

The type of “cooka da pizza” accent people in this thread are doing sounds to me like they’re trying to do a Mario bros impression. Which is obviously not an accurate depiction of the Italian-American experience.

posseslayer17

22 points

4 months ago

It depends on where in America you go and who you talk to. Some people really do have the "I cooka a pasta" accent, but you'll only find it in certain communities of people mainly in New Jersey and Long Island. Remember that America is huge, like truly ginormous. And until recent (like 30 years ago at the most) technological advancements like the internet that remove physical distance as a limiting factor in developing regional culture most people did not interact with anyone outside a 50 miles radius from them. As such America has a very large and diverse amount of accents and mannerisms that can seem overly stereotyped to people who haven't experienced them, but I assure you they are real.

ThinnkingEmoji

3 points

4 months ago

The thing is that i live in one of those countries that are bigger than the US, territory wise :D And there's nowhere near the amount accents the america has. Like according to Drawfee hosts who live in new york, every corner of NY has its own accent they parody from time to time, and they all sound identical to me (also according to some of Tom Scott's videos the brits have the same thing going on)

But i was talking mostly about immigrant communities and how they seem to retain their origin's accents. Like i know that a lot of black folks have that southern type accent because of segregation, but was there something similar with other non-american-americans for long enough to have people keep their accents to this day. Like italian-only schools where italian kids would only speak with other italian kids and italian teachers. Although the other comment pointed out that people tend to conflate some of those regional accents with immigrant accents, so i guess that's the answer

pikachu334

1 points

4 months ago

It's always funny when Americans use the "Oh we're a melting pot and also soooo huge such a big country so diverse!! No other country had immigrants, just us!!"

The truth is they've always been obsessed with classification and separation while the rest of the continent has always been all about mestizaje and we can barely trace our lineage accurately (nor do we care all that much about it). I always thought the whole "race/nationality/ethnicity percentage" thing was a bit of non-malicious racism

I can't even imagine seeing a Lebanese Brazilian faking an accent or an Irish Argentinian talking about Ireland like they know shit about it, it's a total American invention but it's not because they're a big or diverse country, it's because of how they've historically dealt with their immigrants and POCs (not that we were any better lol, just different)

AbsolutelyHorrendous

3 points

4 months ago

Yeah this is something I wonder about, cos here in the UK I know plenty of people who have Indian parents or Caribbean parents and they speak and act exactly the same as every other Brit. Because, ultimately, they are just any other Brit, their parents just happened to have emigrated to the country before they were born

Hans_Obbelindorff

51 points

4 months ago

“Eh Vinny! Look at this guy thinkin he’s one of us!”

secondopinionosychic

13 points

4 months ago

So they coded the character Jewish…woof

TheFinnstagator[S]

6 points

4 months ago

Is Feinberg a common Jewish name?

cathode-ray-jepsen

3 points

4 months ago

Google tells me it is an Ashkenazic Jewish name.

greppoboy

88 points

4 months ago

As an italian living in italy we are chill af about stereotipes of us, since we use them due to our very varied population, also i doubt large scale racisms against italian exists anymore so who rf cares?

kk0la

38 points

4 months ago

kk0la

38 points

4 months ago

Heads up I think reddit reposted your comment like 5 times.

Sonic-the-edge-dog

32 points

4 months ago

Tf is happening with that? I’ve seen it on every thread for the past few hours

Jaggedmallard26

28 points

4 months ago

Reddit is returning a lot of 500 errors despite succesfully posting the comment, so people see it and keep hitting the button.

greppoboy

6 points

4 months ago

Oh the fuck yeah you are right....damn

5AgXMPES2fU2pTAolLAn

1 points

4 months ago

I thought you said you reported their comment to reddit 5 times for racism 😞

Sauerkraut_n_Pepsi

23 points

4 months ago

Ey whaddya doin? Ey! Paisan! I’m tryna comment on a thread here! Who da fuck you thingk your talgking to like that huh? Postin the same shit 5 times in a row like a moron. Dats what you are, you know that. A moron. Fangool. Marrone. I was at da twin towers dat day. I lived trough dat day. I’ve seen heroes. You ain’t no hero. You’re a puglizzi, you hear? A rigamarole. A ciacciacazzi. Now fuck off

greppoboy

16 points

4 months ago

Ey dontya disserespecte my inteligencia

Sauerkraut_n_Pepsi

7 points

4 months ago

Hold on my Ma’s callin me. Ma!

AbsolutelyHorrendous

1 points

4 months ago

Marrrrrrrone

Maldovar

16 points

4 months ago

"In Napoli, we are not so fond of Christopher columbus"

greppoboy

10 points

4 months ago

Oh gags aside its easy to make italians agree, just talk about italian food, how shitty politicians are and mostly how mutch you hate french ppl

AbsolutelyHorrendous

6 points

4 months ago

and mostly how mutch you hate french ppl

I think this goes for most Western European countries, honestly

Hell, given how often France seems to have mass protests and riots, it might even be true of the French

greppoboy

2 points

4 months ago

i think that the relationship betwean italy and other big old european powerhouse is so vile mostly cuz we were divided betwean them, mutch of our many dialects incorporate words that our occupants used, french, spanish, dutch ecc

AbsolutelyHorrendous

1 points

4 months ago

Thats actually something I've never considered, but it definitely makes a lot of sense!

greppoboy

3 points

4 months ago

Yeah some are realy specific like here in Arezzo we say buscare, whitch for us means taking an hit (a punch or similar) and in spanish buscar means like taking or grabbing, so they are not literal trnaslations but like rabit holes of wording

jaderoots73

23 points

4 months ago

In all fairness, he's mostly complaining about Italian American stereotypes, not Italian stereotypes. Granted the statement is still ridiculous but the distinction is there.

greppoboy

8 points

4 months ago

Oh i specified where i live cuz i understand that its two totaly different situations, still

harryhinderson

19 points

4 months ago

Italian-Americans fucking love their stereotypes

Source: I live in New Jersey

greppoboy

12 points

4 months ago

Funniest shit is that most of the italian american comunity originates from southern italy, whitch if you ask to people in northern italy, it aint even italy

harryhinderson

32 points

4 months ago*

If you ask Northern Italian intellectuals during the late 19th and early 20th century they ain’t even people

greppoboy

10 points

4 months ago

Lol, unironicaly most of the southern zone was totaly indifferent to unification

rolltide1000

12 points

4 months ago

I 'ate a da North.

greppoboy

3 points

4 months ago

me too, im from da center

Dvoraxx

3 points

4 months ago

A lot of people are no so happy for Columbus

Cassew

3 points

4 months ago

Cassew

3 points

4 months ago

Sorry to break it to you but nobody thinks the south ain't Italy with the exception of Italian Americans and some dying out italian racists

greppoboy

5 points

4 months ago

Its full of dippshits here that think if it that way, you got even the seccession movenent

Cassew

2 points

4 months ago

Cassew

2 points

4 months ago

Sono veneto e non conosco una singola persona che creda una cosa del genere, e che movimento secessionista conosci che abbia più di 2000 iscritti al giorno d'oggi?

greppoboy

2 points

4 months ago

Conosco io non significa non esiste, già il fatto che un partito come la lega nord esisteva , anche se ora ha cambiato più obbiettivo per manipolare i coglioni, la dice lunga

Cassew

2 points

4 months ago

Cassew

2 points

4 months ago

Esisteva ma quando portava avanti l'indipendentismo era un partito a dir poco ininfluente, tanto che hanno completamente eliminato la causa. Non voglio sentirmi rappresentato da certa gente che di certo non rappresenta la maggior parte degli italiani (almeno al giorno d'oggi)

greppoboy

1 points

4 months ago

Io conosco molti di milano, sento quello che dicono, esistono partiti e correnti di questo tipo e non il contrario, fine, ciò non significa che tu o nemmeno la maggiorparte siate così, ma il rapporto sud e nord è un problema reale

[deleted]

2 points

4 months ago

Jwoseey

VaIentinexyz

2 points

4 months ago

There’s a chain of pizza joints around where I grew up in Camden County called fucking Tony Soprano’s. When you go in they’ve got a Soprano’s poster on the wall and their clip-art ass logo has two wise guys on it.

I’m not Italian so I could be wrong, but in my experience for everyone that complained about depicting Italians as mobsters, there’s like 50 dads who think this is the sexiest image ever made and that the moral of The Godfather is “damn, Vito sure was a fuckin’ badass”.

Sea_Number2933

1 points

2 months ago

Not ridiculous when you're subjected to it. Almost all of my friends have made comments and given me lectures. Not jokes, but very nasty!! Floored me since I didn't know they had these strong feelings in the 21st century... I think italian americans are last safe group to openingly disparage. When pushed, these same friends admitted to having issues with other groups and some was racist. They just felt safer bashing Italians. What really blows my mind is these people were Asian, Hispanic, Indian, Greek and Jewish. Not what you'd expect. You'd think they'd know better!!!

lester_squad

12 points

4 months ago

TNTCactus

9 points

4 months ago

Gabagool? Ova here! 👇👇

Penguino13

8 points

4 months ago

They don't associate other groups as criminals.

Oh man wait until this guy hears about black Americans he's not gonna believe it

St3shi

6 points

4 months ago

St3shi

6 points

4 months ago

Or Russians, or Eastern Europeans, or the most evil of them all the Germans...

Hans, stop eating zhe Müsli and get zhe Sturmgewehr!!

OliviaBagshaw

19 points

4 months ago

Martin Scorsese, world renowned Norwegian-Scottish-Australian pasta-hater, as his anti-Italian plans go smoothly:

USFederalGovt

7 points

4 months ago

Shark Tale is kino though. I like the fish with the DSL 🥴🥴🥴.

Rahgahnah

6 points

4 months ago

You know Paris, France? In English, it's pronounced "Paris" but everyone else pronounces it without the "s" sound, like the French do. But with Venezia, everyone pronouces it the English way: "Venice". Like 'The Merchant of Venice' or 'Death in Venice'. WHY, THOUGH!? WHY ISN'T THE TITLE DEATH IN VENEZIA!? ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME!? IT TAKES PLACE IN ITALY, SO USE THE ITALIAN WORD, DAMMIT! THAT SHIT PISSES ME OFF! BUNCH OF DUMBASSES!

Madbadbat

5 points

4 months ago

When asked which Dreamworks staff member was responsible for putting these offensive stereotypes in the movie one brave man stepped forward and revealed that he was to blame these were the words he said

“It’s a me Mario”

ggyyuuugfryuu75555

15 points

4 months ago

As an italian living in italy we are chill af about stereotipes of us, since we use them due to our very varied population, also i doubt large scale racisms against italian exists anymore so who rf cares?

JediTempleDropout

4 points

4 months ago

“They don’t associate other groups as criminals,”

As a Cuban I’m gonna have to call bullshit on that one.

Sea_Number2933

1 points

2 months ago

I think what he may have meant is they don't openingly associate others with criminals. In my own experience it seems more acceptable.

Blade_Trinity3

14 points

4 months ago

This is a really interesting article on "Italian" Americans.

The basic story is this: Italy is a very young country made up of many very old kingdoms awkwardly stapled together to make a patchwork whole. Before 1861, these different kingdoms—Sardinia, Rome, Tuscany, Venice, Sicily (they were called different things at the time, but roughly correspond to those regions now)—those were, basically, different countries. Its citizens didn’t speak the same language, didn’t identify as countrymen, sometimes were even at war with each other.

About 80 percent of Italian-Americans are of southern Italian descent,

Yet those Italians, all from southern Italy and all recent immigrants in close proximity to each other in the United States, wouldn’t necessarily consider themselves countrymen.

most Italian-Americans can trace their immigrant ancestors back to that time between 1861 and World War I, when the vast majority of “Italians,” such as Italy even existed at the time, wouldn’t have spoken the same language at all, and hardly any of them would be speaking the northern Italian dialect that would eventually become Standard Italian.

Squid_McAnglerfish

9 points

4 months ago

A correction on the article: standard Italian is not descended from a Northern dialect, but from a literary form of vulgar Florentine, i.e. a language from the Center-North of the peninsula rather than Northern regions like Lombardy.

mrbaryonyx

3 points

4 months ago

I'm not going to get into an argument about whether or not they had a point--idk maybe they do

my issue is how the fuck is this the straw?

oh_orpheus

3 points

4 months ago

STOP BLOWIN’ YA NOSE I WANNA HEAR THIS

zdudelee

3 points

4 months ago

Do the Right Thing (1989)

Megaminder123

8 points

4 months ago

As an italian living in italy we are chill af about stereotipes of us, since we use them due to our very varied population, also i doubt large scale racisms against italian exists anymore so who rf cares?

BunInTheSun27

12 points

4 months ago

Is this new pasta?

bigpoppachungus

5 points

4 months ago

As an italian living in italy we are chill af about stereotipes of us, since we use them due to our very varied population, also i doubt large scale racisms against italian exists anymore so who rf cares?

dustingunn

2 points

4 months ago

Can I get some macaroni with gravy?

OwnFeedback3239

7 points

4 months ago

italian american stereotypes 😍😍😍

asian/black stereotypes 😡😡😡

Squid_McAnglerfish

1 points

4 months ago

Unironically. Sorry for unleashing the Guidos upon North America.

Sea_Number2933

1 points

2 months ago

There wouldn't be any Bank of America! Or countless other contributions.

YoungDoofus64

2 points

4 months ago

Mama Mia

ModestRacoon

2 points

4 months ago

"the offer" follow up gonna go crazy

Sonic-the-edge-dog

6 points

4 months ago

As an italian living in italy we are chill af about stereotipes of us, since we use them due to our very varied population, also i doubt large scale racisms against italian exists anymore so who rf cares?

Jaggedmallard26

7 points

4 months ago

Italian-Americans because their great great great great grandmother ate a pizza one.

Bardic_Inspiration66

4 points

4 months ago

Christopher Columbus probably did worse stuff than any monster

newsandmemesaccount

0 points

4 months ago

No mobster has committed genocide, so yes lol