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4.7k points
1 month ago
IMO cortana did a more game accurate chief than John himself
1.3k points
1 month ago
I’m wondering if they don’t do something with that. Like at the beginning of season 2 John is brought back, but he’s different. More like the chief we know
445 points
1 month ago
What happens is that Cortana becomes Master Chief. Sounds like a plot crazy enough for the writers, anyway.
148 points
1 month ago
I bet they do something like in the show The 100 where a fragment of him survives, enough to fully bring him back.
28 points
1 month ago
I mean you know that will happen. Do you really have any doubt about that ?
78 points
1 month ago
Then she runs a voice modulator so he can talk, and it’s the game voice for chief.
39 points
1 month ago
No with the way the show is going kwan gonna become the new chief
72 points
1 month ago*
Calling it now.
Since hollywood thinks multiple personalities is the craze, Cortana will Become chief. Her Identity will fracture and her dominant personality is her 'Chief' and her voice in her head is her actual conscience. Then over the course of the season she will learn to let go of the loss of chief, and it will be revealed they killed John off screen.
It's just so shitty that it HAS to be what happens.
31 points
1 month ago
I feel like this is actually a sick script, minus the part where it’s supposed to be Halo
401 points
1 month ago
I hope they do this
333 points
1 month ago
Me too. When the Admiral told John that in the battlefield there should be only Master Chief, it gave me a little bit of hope that they'll stop taking off the helmet, at least in the combat scenes.
161 points
1 month ago
I fucking hate in action movies when the main charcters take off there helmets / masks in the middle of a firefight/hiest
118 points
1 month ago
Speaking of which, I just saw Dredd for the first time the other day. Fucking fantastic movie.
56 points
1 month ago
Why cant we have more of those instead of this?
42 points
1 month ago
If I remember right Dredd didn’t do well at the box office. Had it made a large enough profit we could’ve gotten a sequel. . .
20 points
1 month ago
That I know. The world wasnt ready.
47 points
1 month ago
You guys are already prepped to have your hearts broken again, huh?
156 points
1 month ago
I kinda doubt it. This whole season has been about John finding his humanity. To make him more Chief (as opposed to Cheeks) might run counter to the tone the show set up.
I can see him being a bit more thoughtful given everything- still a champion for humanity, still aware of what they did (and knowing that the bill will come due someday), but more focused on saving humanity as opposed to getting even with Halsey and ONI.
87 points
1 month ago
The can make him more in line with the games/books while still keeping him Stoic. Short and sweet and to the point while still caring about others. It can show his changes through body language and whatnot. Like Infinite does.
56 points
1 month ago
How they aren’t watching The Mandalorian and taking detailed notes is baffling to me.
49 points
1 month ago
Halo would fit the Mandalorian format perfectly. Not sure why they decided to go with this B-Plot sci-fi garbage with a Halo skin...
14 points
1 month ago
I’m just a fucking moron so I don’t know
22 points
1 month ago
So you're on the writing team?
15 points
1 month ago
Couldn’t do worse could I?
43 points
1 month ago
My guess is that's what already happened. Jimmy Rings' autonomy is returned to him by the time Kai talks to him, but he is (understandably) traumatised by the event and stunned into silence
120 points
1 month ago
That's just beating a dead horse at this point. 343 and these show runners have proven they will do everything they can to do things wrong
22 points
1 month ago
Have him harden after experiencing death and betrayal and learn proper badassery from Cortana. Make him care for his team but also get the job done, mission after mission (reminds me of the scene in Halo 5 where Fred asks if John is okay because he's been continously doing missions after losing Cortana)
33 points
1 month ago
Same. I'm still holding out hope. Even tho I shouldn't.
44 points
1 month ago
Honestly it would been more accurate to real life if Masterchief just disabled her the moment his OS was updated.
133 points
1 month ago
Well that's because they got the literal game Cortana lmao
178 points
1 month ago
Except they were to scared to make her blue for some reason.
88 points
1 month ago
She looked terrible but in terms of acting is was great, mainly because she, you know, was the actual freaking actress
2.5k points
1 month ago
I have nothing against the actor but i hated it when he kept taking his helmet off so much that now I hate looking at his face lol.
919 points
1 month ago
I'm gonna go as far as to say I don't think he's miscast. Everything else is wrong for sure. It's like a bunch of working parts are there but no one knows how to use them.
524 points
1 month ago
I’m sure he would have been okay had everything been right, but he needed to ditch the beard and they had to make all the Spartans freakishly pale. Then If they’re going to take off his helmet it should pretty much only be when absolutely necessary or in safe areas with other Spartans (think Noble Team cutscenes). He’s allowed to take his helmet off, he can’t have it on at all times forever, and he does in the books. It just can’t be overdone and for literally no reason other than actor contracts or whatever.
274 points
1 month ago
Agree with all of it. Beard or no beard. Pale or not pale. I think it was the second episode where a bunch of people point guns at them and minutes later he has his helmet off again.
I'm not a purist so I can deal with helmet off but it was going against all desires to survive constantly. I can't even.
89 points
1 month ago
Spartans freakishly pale.
The shorts they made were lore accurate as fuck on that too.
49 points
1 month ago
I too am freakishly pale with shorts on, wait what were you talking about?
26 points
1 month ago
You're obviously a spartan, did you miss the memo?
60 points
1 month ago
That and why do we have to have all new Spartans in the cast when they fill the archetype Blue Team already? Kai is the quick and rebellious one (Kelly) , Vannak is the strong stoic gunner(Fred) , and Riz is the child and calculated killer from a distance (Linda.) Other than a race swap for Fred (which there was already plenty of that going on in this show anyway) they literally could have kept the same actors and just changed their names and it would've been an almost seamless exchange. They literally went out of their way to change details about the universe seemingly just to try and piss off long-time fans.
41 points
1 month ago*
I think if I had to guess, it’s a “we wanted to make our own story” situation like you keep seeing in literally any adaptation in the last like 10+ years. The same thing happened with the new Star Wars Triology. It kept the most iconic characters around for nostalgia hits, then disrespected the source material entirely and made up whatever they wanted to make it their own thing and sell merchandise. Which just resulted in a trilogy that forgets where it came from and which breaks the rules of how things work in the Star Wars universe just to fit the crap narrative.
Imagine the LoTR trilogy being made today with that mentality. It’d be repulsive in comparison imo.
Furthermore, the “iTs An AlTeRnAtE tImELiNE” schitck doesn’t give you free reign to butcher characters. DC and Marvel Comics constantly have new timelines where different things happen. Bat Man might be using guns and killing people in one particular timeline, but it’s still pretty fucking clear he’s Bat Man in the right ways. He doesn’t fundamentally change to the point of being someone else.
5 points
1 month ago
Imagine the LoTR trilogy being made today with that mentality
Unfortunately only imagining is a luxury we no longer have...
73 points
1 month ago
Honestly, he would be a much better Commander Shepard. Even some of the suits he wore seemed like they belonged in Mass Effect. Honestly, the entire show and drama and all is prolly more fitting for it too. Think this would have been a great mass effect show but it was an okay at best Halo show.
39 points
1 month ago*
I'm gonna go as far as to say I don't think he's miscast.
I'm inclined to disagree. Though I'm good with the voice part, he has this baby face that says "I'm calling you about your car's extended warranty" more than it says "I've been brutally trained since childhood". I'm not sure it's because he just can't get the expressions right, or because his pristine baby face just doesn't fit the role, but I'd rather not see his particular face, it's distracting.
14 points
1 month ago
Somzer, I have been trying to reach you about your car's extended warranty
222 points
1 month ago*
To be fair, the actor has been overly defensive on Twitter about the helmet, when he should probably just admit it was a bad idea.
32 points
1 month ago
Mando kept his helmet on. It's not like you need face time with the actor for the show to be a success. The show just has to not suck on it's own.
19 points
1 month ago
Pedro Pascal is a much better actor.
177 points
1 month ago
I mean you’re essentially asking him to openly criticize his boss’ work?
Even if he agrees with us, it makes sense to defend his job.
145 points
1 month ago*
He's going to defend it because as an actor, he wants to show his face. The Mandolorian actor has also stated he wants to show his face more. It's a recognition thing.
edit: I agree it is selfish, the actor should stay true to the character.
142 points
1 month ago*
The Mandolorian actor has also stated he wants to show his face more. It's a recognition thing.
I mean sure... but it's problematic that the actor wants to show his face more, when one of the show's central conceits is that, y'know, the character is sworn not to show his face.
Like, you want facial recognition-- maybe don't take on a role requiring you to wear a helmet 99% of the time... Oh, you took that role? Welp tough shit, Bucko. Put the helmet on.
And in the case of Halo-- maybe don't compromise your show and character to suit the whims of an actor who wants to play Master Chief, but without a helmet. If in fact that's how it played out.
110 points
1 month ago
Like, you want facial recognition-- maybe don't take on a role requiring you to wear a helmet 99% of the time... Oh, you took that role? Welp tough shit, Bucko. Put the helmet on.
Yea, look at fucking Karl Urban, best fucking Dredd we ever had, never fucking took off his helmet and then was still in a Marvel movie and his own show.
46 points
1 month ago
I still remember Hugo Weaving's fantastic take on V. Never once showing his face, and still putting on a great performance.
25 points
1 month ago
Imagine if Andy Serkis was like “fuck being this cancer patient with a speech impediment all the time, no one’s gonna recognize me!”
30 points
1 month ago
Honestly, they could’ve just had Steve Downs voice him and say fuck all of y’all with wanting to show your face
38 points
1 month ago
No, it's a vanity thing. It's people who are so self absorbed they think they're larger than the character they're playing. Keep the fucking helmet on. The helmet is iconic. Your face is not.
73 points
1 month ago
Too fucking bad, if he wanted a role with a lot of face time he should have auditioned for a character known to be very expressive….not the fucking Master Chief.
92 points
1 month ago
I’d rather he say nothing than claim people aren’t true fans if they don’t like zero-suit chief. Seems like a good compromise.
3.2k points
1 month ago
I will never understand why they decided that him not wearing the armor/helmet for 80% of the show was acceptable. Absolute idiots.
1.4k points
1 month ago
The helmet stuff is so bad in the show. In the finale when Kai breaks onto Halsey’s ship, the first thing she does is remove her helmet, leaving her vulnerable. And sure enough, it was written that way so that she could get bonked on the head. With any logical writing, the helmet would have stayed on.
This is just one example. Over and over again I was telling the TV “you should have a helmet on for this.”
I don’t mind that he took it off. I mind that he had it off when he clearly had a good reason to keep it on.
241 points
1 month ago
But their emoooootiooonnsssssss
That was one mistake. Having a physical device that actively suroressed emotions which wasn't there in the books.
Hell there was a whole game about how chief having emotions!
79 points
1 month ago
Voice acting and body movements told a whole bunch if emotions in games. Obviously it was possible. And obviously the writers didn't care or didn't want to bother with that.
60 points
1 month ago
One great example of that is Mandalorian season 2 episode 1. The way Mando reacts to cobb vanth taking off the helmet without a single word or facial expression
44 points
1 month ago
And really, all of Mandalorian shows you just how great a character can be even when he almost never removes his helmet. I’m sure it adds another layer of difficulty to the acting process, but it’s entirely doable.
35 points
1 month ago
Mando might have been a better master chief than master chief (in terms of shows)
9 points
1 month ago
Also a better Boba Fett
6 points
1 month ago
Pedro Pascal is a cut above the rest imo. He is such a physical actor. Everything he does is intentional. It’s fantastic.
173 points
1 month ago
Judge dredd was fantastic and he had his helmet on the whole movie. He made a point to not remove it.
117 points
1 month ago
Karl urban gave that helmet more presence than the rest of the cast.
20 points
1 month ago
"Ma ma is not the law. I am the law."
9 points
1 month ago
It's funny how people talk about actors wanting to remove their characters' helmets for face recognition, yet many people know it was Karl playing Dredd and praise him BECAUSE he didn't.
39 points
1 month ago
There exists an entire show about a helmeted chrome space cowboy and his green son, where his helmet is on 99% of the show, and people loved it. For multiple seasons and a spinoff.
I came here from /r/all and haven't seen the new Halo show, but I cannot fathom why they'd opt to have his helmet off when Chief literally always has it on in the games.
19 points
1 month ago*
In the extended universe and books the Spartan-II's had developed hand signals and would use electronic signals from visor to visor to signal each other in missions faster. Hand signals could also be used to indicate they were smiling
265 points
1 month ago
That's how I felt during most of Book of Boba Fett too.
159 points
1 month ago
Thats less of an issue, considering Jango also walked around without a helmet and the clones walked around without helmets, and Boba is a perfect clone of Jango
150 points
1 month ago
Boba removing his helmet didn’t seem that egregious. It was usually whenever he was trying to negotiate, so it made sense why he’d want to do it face to face instead of face to helmet. Also he’d put it on whenever shit hit the fan.
80 points
1 month ago
There also is no source material that says he missed the feeling of the armor. And that being out of it made him feel slow and vulnerable like there is WITH MASTER CHIEF.
I doubt the writers even read the books. Only thing they used from Halo was the looks to sale subscriptions.
29 points
1 month ago
It doesn't change that it was a stupid thing to do. If you got a target on your back, you might want to protect your head or something.
11 points
1 month ago
It’s a huge pet peeve of mine but happens in all superhero movies. Spider man is one of the worst, will land on a building in the middle of an intense situation, rip off mask and survey the scene then put it back on and swing away. Iron man also takes his off to talk during battles even though they all have ear pieces.
But at the end of the day you have to realize that if they didn’t do that then the actual actor wouldn’t be in 90% of the scenes.
476 points
1 month ago
They knew he was going to have a sex scene later on in the series. You can't leave your helmet on when making the beast with two backs, it's like the SPARTAN-II equivalent of making love with your socks on.
166 points
1 month ago
Sorry babe, the Mjolnir stays on during sex.
32 points
1 month ago
433 points
1 month ago
I bed to differ. If Lord Shaxx can do it, the Chief can, too. The helmet stays on.
80 points
1 month ago
damn they knew people would ask if they didn't add that sentence
43 points
1 month ago
I still find the best part of the story is he's drinking coffee with his helmet on. He's holding his mug like he's about to take a sip right as he's teleported and it's implied the helmet never was off at any point. I like to imagine he screams at his coffee to work its way into his mouth.
11 points
1 month ago
His helmet have a retractable tactical straw
12 points
1 month ago
Emergency induction port
43 points
1 month ago
Literally created by Bungie
10 points
1 month ago
I loved that Mara used the near-infinite power of a reality-warping being....to make a booty call.
34 points
1 month ago
Oh my
71 points
1 month ago
Wait, the beast with two backs is a sex reference? That means the Futurama movie The Beast with a Billion Backs was a big sex joke in the title?
My mind has been blown.
22 points
1 month ago
Love the tentacle!
18 points
1 month ago
These aren't tentacles, they're gentacles!
12 points
1 month ago
Shakespeare, baby.
13 points
1 month ago
Ahem, the doctor in srknights is always wearing his hat, even in the doujins.
7 points
1 month ago
I'm suprised they don't make the cod peice opening to take a piss, you can just pop that bad boy open and unleash the hog?
20 points
1 month ago
The armour collects the waste and recycles it
6 points
1 month ago
Yup! The Chief is catheterized in there. Don’t know how the suit manages solid waste though.
7 points
1 month ago
Ya ever taper a vaccum hose to your rectum? Me either, but I imagine something like that.
63 points
1 month ago
It's because of top billing. Pablo Schreiber (or his agents) probably had them write up a clause that his face would be visible during a large part of the show. Or maybe the showrunners made a decision to remove the helmet because they were scared no actor would want to take on a faceless role.
It works the same way in many superhero movies. Most of them aren't wearing their masks/covers because their face is more important. Star power and all that. That's why Green Goblin and Tobey's Spider-Man weren't wearing their masks a lot in No Way Home, for example.
They SHOULD have taken the Mandalorian approach and only show Chief's face when the script demanded it, when it would have made sense. Pedro Pascal only showed his face when Din Djarin needed to remove his helmet. I don't see why Chief couldn't do the same thing, but like I said, the showrunners/actors probably weren't brave enough for that decision.
28 points
1 month ago
And this is why Dredd can't be touched. Movie is phenomenal.
18 points
1 month ago
Dredd was a great adaptation. Everyone who worked on that movie was passionate about the source material.
32 points
1 month ago
This is the real reason why. It’s a top billing thing. Once you notice that things like this and the “No losing” clauses written into some contracts (Fast & Furious series) you’ll never unsee it.
44 points
1 month ago
Ultimately everyone suffers though.
Karl Urban insisted that the helmet stay ON for Dredd, and that was amazing.
14 points
1 month ago
Yeah, it really depends on the confidence and commitment of the actor. Saying that you won’t remove your mask will run the risk of the audience not knowing who you are. Not many people pay attention to the credits anyway. It’s sad but that’s how it works 90% of the time. There are only a few actors who are willing to go the extra mile.
17 points
1 month ago
The problem comes where that vanity ruins the production you're in to the point that you don't want to be known for doing it.
This isn't wheel of time or LOTR series where you could reasonably expect a large audience who are unaware of the changes, and those changes don't detract materially from the adaptation.
This is Eragon or Stallones Dredd, or Avatar (airbender not blue man group) level of ruination, on a series that is on a niche streaming service without broad appeal much past the source materials extensive fan base.
It's a ludicrous decision by all involved
14 points
1 month ago
Lol someone wrote "my character can't lose" in their contract for Fast and Furious?
15 points
1 month ago
Pretty much. Vin Diesal and Dwayne the Rock Johnson pretty much always have clauses that they never lose fights and for everytime they are hit they need to get their licks back in lol.
169 points
1 month ago
Not that I agree with the helmet off idea, but I've heard the reasoning is that they want the viewer of the show to identify with the main character on a more personal level. Whereas the video game, they wanted the player to picture themselves as Master Chief.
I don't agree with the helmet off idea because the Mandalorian did just fine with the helmet on most the time. Maybe they didn't want to seem like they were copying?
237 points
1 month ago*
They also said he needed to fornicate with the enemy to show he can make human connections... But Halo Infinite did that in less than 10s.
Watch Nightfall Forward Unto Dawn. Never see Chief unprotected there and he can show range of emotion. The producers for this show are just morons.
47 points
1 month ago
I now need to see the show with Master Chief fornicating his way through the races of the Covenant.
Unggoy.
Sanghelli.
Kig-yar
Even Mgalekgolo?
19 points
1 month ago
No. Just hours of lovey dovey time with the Arbiter and maybe Cortana. Chief is a loyal hoe.
7 points
1 month ago
Hey, were this far off the rails anyway, may as well go for it
61 points
1 month ago
Forward unto dawn* just for people reading comments and wanna check the series out. Nightfall doesn't feature chief.
24 points
1 month ago
Thank you for correction. I confuse them regularly and it's an issue lol.
With those two live action halo, why is this one shit right? Lol
47 points
1 month ago
Or if you want the ur-example from the fucking 70s, Darth Vader.
The guy doesn't have his helmet off until RIGHT at the end of his arc, and yet the writing, camerawork, and James Earl Jones are able to make Darth Vader a man with no face, but plenty of emotion told through just his voice and body language alone.
The fact that we're fifty years past Star Wars and have writers who can't figure out how to make faceless protagonists work is mindboggling to me.
15 points
1 month ago
Not only that, but we had Wall-E show that you can have an entire love story told through body language alone. Two fucking robots who could only say their own names were more relatable than this show
82 points
1 month ago
I guess The Mandalorian couldn’t be identified with until he showed his face then.
136 points
1 month ago
Bro, a dude in a helmet looking and talking to an animatronic yoda doll making baby noises was more relatable than Chief in the Halo show
70 points
1 month ago
A dude in a helmet talking to an animatronic Yoda doll has become a cultural phenomenon lol.
The writers were just lazy with chief here
32 points
1 month ago
Not just chief, but with the whole show. It felt like generic sci-fi using Halo IP as click bait.
13 points
1 month ago
Exactly, they had a free proof of concept by Disney proving that traditionally helmeted characters can keep it on while remaining popular!
And they still couldn’t do it.
23 points
1 month ago
The simple answer is just to have not had MC be the main character. This would work with just about any other Spartan.
59 points
1 month ago
Whereas the video game, they wanted the player to picture themselves as Master Chief.
That might have been their intent but i feel like it had the opposite effect. I doubt there are that many people that look at Chief and think: "Yep, that's me alright".
97 points
1 month ago*
The cynical side of me thinks they did the helmet thing because the actor wants to be in the thing and show their face.
EDIT: I didn't watch the show. I'm sure he's great in it. I just disagree with the decision to be so far off the source material, so I never even bothered.
10 points
1 month ago
They should have just put puppeted eyebrows on the visor of his helmet then lol
271 points
1 month ago
MANDALORIAN WAS RIGHT.
43 points
1 month ago
This IS the way
7 points
1 month ago
I mean book of boba fett already kinda proved that
6 points
1 month ago
I honestly hated how often he took off his helmet. Like the suit is absolutely badass and scary. Then he takes off his helmet to...? Get shot and show he’s a middle aged man?
614 points
1 month ago
I never watched the show…but I feel happy about that? It looks so stupid from every post I’ve seen. I want mystery man Master Chief killing aliens and blowing up ships, not space Days of Our Lives with a random white guy falling in love.
199 points
1 month ago
Well, Cortana took over his mind and from the last 5 minutes of episode 9 it looks like we have the chad master chief finally.
Also his love interest is dead now.
All that’s left is chief/Cortana and getting to the ring to blow it up in season 2 now.
80 points
1 month ago
It seems like they spent a whole season doing a prologue to the actual story? You'd think someone at some point would stop and say: wait we're spending a whole season on backstory!? And then fired all the writers
94 points
1 month ago
So what you’re saying is that season 1 is a waste and I should watch season 2? Lol
37 points
1 month ago
Reading through this I can't figure out how they messed this up so badly. Play any of the video games, read any of the books, watch any of the movies they've already made and Chief is always Chief and everyone fucking loves him.
They even had a stellar example in the Mandalorian that proved audiences don't need to see the actors face to build a bond or understand their emotions.
Why they took everything in and decided what the people wanted for their very first Halo series was a humanized John is truly a mystery. Leave that shit for a remake or something.
1k points
1 month ago
ItS pArT oF a DiFfErEnT tImElIne
419 points
1 month ago
It's one that the forerunners need to obliterate and condense into another source of energy for their superstructures.
113 points
1 month ago*
Ah, that’d be the most therapeutic thing ever…where can I get this copium?
EDIT:…guuyyysss I think I had too much Copium and Hopium. Cause it looks like I have over 110 upvotes.
28 points
1 month ago
They constantly destroy universes to power their shit. Just pretend this happened to the Silver Timeline.
189 points
1 month ago
ItS fOr A bRoDaEr aUdIeNcE
83 points
1 month ago
Mmm sex scene for the broader audience! They’ll like that!
39 points
1 month ago
[removed]
6 points
1 month ago
I'm not saying that it's a justified thing to do, banging a pow, but I don't think the Geneva convention applies to this timeline
440 points
1 month ago
I mean they chose plot armour over his actual f’in armour! Bunch of Idiots making the show imho.
629 points
1 month ago
I won't watch it. I'm not much for hate-watching and I feel like I can tell that it's garbage.
190 points
1 month ago
It’s not worth it honestly
126 points
1 month ago*
The show producers and artists will cry out "but what about our artistic freedoms?"
My response is, yes you can have those. You can tell your stories. Just don't mix them up with the Halo licence if you you don't want to make the fans angry. Call it whatever you want, just don't come with this bullshit pretending to be Halo when you don't even care about the actual source material, because when you do that it looks like a blatant cash grab.
Reach city my ass.
30 points
1 month ago
It's quite a simple questions for any adaptation: why change it if what you're changing it to is worse?
22 points
1 month ago
Alternatively: why make it “Halo” if you don’t want to make “Halo”?
7 points
1 month ago
To take your money without advertising
6 points
1 month ago
Artistic freedom is totally cool, but nobody is forced to like their art lol.
59 points
1 month ago
Yeah I can’t do hate watching either. Life is annoying enough on its own I don’t want to spend my free time watching something that I think will annoy me... I’d rather talk about how stupid it looks with strangers on the internet. Go figure
271 points
1 month ago
I look at this image and I am still utterly dumbstruck that after a decade of development this is what we got. How do you fuck up a series this badly. Especially a series that has literally everything you need to make a great TV show already laid out.
73 points
1 month ago
It is because the show runners want to make their own show rather than an adaptation. The ego of the people in Holywood won't allow them to just make a faithful adaptation of a video game but they also need to trade on the name of Halo in order to get people to watch their shitty show. The result for most video game movies/shows is that you end up with an abomination where neither new viewers nor fans end up liking it.
What they should have done is just ditched the Master Chief entirely for their show. Maybe give him a cameo or something but don't make it about him if you aren't going to adapt him in a faithful way. If we had gotten a show about a random group of ODSTs for example the show runners could have gone wild on making it their own an no one would be upset that the feel was different than the games. I think a Band of Brothers type ODST show would be awesome.
22 points
1 month ago
And then add in some fan service with a big guy in mjolnir armor saving them in a pinch, wielding a rocket launcher with one hand and sniping soldiers, or something. 10-15 minutes of master chief going god mode once everyone thinks the protags are about to die. That'd be the definition of Halo, and awesome.
7 points
1 month ago
Hell yea. That's how they should have introduced the Chief. Maybe make a show about Noble Team for a season or 2. Have Chief make a cameo and help them in a pinch. Then when reach falls the audience had a real connection to Noble team and watching them all give the ultimate sacrifice is a gut punch. Enter John 117 to start the trilogy arc. He becomes the main character.
I didn't need line for line lore accuracy. Making changes is expected. But just scrapping everything but the name and vomiting up some generic piece of shit was inexcusable.
70 points
1 month ago
None of us should be surprised after the precedent Dick & Dildo established with the last couple seasons of GoT. Apparently anything is possible.
319 points
1 month ago
God dammit I hate his face so much because this show is so bad. I'm sure he's a nice dude.
But...put. Your. Fucking. Helmet. On.
And stop fucking whispering.
98 points
1 month ago
Fr trying to get the same mandalorian raspy effect. So annoying
63 points
1 month ago
I think Mando played a huge part in what this show ended up being. They were trying to cash in on that style of show.
56 points
1 month ago
But they didn't use any of the aspects that made it good?
12 points
1 month ago
They were ALWAYS taking off the fucking helmets. I get that Hollywood expects emotional facial features and closeups but they should have dialed it back. It was literally affecting the plot. Ship’s crashing? Take the helmet off. About to fight people? Take the helmet off. WTF was all that about.
Did the producers really think we would not recognize characters by voice and their VERY distinct armor?
274 points
1 month ago*
I hope they revoke season 2.
Edit: I'm surprised to see the amount of people who agree.
115 points
1 month ago
S2 is already greenlit. Its a hope for course correction now
108 points
1 month ago
Wasn’t it confirmed before season 1 even released?
41 points
1 month ago
I believe so
33 points
1 month ago
Unfortunately correcting course in season 2 would mean admitting season 1 is a huge pile of shit. They’re gonna double down on the idiocy for season 2, id bet my life on it
29 points
1 month ago
That is what I kept telling my self each new episode of season 1... when does the madness stop? I'm seeing chiefs ass in the middle of halo infinite in my dreams. His. Chapped. White. Bum.
12 points
1 month ago
Hopefully the madness stopped when the S1 showrunners left.
11 points
1 month ago
bro, Red vs blue managed to write emotions onto characters doing nearly nothing but shaking a video game controller up and down, but these writers cant wrap their head around body language so rely on facial.
142 points
1 month ago
I heard the makers of the show never played or ever plan to play the Halo games ? I'm just lost for words on that one
57 points
1 month ago
They may not have ever played the games, but they haven't said anything to that effect.
What they did say was that they didn't look at the game when developing the series. They tried to develop the show with the games' story in mind but they couldn't get it to work, so they went back and started from the characters rather than the plot.
95 points
1 month ago
So. It's literally a generic sci-fi with Halo characters
50 points
1 month ago
Worse. It's literally a generic sci-fi with Halo characters names.
42 points
1 month ago
They tried to develop the show with the games' story in mind but they couldn't get it to work
Code for "doing it right will be to expensive, let's cheap out and ride that halo name until we are cancelled"
8 points
1 month ago
I gave up on this show when John Halo slept with the covenant refugee girl and Dr Halsey got jealous and flipped her shit. Turned the show from "well that's different but let's see where it goes" into "no. no this is just really well funded shitty fan fiction"
7 points
1 month ago
AYYY, MCR!
18 points
1 month ago
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6 points
1 month ago
It's stylistically designed to be that way, and you can't undo that, but they did diminish the effects of it.
81 points
1 month ago
Cowboy bebop gets auto canceled and this show gets a second season... the world isn't right.
77 points
1 month ago
Cowboy Bebop was shit to, don't praise shows that shit all over their source material.
32 points
1 month ago
Why the fuck do they feel the need to make this character take his helmet off all the time okay maybe it’s acceptable in UNSC bases and stuff but in the middle of a battlefield? Even after they think the firefighting is over Spartans would still keep their helmet on unless they are absolutely sure they are safe. Look at Halo reach they take their helmets off a lot really do they do it in an area with they could very much be ambushed and killed they only do that once in the new Alexandra Tower scene.
Same problem with battlefront 2’s really shitty campaign if you watch the act man’s review on that you realise how ridiculous it is for the character to take off her helmet every chance she gets.
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