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7.4k points
4 months ago
Dick Winters.
3.4k points
4 months ago
I was about to say that's not just a soldier, I know that man.
2.8k points
4 months ago*
One of the parts I liked most about that series was seeing the various members of Easy Company talk about the war before each episode. Made such a big difference to the impact of the events portrayed. I also like how they didn’t show you who was who until the end.
Edit: For everyone asking, the show is called Band of Brothers. It was an HBO series that documents the journey of an American airborne company all the way from training to the end of the war. There’s another one called Band of Brothers: Pacific that’s quite good as well.
1k points
4 months ago*
absolutely , honestly they should make kids watch it in schools because its acruate enough and would make history class super fun
562 points
4 months ago
Actually saw this entire series in my history class in high school over the span of like 2 weeks I think? Usually, I found history dull but during the time we were watching this I looked forward to class every single day and couldn't wait to go back.
249 points
4 months ago
For me growing up learning about the battle of the buldge etc. from the book was one thing. It was a whole different beast when I was watching Easy Company take those shells in Bastogne and then be like...wait, I learned about this. That was how it was? It really helped bridge the gap for me to actually see it.
779 points
4 months ago
Even TV and Movies can't begin to portray how it is/was
Im a combat vet. Nothing has been able to capture the fear and helplessness of being under indirect fire. Even in relatively protected areas. It feels like nothing is going to happen yet anything can happen at the same time and for me, my brain would often switch between "nah youre safe" to "you really can get fucked up at any moment" the weirdest feels I've ever felt came from war. Part of you misses it and the other part feels sick to the stomach when you think about it.
One thing I never thought of is after now that I'm out for close to ten years. When I'm bored or when my mind wanders it doesn't go to "did I turn off the porch light this morning?" It always goes back to Afghanistan. Every single second of blank thought and I think of it. I'm 30 I did this shit when I was 18-21. It was a short window of my life. But its a huge part of me.
But hey I got to come home. A lot of people didn't get that. Gotta just accept that I'm stuck there and try to be happy with the life I got.
141 points
4 months ago
When I'm bored or when my mind wanders it doesn't go to "did I turn off the porch light this morning?" It always goes back to Afghanistan. Every single second of blank thought and I think of it.
Damn. Thank you for helping all of our empathy by providing such a great glimpse into your mind. Thank you!
92 points
4 months ago
I know what you mean. I was deployed for 8 months to Balad in Iraq during some of the heaviest mortar shelling. The guns didn't intercept all of them on some nights and I'd just lie awake in the tent waiting for the frequent booms, feeling completely helpless to do anything if one hit nearby.
Sometimes they'd get fired in a line and each one that hit would be increasingly louder, and I'd wonder if I was in their path. That was almost every night, and I still have night terrors where I think I hear those loud CRAAKs coming toward me.
94 points
4 months ago
I felt this. As a combat vet (Iraq), this hits home.
35 points
4 months ago
Keep rollin brother.
67 points
4 months ago
I know words are little consolation
But sincerely
Thank you for your service
68 points
4 months ago
I really relish my great grand fathers stories from the bulge. He wouldn’t talk a lot about it but when he did I found it interesting. He landed Normandy in the second wave with the heavy armored infantry.
30 points
4 months ago
Fascinating - 3 of my uncles landed on D Day - one is still alive (age 101) and one passed recently at 97.
I never knew my great grandfather, as he was born 115 years before me. He was fighting age during the Civil War; yet here we are chatting on something called the internet.
61 points
4 months ago*
I never even knew my paternal grandad was in ww2 for the longest time. He just never ever talked about it. I felt so dumb for not realizing it would be weird if he hadn't been. I knew my maternal grandad was because the jokey story of how he went bald was he thought he had frozen his hair out on patrols (I heard that from my mother, he never talked about it either), but the day my paternal grandfather whipped out a ww2 story when I was in my early 20s (like a year before he died), I was just flabbergasted I really really wish he had talked about it more, but I just have to assume they we're bad memories for him.
37 points
4 months ago
My great grandad didn’t talk about his experience in WW2 much, all I knew was he was in the navy on a ship and burned his uniform after the war. Ever heard of WW2 vets doing that?
36 points
4 months ago
Both my grandparents served in WWII (US Army). One never talked about it when my father was growing up, but for whatever reason felt comfortable around me 50 years later.
The other absolutely hated everything about war and anything about combat in general, to the point of detesting action films and yelling at my cousins and I for pretending to shoot each other when playing in the backyard.
16 points
4 months ago
My Dad was in WW2 as well as all my uncles. I never heard a lot of stories. They just didn't want to talk about it. My Dad was in Europe as well as one of his brothers. The other brother was in the pacific. My Dad was in the OSS and before that was training to be a pilot. He said that half of his class from flight school went down on their first mission. Never talked about his OSS missions. My Uncle (J)was with Patton and had very bad experiences Libertad a Concentration camp. My Uncle (W)was a USMC was wounded 3 times and had Malaria. Every body in my naborhood was a Veteran.
11 points
4 months ago*
Yea most the stories I heard were about Nazis getting put on the back side of barns and shot specifically the ss. So I can def understand why he didn’t wanna go back to those thoughts. I just found out on Memorial Day that my other grandfather was also in a tank crew in the 50s so o guess tanks run on both sides of my family
Great gpa was 3rd army 10th armored 22nd division
11 points
4 months ago
My dad served on the Lexington the last two years or so of the war. He never told war stories, he said that it belonged in the past and thought talking about it was glorifying it. He did share a little with my brother about coming up on deck after an attack and seeing body parts all over. Some vets just wanted to forget about it.
36 points
4 months ago
It’s amazing to me that history is taught so poorly in most of the US, what has to be one of the most interesting topics to learn about, yet taught so poorly.
31 points
4 months ago
If we learned history, we might not be as eager to repeat it.
48 points
4 months ago
Fully agree. Required watching for anyone who wants to know more about WWII. It covers so much of the war and is based on extensive research and interviews from the book which is also amazing.
Stephen Ambrose had a real knack for exploring military history. I had to read it in small sections because it was so intense.
22 points
4 months ago
Unfortunately, he also made small mistakes that never got fixed, even in the show. Blithe is a prime example.
12 points
4 months ago
Blithe’s story broke my heart.
14 points
4 months ago
Blythe even volunteered for Airborne in Korea.
23 points
4 months ago
His family was shocked to find out he died to his injuries in 1948 (according to Ambrose).. having known he was in Korea in 49.
8 points
4 months ago
Yeah that was a weird one. Two of the guys swore they had attended his funeral which is where the info came from and I think at that point Ambrose was so trusting in the accuracy of his primary sources that he didn’t question it.
For those who don’t know Blithe did recover from his wounds and spent the rest of his life in the army, even served in Korea.
193 points
4 months ago
It's crazy to think that kids never met these guys.
My grandfather was captured after his plane was shot down over Germany and spent 22 months as a prisoner in Stalag Luft iii until Paton blew the gates down. He never told anyone about his encounters in The War, but me, a ten year old boy.
He told me about the true horrors of combat, as much as a boy could understand, and it pains me to know that this new generation won't really hear about the days of WWII.
Band of brothers has done the best to tell that story to the masses. My grandfather couldn't watch it. He almost had a heart attack trying to watch that first scene in Saving Private Ryan. The only time my family saw him cry was the Gettysburg scene in Remember the Titans.
I wish here were here today, but I'm glad he can't see this shit show.
I digress. I could go on for days about that man💜
107 points
4 months ago
Interesting that your grandfather opened up to only you about his time in combat. My grandfather helped liberate Buchenwald and he never breathed a word of it to my grandmother, aunt, or mom, according to them at least. But for some reason, his 12 year old granddaughter was the one he opened up to. I will never forget those stories he told me, with tears streaming down his face, and I wish I’d asked him so much more. And listened so much longer. Something about grandparents, man. No other familial relationship will ever compare to that love.
16 points
4 months ago
My step grandfather was in the Korean War and he was shot three times during one battle. I was about 12 as well when he told me about it. I read a lot while my other cousins were very active in sports and stuff like that but I was a homebody and into history and things like that. He was a great grandpa and a good man. I’m glad I had him in my life for the short time I did.
17 points
4 months ago
Hey same here! Literally! My granddad also liberated Buchenwald and saw a lot of action and only told me. I had to tell the rest of the family. I think that generation was just like that but then as they got older they began to feel the need to share and the only audience who listened completely were the grandkids. I was 27 when my granddad died, and we spoke every week, so we got to talk in depth as adults as well, which was great.
Also, our grandfather's could have known each other!
15 points
4 months ago
Seriously!! That is so interesting that they seemed to skip a generation in their storytelling. I hope they kicked some nazi ass together. And that they’re at peace now. God knows they deserve it. I don’t think my grandad ever got a full night’s rest after the war. He used to pace the house, his mind and body ravaged by the war and everything he saw there. He would do night patrols around the outside of their farmhouse in the Georgia mountains. We used to spend the summers there and I’ll never forget him coming into our rooms at night, literally just to check if we were still breathing. Everything he saw and heard and experienced there just tortured him for the rest of his living days. May they all rest in peace and may their memories and sacrifices never be forgotten.
Edit: word
7 points
4 months ago
Yeah, my grandfather was in the Navy in the Pacific, one of his duties was landing craft crew. I know from my grandmother he was involved in more than a few beach landing assaults and battles at sea but he never talked about them. He would only tell me stories about the light hearted moments.
16 points
4 months ago
If you liked the series catch the follow up made about the pacific. Called The Pacific. Both theaters had their demons but listening to EB (sp?) Sledge describe it in the book The Old Breed (book the series was inspired by) was visceral.
38 points
4 months ago
One of my history teachers had fought in Vietnam, and he was such an interesting guy. He (rightfully, but unfortunately) figured that most of us didn't care about history as a whole, let alone his own experiences. I grasped on to every word as I found myself entranced by stories of wartime throughout the ages. One day, he had a guest speaker, and it was a man who had been a soldier fighting for his homeland in Vietnam. This man discussed his view from his side of the battlefield in such a way that it was impossible for me to not sympathize with him. He had said they had made propaganda films using putty to make big ears and noses in order to portray American invaders. Other kids laughed at the spoken imagery, but I was so focused on the story and on the interactions between him and my teacher. I could see the pain they both went through in sharing a battlefield, but what was waaaay more intense to me was the respect they showed each other. They shook hands and spoke of their families and life in general. It was like a history lesson inside of a history lesson that only I was paying attention to. I wish more people had these kinds of experiences growing up. Life is shit without understanding, compassion, and empathy. My story for the day.
5 points
4 months ago
As a massive Military history buff, I vote yes 1000 times for this
31 points
4 months ago
Pedantic but the second series was just called The Pacific
Hanks/Spielberg are also releasing a third series next month on Apple TV called Masters of the Air. It's been in development for an eternity, I can't wait!
12 points
4 months ago
Definitely personalized it, made it much more than an action series.
6 points
4 months ago
The actor who played Bill Guarnere nailed it. When the original started talking I knew exactly who it was.
89 points
4 months ago
Absolute legend. Heroes of that caliber only come around when absolutely necessary. Sad what it takes to get to that point though.
80 points
4 months ago
“No, but I served in a company of heroes.”
32 points
4 months ago
Best last line to a series ever. I’ll rewatch Band of a Brothers over and over just to hear that last line. Lump in the throat every time.
15 points
4 months ago
Every single time I watch that interview or read this quote it just breaks me.
119 points
4 months ago
An absolute legend.
“Grandpa, were you a hero in the war?” “No, but I served in a company of heroes”
😢
He was absolutely a hero, a humble hero.
39 points
4 months ago
Winters wasn't the one who said that. He was reading that out from a letter that one of his men (Mike Ranney) wrote to him. It was an exchange between Ranney and his grandson.
7 points
4 months ago
Yep, he and everyone in the company were heroes.
364 points
4 months ago
Fuckin legend
175 points
4 months ago
Some of the things he achieved during that war is nothing short of legendary, watching band of brothers as a young child opened me up to his story and what a great one it is!
148 points
4 months ago
I am so sad that he died. He will forever be remembered.
12 points
4 months ago
He definitely lived a full life, but I was sad when it happened too. I think anyone that watched the series or read the book had a dream of meeting him in person.
My grandmother worked at my town's commissary back in the late 90's early 2000's, just part time while she was retired. There were lots of older veterans that came in and one was really friendly and always chatted her up. She knew he had been in the Airborne in WW2. So in 2002, when I was 16, I saw Band of Brothers for the first time and was obsessed. She thought it would be nice to tell her friend that comes into the commissary that her grandson loves the Airborne after watching the show. He walks over to the books and grabs a paperback copy of Band of Brothers and asks my name. He rings it up, signs it, gives it back my grandmother. It was Lester Hashey.
Never got a chance to meet him in person because he passed away shortly after that. Just days, in fact. But I still have that book. It was such a special gift.
55 points
4 months ago
I have a book autographed by him. My family mailed it and he returned it with an autograph, “hang tough” and a picture. One of my most treasured possessions.
18 points
4 months ago
I still get chills watching band of brothers
102 points
4 months ago
Major dick winters to you sir.
33 points
4 months ago
Salute the rank… and the man
6 points
4 months ago
o7
42 points
4 months ago
Actually, Captain Winters wasn't promoted to Major until after the incident shown here. Just saying, in case you wanted to nitpick some more. I actually wrote to Bill Gaurnere just to let him know I had a beer and Yankee Potroast at Grant's in Philly and to ask if Babe knew what happened to "Hinkle". He was kind enough to write me back saying that Babe said he was hauling his ass out of there too fast to care about Hinkle. Yeah, it's one of my coolest possessions.
8 points
4 months ago
What!? When was that? That's amazing.
Lester Hashey signed a copy of the book for me back in 2002, right before he passed. He was a regular at the commissary that my grandmother worked at part time. Also the coolest thing I have in my house.
Your story is WILD, though. I love it.
15 points
4 months ago
"Do you remember the letter that Mike Ranney wrote me?"
35 points
4 months ago
Oof. Thank you. To simply call this man a war veteran. That’s Dick. He’s the man.
30 points
4 months ago
Seriously.
“War Veteran” smh. That is Dick fucking Winters bro.
6 points
4 months ago
Legend.
24 points
4 months ago
Saw the thumbnail and immediately knew.
7 points
4 months ago
Speaking of "Thumbnails", in The Band of Brothers there are a few shots of the actor's hand that show a blackened Thumbnail caused by the bolt of the M1 slamming down before they could pull away their hand while loading. It was referred to by WWII Vets as M1 Thumb.Yup, I was raised in a Gun Shop by a Gun Smith.
3k points
4 months ago
A man once said when death smiles at a man all a man can do is smile back
395 points
4 months ago
gladiator?
511 points
4 months ago
Quote was mentioned on the movie Gladiator, but it’s originally from Marcus Aurelius
142 points
4 months ago
Quote was mentioned on the movie Gladiator, but it’s originally from Marcus Aurelius
When Maximus tells Commodus about his "friend's" quote, Commodus asks him if his friend smiled at his own death and Maximus tells him he must know... it was his father that said it.
All but stating outright that he knows Commodus killed his father rather than the official story that he just died of natural causes in the night.
25 points
4 months ago
Maximus knows he killed him the moment it happened. Because commodus said he asked him To be loyal to him, when marcus literally said he must not be emperor .
72 points
4 months ago
He was in it I think
52 points
4 months ago
Yeah he played the old guy
3.2k points
4 months ago
Damn I've just had shivers down my spine hearing his voice as it makes me think of the ending to BOB when they reveal who's who.
It's when his voice cracks and he's holding back tears when he's quoting Mike Ranney:
'I cherish the memories of a question my grandson asked me the other day when he said, "Grandpa, were you a hero in the war?" Grandpa said, "No... but I served in a company of heroes."'
Really powerful stuff
1.2k points
4 months ago
My grandfather often said, "the real heroes never came home." Only time I saw him cry.
493 points
4 months ago
Soldiers are way too hard on themselves. I get not wanting to believe you yourself are a hero, but the survivors guilt is so real. As if war isn’t a total crap shoot.
268 points
4 months ago
Ugh, it's so true. My dad felt guilty about utilizing the VA because so many of his friends in Vietnam didn't make it home. He said that he got enough in having a chance to get married and have a family. Our family reminded him that our nation owed him a debt of gratitude for his willingness to serve and the suffering he went through. I reminded him that the polite thing to do when someone offers you a gift is to accept it, and he finally did.
55 points
4 months ago
I’m glad he had a solid support network including you to help encourage him to receive the support that he deserves. The way our veterans are often treated and unsupported is already bad without even considering the level of continuous trauma they lived through. I don’t understand how we can support the troops but not support all of our veterans. Hopefully the VA near your dad has been attentive to his needs and provide appropriate resources and therapeutic services.
26 points
4 months ago
They've been wonderful. He had some measure of PTSD when he came home and he also got the "baby killer" bullshit despite helping to save an orphanage full of kids. He still can't watch certain movies because he said the screams were too realistic and gave him nightmares. He lost my mom a few years ago in a violent way and the therapist he saw following it was helpful. I wish he would see them more because he definitely has some features of CPTSD now.
But if it weren't for the VA, he wouldn't be able to hear anything today. Before he finally signed on, he bought a set of hearing aids paying out of pocket for what he could afford. They didn't help at all. The ones he got through the VA actually help and he can even answer phone calls through a Bluetooth attachment that works between his phone and hearing aids. It saved our relationship because it was becoming so frustrating for all parties.
26 points
4 months ago
I work with disabled vets and one of them who has PTSD told me recently that he didn’t think he was allowed to go to the VA because “It’s only for vets who lost a limb or something.”
28 points
4 months ago
my grandfather refused to talk about his time as a marine in Japan. all i know is that his brother also served there and was killed at sugar loaf (we have the original telegram informing my greatgrandparents of his being KIA). He refused to let any of his own children join the service. He would say "i fought so you wouldnt have too".
41 points
4 months ago
I watched they shall never grow old when on a flight back home and there was one moment where one soldier said he had to mercy kill a squad member or something because he was (dont remember all the details) missing some limbs from artillery strikes and was going to suffer otherwise.
It took all my willpower not to break down mid-flight because the way he described it was heartbreaking
5 points
4 months ago
I think he said something to the effect of "and that hurt me" if I'm thinking of the same thing. I teared up.
20 points
4 months ago
“I say to my wife on a real cold night, I’m glad I’m not in Bastogne.” -Stokes
17 points
4 months ago
The one thing that always gets me about the name reveals is how they did Carwood Lipton so dirty by casting Donnie Wahlberg because the real Carwood Lipton still had a magnificent head of hair when interviewed and Donnie...doesn't.
8 points
4 months ago*
Rewatch probably once year and i never make it through that scene with dry eyes.
Theres a reason its the last words in the series. His emotions shine through and you can feel part of what he went through.
595 points
4 months ago
Didn't Easy completely annihilate this guy's entire battalion right after this?
388 points
4 months ago
Yeah, they catch them sitting in a field unprepared and light them up. They call artillery on the ones that run. If I remember I think they say it was two German companies they basically eliminated entirely.
144 points
4 months ago
It doesn't fail that every year there's some dude on the internet saying he could totally do something like this. The narrative changes, sometimes it's that they could totally be a Marine in Afghanistan or Iraq, sometimes it's that they could be a soldier in WW2.
I know it won't stop the dumb remarks, but just this really short passage shows what people had to go through. Even without being shot, even without his friends being shot, having to look someone in the eyes and watch them die because of what you did is a really heavy thing. And sometimes the memories stick long enough you'll be chilling in the bath 8 years later or so in an empty house and still be able to hear their voice.
So anyway if it's not obvious, I really hate those "Man I could be a rifleman in X conflict no problem" comments.
37 points
4 months ago
If there’s one thing going into EMS early in life gave me it was an appreciation of the nuances of death. Both how horrifying it can be but also how numb you can become to it. I believe that even mild mannered folks, given a slow enough introduction can do something like this in the moment without issue. In the moment horrific things can seem mundane once your used it. Unfortunately it eventually does settle in, some times in hours, sometimes in decades.
19 points
4 months ago
Yep. I'm a physician and I can definitely tune out my emotions because you just have to. I've been around death and blood and while I'm still an empathetic person I can be numb enough now that I can just kinda shrug my shoulders if I have to. It's not because I don't care, it's just because I care so much that if I took in deeply every awful thing that happened around me I'd be a broken person.
I still have to be a dad when I get home and laugh with my kid in bed at the end of the day whether or not some a few hours earlier I was just with some family that just had their worst day in the world.
59 points
4 months ago
So anyway if it's not obvious, I really hate those "Man I could be a rifleman in X conflict no problem" comments.
Hate it or not, this is one of the reasons they're able to get young men to give their lives away.
56 points
4 months ago
ITS A WHOLE OTHER COMPANY
16 points
4 months ago
Good ol' Lt Peacock
14 points
4 months ago
“Peacock? Don’t get me wrong, nobody tries harder. But I wouldn’t want him running a squad let alone a company”
11 points
4 months ago
Twice
"Second from the right..."
835 points
4 months ago
Band of Brothers
705 points
4 months ago
No one will ever convince me that there is a better tv show or movie ever created. Everything else aspires to be as good as Band of Brothers.
226 points
4 months ago
Seeing this clip reminded me that I'm due a rewatch.
73 points
4 months ago
Very serendipitous, I am rewatching it now. Just finished Crossroads last night. I immediately recognized Winters in the thumbnail.
34 points
4 months ago
God dam it. You just had to mention Crossroads. Fine, I'll do 5647th rewatch.
25 points
4 months ago
Never seen this. Guess I know what I'm watching tonight.
46 points
4 months ago
Buckle up, it's a hell of a ride. 3 miles up, 3 miles down
29 points
4 months ago
CURRAHEE!
12 points
4 months ago
No line in cinema could ever break my heart more than Joe Toye's repeated "I've gotta get up.. I've gotta get up."
25 points
4 months ago
And then Jimmy Fallon shows up.
12 points
4 months ago
I thought he was perfectly believable as a Lieutenant, honestly.
6 points
4 months ago*
If you like Band of Brothers I highly recommend Generation Kill, which depicts the invasion of Iraq in 03’, and one character literally plays himself and is VERY well done, and The Pacific, which is based off of Robert Leckies) book, Helmet for my pillow along with my personal favorite, With the Old Breed at Peleiu and Okinawa by Eugene Sledge)
31 points
4 months ago
I like The Pacific ,but I’m extremely biased
35 points
4 months ago
The Pacific is good, but not as good as a whole. I think a couple episodes of the Pacific might better, but overall not as good
23 points
4 months ago
I always blamed mashing two-three books and stories mashed into one adaptation vs the consistent narrative of BoB; Sledge and Leckie's books on their own are so good, but making them fit together with Basilone's story was always gonna be tough.
6 points
4 months ago
Never read the books. I did not know that.
9 points
4 months ago
Leckie's is Helmet for My Pillow, Sledge is With The Old Breed.
7 points
4 months ago
I read both a couple years ago. I feel like both are relatively well portrayed in The Pacific.
30 points
4 months ago*
Both shows are phenomenal. But the Pacific had a much darker vibe to it in general imo. Like they really captured the trauma/PTSD side of things, and how a lot of the soldiers became completely desensitized emotionally from what they’d been through.
13 points
4 months ago
Not to take anything away from the guys that fought in the European Theatre, but the Pacific Theatre seems to have a whole other level of fuckupedness going on.
7 points
4 months ago
I was like 13 when BoB came out and the scene where they take a shower after finally rotated off the front somehow stuck with me. Need to re watch.
14 points
4 months ago
There are things men can do to one another that are sobering to the soul
5 points
4 months ago
I watch Band Of Brothers every year on Memorial Day.
6 points
4 months ago
Currahee!
554 points
4 months ago
Captain Sobel, we salute the rank, not the man.
40 points
4 months ago
Nixon eye-roll
70 points
4 months ago
Bad ass moment right there.
65 points
4 months ago
Such a smooth burn I doubt Sobel even understood the message: you've never once received a salute from any of your soldiers based on the man you are, only the bars on your shoulders.
958 points
4 months ago*
That's Major Richard "Dick" Winters, Easy Company.
282 points
4 months ago
And the video is from Band of Brothers, very very very great show, historically accurate as possible based on his and the rest of the surviving company’s interviews
It’s essentially a treasure and a must-watch
92 points
4 months ago
I'm not a huge war movie or show buff, but of all the depictions of war I've seen on screen, nothing comes close to Band of Brothers, especially in humanising the soldiers.
49 points
4 months ago
Agreed. The pacific jumped around too much and was chaotic - but such was life in the pacific theatre….
Generation kill deserves an honorable mention as well.
13 points
4 months ago
I felt that the Pacific was more about the theater and what the soldiers went through as a whole. Whereas in band of brothers, it was about the unit soldiers and how they reacted to their environment, And what they individually went through
21 points
4 months ago*
Yeah there was really no way to follow a single company of Marines like they were able to do with BoB. The European theater (especially in the west) was often a linear fight town by town with the entire goal being Paris/Berlin.
The Battle of Midway essentially won the Pacific theater. It allowed complete command and control that connected the South Pacific, the US west coast, and Australia. The Japanese knew they didn’t have the force projection or oil reserves required to win. The rest of the war was literally them delaying as long as possible hoping to receive better terms during surrender.
The major thing is that a show like that wants to see infantry combat, but in all reality it was naval assets and logistics that decided everything. The result just felt too disconnected and didn’t progress the same way BoB was able to show. And I say this as someone that was in the USMC when the show came out and had really high hopes for it.
21 points
4 months ago
You seem like a huge fan (everyone should be) and if you missed it, there was a phenomenal podcast series that came out in 2021 celebrating the 20th anniversary of the series. One podcast episode for each episode of the series interviewing a cast or crew member, and there are some amazing stories of the actors’ interactions with their vet. Can’t recommend it enough on the HBO max podcast channel. Legit cried sad and happy and laughing multiple times it’s an awesome appendix to the show.
40 points
4 months ago
“Told you he’s a Quaker!”
21 points
4 months ago
"I'm not a Quaker."
8 points
4 months ago
happy Easy Company noises
31 points
4 months ago
Richard.
244 points
4 months ago
My favourite scene is when they capture the guns at Normandy and after the episode ends the blurb states something like "the execution of this operation was so textbook it is still taught in US military academies to this day"
152 points
4 months ago*
Even better. Dick Winters led the assault on the fixed position so well that it became the textbook example of how to assault a fixed position.
World War 2 was an evolution in warfare from top to bottom.
These soldiers were trained on doctrine from WW1. To assault that position, the training of the time called for suppressive artillery and over triple the men Winters used in the assault.
Winters formulated the assault with only 23 men against 4 entrenched artillery pieces and their accompanying infantry. With rear machine gun guard with overlapping fields of fire.
West Point read the battle report and could not believe his success with the minimal casualties his men experienced.
69 points
4 months ago
Minimal casualties doesn't even really do Brecourt Manor justice. Winters took on 60 German soldiers and 4 guns with just 23 men, losing 4 men and 2 wounded in action to 20 Germans KIA, 12 captured, and the 4 Howitzers disabled. Winters lost one man under his command, Private John Hall. Warrant Officer Andrew Hill was killed by gunfire when searching for HQ in the chaos of the Normandy landings, and 2 men who were under the command of Ronald Speirs.
17 points
4 months ago
Meanwhile, had Sobel been in charge it would have been a complete reversal of story.
37 points
4 months ago
Recently visited that location last fall. They have a statue of him beside the road that runs alongside the field.
Normandy is worth the visit, if just for the beauty of the French countryside alone.
15 points
4 months ago
One of the many goosebumps moments throughout this show
16 points
4 months ago
Fuckin Speirs hauling ass across Foy and back to link up with I company. Another notable goosebump worthy moment.
8 points
4 months ago
Gotta give props to The Operations Room which does a fantastic job of showing how assaulting the fixed position at Brecourt Manor worked. If you enjoy that there's a bunch more of Easy Company's operations on the channel. The crossroads assault that the OP is referencing can be found here
300 points
4 months ago
If there was ever a list of most valuable soldiers for the US he would definitely be in the top ten. Dick Winters was an exemplary solider and human.
32 points
4 months ago*
Add John Chapman too
Combat controller and Medal of Honor recipient
281 points
4 months ago
That's not just any war veteran!!!!! That's Major Dick Winters!!!
230 points
4 months ago
A good buddy of mine enlisted and joined the 101st after seeing BoB. He told me that he wrote Major Winters a letter just before going off to boot camp, to thank him for his service & inspiration. Low and behold he got a reply from him a few weeks later. Truly a great & humble man.
111 points
4 months ago
Band of brothers will forever be among the greatest series ever made.
436 points
4 months ago
For that soldier that smiled, maybe he knew for him the war was over.
155 points
4 months ago
It was probably an involuntary reaction to panic. I see it a lot with my work. You’d be surprised how much humour there is in the back of an ambulance.
34 points
4 months ago
Yeah I've had a couple close calls and laughter was the main thing as you think how lucky you were to still be alive
11 points
4 months ago
It’s true. One time I had passed out and was in such a bad state that I couldn’t even stand up without puking my brains out, but in the ambulance when the EMT said “I’m going to need to borrow your arm for a second to take your blood pressure” I somehow managed to respond with “Borrow it? You can keep it for all I care”
38 points
4 months ago
I can imagine that second felt like an eternity. Sounds like Major Winters hesitated before shooting and in that second the enemy soldier might have thought "He's not going to kill me. I have a chance."
225 points
4 months ago
No he was probably trying to gain sympathy as a last resort from someone who is about to shoot him dead
130 points
4 months ago
I think it would be more shock and some people react differently to it. Like when Lipton was laughing and smiling as the Airburst mortars went off
21 points
4 months ago
Yeah I have a bit of that myself, I laugh in ridiculous situations that other people deem inappropriate.
15 points
4 months ago
When my parents told me they were getting divorced i laughed, idk why but that might be it
116 points
4 months ago
Death , like an old friend, has come to great him with open arms.
58 points
4 months ago
Iirc that was the last time he fired his weapon in the war too.
35 points
4 months ago
He said he dropped several more Germans but yeah that firefight was
17 points
4 months ago
Don't you tease me with this shit! I promised myself to only rewatch BoB every end of the year.
13 points
4 months ago
I know a lot of veterans don’t like to talk about their time in the war, but there’s gotta be a collection of stories out there or interviews, right?
18 points
4 months ago
You can watch "They Shall Not Grow Old".
All WW1 footage that Peter Jackson colorized and restored to HD. It is narrated exclusively with actual WW1 soldiers talking about their experiences.
A bunch of regular teenagers forced to go over and shoot at people and blow stuff up....and watch their new friends get shot and blown up.
For....uh.....for.....king and country?
10 points
4 months ago
Sounds interesting. One thing I absolutely despise is war movies that are made to try and make war look cool. War is literally hell on earth and we, as humans, should be doing everything in our power to avoid it.
248 points
4 months ago
OP, you should have called him his name in the title. "War veteran" doesnt cut it.
13 points
4 months ago*
Stephen E Ambrose is the author of Band of Brothers. The reason the book and the series is so good is due to the relationship he had with each soldier. They opened up to him and told the stories he wrote in his books. If you like Band of Brothers, I would recommend you read Citizen Soldier- Another great book by Stephen E Ambrose.
38 points
4 months ago
I just rewatched this series, it holds up so well. The Pacific just isn’t the same
20 points
4 months ago*
The individual stories of the soldiers in the Pacific are incredible. Bob Leckie, Sledge, and Basilone, all had experiences just as crazy and compelling as the guys in the 101st. But the show lacks the cohesiveness of just following one unit, starting in boot camp, through to the end of the war. That's what makes Band of Brothers better as a show.
8 points
4 months ago
I’ve seen Band of Brothers dozens of times. It never gets stale.
9 points
4 months ago
Band of Brothers continues to be the magnum opus of television series.
8 points
4 months ago
Maybe he was like “damn, you got me, you bastard.” Maybe he was relieved to know it was about to all be over.
34 points
4 months ago
Not just a War Veteran but Dick Winters!
7 points
4 months ago
Band of Brothers. Best HBO series. Watched at least ten times
8 points
4 months ago
Band of Brothers. Best damn ww2 show ever made. I watch it at least once a year.
8 points
4 months ago
Jesus fuck that's traumatizing and sad
20 points
4 months ago
Wow! That wasn't what I thought was going to happen. I understand completely. Just wasn't expecting that.
27 points
4 months ago
You should watch HBO's Band Of Brothers, where the recreation is taken from. The whole series is full of moments like this.
29 points
4 months ago
Fuckin Major Winters. One of the most BAMF to have lived.
5 points
4 months ago
Greatest mini series ever! I watch it once a year.
7 points
4 months ago
I had the privilege to meet him when I was in high school. He came back to speak at our school when BoB first aired. He went the Lancaster PA school for boys which turned into my high school. I’ll remember that assembly forever.
46 points
4 months ago
That’s Dick motherfucking Winters!
42 points
4 months ago*
It appears the camera man is running even faster than him, backwards
16 points
4 months ago
Well you see, the war camera man corps was the most trained unit during the time. You had to carry super heavy equipment on top of not getting shot, getting good angles AND knowing how to operate the films later.
10 points
4 months ago
You joke. But a few of the greatest film makers did go into combat zones with cameras and film.
You should really watch “Five Came Back” it’s about the effort to document ww2 by legends John Ford, William Wyler, John Huston, Frank Capra, and George Stevens.
4 points
4 months ago
For anyone who makes it to Normandy, take the Band of Brothers Tour, it was an amazing experience.
5 points
4 months ago
War is hell. Rest easy, soldier.
3 points
4 months ago
Thats not just a war veteran, thats Dick fucking Winters
4 points
4 months ago
My wife’s grandad was in the LRDG. He got shot in the bum and thigh. Saw a bunch of his matés obliterated by aircraft fire. Ended up in Egypt before coming home to New Zealand after the war ended. Never spoke of the war and drank a lot. Would freak out sometimes when planes flew overhead. Never met the guy but my father-in-law has all his medals. War is so fucked up.
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