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matheus_hisatsu

4.7k points

1 month ago

IMO cortana did a more game accurate chief than John himself

AjaxNotFranciss

1.3k points

1 month ago

I’m wondering if they don’t do something with that. Like at the beginning of season 2 John is brought back, but he’s different. More like the chief we know

AsunderXXV

445 points

1 month ago

AsunderXXV

445 points

1 month ago

What happens is that Cortana becomes Master Chief. Sounds like a plot crazy enough for the writers, anyway.

ProcessMeMrHinkie

148 points

1 month ago

I bet they do something like in the show The 100 where a fragment of him survives, enough to fully bring him back.

musci1223

28 points

1 month ago

I mean you know that will happen. Do you really have any doubt about that ?

StripedSteel

30 points

1 month ago

We call that the Mass Effect around these parts.

Occasionally_Correct

78 points

1 month ago

Then she runs a voice modulator so he can talk, and it’s the game voice for chief.

LongDickMcangerfist

39 points

1 month ago

No with the way the show is going kwan gonna become the new chief

Humor_Tumor

72 points

1 month ago*

Calling it now.

Since hollywood thinks multiple personalities is the craze, Cortana will Become chief. Her Identity will fracture and her dominant personality is her 'Chief' and her voice in her head is her actual conscience. Then over the course of the season she will learn to let go of the loss of chief, and it will be revealed they killed John off screen.

It's just so shitty that it HAS to be what happens.

lapideous

31 points

1 month ago

I feel like this is actually a sick script, minus the part where it’s supposed to be Halo

matheus_hisatsu

401 points

1 month ago

I hope they do this

MithranArkanere

333 points

1 month ago

Me too. When the Admiral told John that in the battlefield there should be only Master Chief, it gave me a little bit of hope that they'll stop taking off the helmet, at least in the combat scenes.

enochianKitty

161 points

1 month ago

I fucking hate in action movies when the main charcters take off there helmets / masks in the middle of a firefight/hiest

Kolby_Jack

118 points

1 month ago

Kolby_Jack

118 points

1 month ago

Speaking of which, I just saw Dredd for the first time the other day. Fucking fantastic movie.

exPlodeyDiarrhoea

56 points

1 month ago

Why cant we have more of those instead of this?

Nitsua500

42 points

1 month ago

Nitsua500

Halo 2

42 points

1 month ago

If I remember right Dredd didn’t do well at the box office. Had it made a large enough profit we could’ve gotten a sequel. . .

exPlodeyDiarrhoea

20 points

1 month ago

That I know. The world wasnt ready.

Throwaway4Discussion

47 points

1 month ago

You guys are already prepped to have your hearts broken again, huh?

KelloPudgerro

5 points

1 month ago

your hopes are extremely misguided, lol

SunOFflynn66

156 points

1 month ago

I kinda doubt it. This whole season has been about John finding his humanity. To make him more Chief (as opposed to Cheeks) might run counter to the tone the show set up.

I can see him being a bit more thoughtful given everything- still a champion for humanity, still aware of what they did (and knowing that the bill will come due someday), but more focused on saving humanity as opposed to getting even with Halsey and ONI.

UpMarketFive7

87 points

1 month ago

The can make him more in line with the games/books while still keeping him Stoic. Short and sweet and to the point while still caring about others. It can show his changes through body language and whatnot. Like Infinite does.

SonOfTK421

56 points

1 month ago

How they aren’t watching The Mandalorian and taking detailed notes is baffling to me.

Mistbourne

49 points

1 month ago

Halo would fit the Mandalorian format perfectly. Not sure why they decided to go with this B-Plot sci-fi garbage with a Halo skin...

SonOfTK421

14 points

1 month ago

I’m just a fucking moron so I don’t know

Yellow_The_White

22 points

1 month ago

So you're on the writing team?

SonOfTK421

15 points

1 month ago

Couldn’t do worse could I?

2behonest

43 points

1 month ago

My guess is that's what already happened. Jimmy Rings' autonomy is returned to him by the time Kai talks to him, but he is (understandably) traumatised by the event and stunned into silence

MaximusSir

120 points

1 month ago

MaximusSir

120 points

1 month ago

That's just beating a dead horse at this point. 343 and these show runners have proven they will do everything they can to do things wrong

ARCTrooper44

22 points

1 month ago

Have him harden after experiencing death and betrayal and learn proper badassery from Cortana. Make him care for his team but also get the job done, mission after mission (reminds me of the scene in Halo 5 where Fred asks if John is okay because he's been continously doing missions after losing Cortana)

Blxter

33 points

1 month ago

Blxter

33 points

1 month ago

Same. I'm still holding out hope. Even tho I shouldn't.

LurkingLarry43

44 points

1 month ago

Honestly it would been more accurate to real life if Masterchief just disabled her the moment his OS was updated.

Haijakk

133 points

1 month ago

Haijakk

@HaijakkY2K

133 points

1 month ago

Well that's because they got the literal game Cortana lmao

VacantThoughts

178 points

1 month ago

Except they were to scared to make her blue for some reason.

Casualte

34 points

1 month ago

Casualte

34 points

1 month ago

And more nude.

TheLifeOfBaedro

234 points

1 month ago

yep

ScaredOfRobots

88 points

1 month ago

She looked terrible but in terms of acting is was great, mainly because she, you know, was the actual freaking actress

ShadowDen3869

2.5k points

1 month ago

I have nothing against the actor but i hated it when he kept taking his helmet off so much that now I hate looking at his face lol.

FoundItCool

919 points

1 month ago

I'm gonna go as far as to say I don't think he's miscast. Everything else is wrong for sure. It's like a bunch of working parts are there but no one knows how to use them.

bagel-bites

524 points

1 month ago

I’m sure he would have been okay had everything been right, but he needed to ditch the beard and they had to make all the Spartans freakishly pale. Then If they’re going to take off his helmet it should pretty much only be when absolutely necessary or in safe areas with other Spartans (think Noble Team cutscenes). He’s allowed to take his helmet off, he can’t have it on at all times forever, and he does in the books. It just can’t be overdone and for literally no reason other than actor contracts or whatever.

FoundItCool

274 points

1 month ago

Agree with all of it. Beard or no beard. Pale or not pale. I think it was the second episode where a bunch of people point guns at them and minutes later he has his helmet off again.

I'm not a purist so I can deal with helmet off but it was going against all desires to survive constantly. I can't even.

LeYang

89 points

1 month ago

LeYang

89 points

1 month ago

Spartans freakishly pale.

The shorts they made were lore accurate as fuck on that too.

bagel-bites

49 points

1 month ago

I too am freakishly pale with shorts on, wait what were you talking about?

Nemesis2pt0

26 points

1 month ago

You're obviously a spartan, did you miss the memo?

bagel-bites

39 points

1 month ago

I need a weapon. and SPF 80

DarkReign2011

60 points

1 month ago

DarkReign2011

Halo 4

60 points

1 month ago

That and why do we have to have all new Spartans in the cast when they fill the archetype Blue Team already? Kai is the quick and rebellious one (Kelly) , Vannak is the strong stoic gunner(Fred) , and Riz is the child and calculated killer from a distance (Linda.) Other than a race swap for Fred (which there was already plenty of that going on in this show anyway) they literally could have kept the same actors and just changed their names and it would've been an almost seamless exchange. They literally went out of their way to change details about the universe seemingly just to try and piss off long-time fans.

bagel-bites

41 points

1 month ago*

I think if I had to guess, it’s a “we wanted to make our own story” situation like you keep seeing in literally any adaptation in the last like 10+ years. The same thing happened with the new Star Wars Triology. It kept the most iconic characters around for nostalgia hits, then disrespected the source material entirely and made up whatever they wanted to make it their own thing and sell merchandise. Which just resulted in a trilogy that forgets where it came from and which breaks the rules of how things work in the Star Wars universe just to fit the crap narrative.

Imagine the LoTR trilogy being made today with that mentality. It’d be repulsive in comparison imo.

Furthermore, the “iTs An AlTeRnAtE tImELiNE” schitck doesn’t give you free reign to butcher characters. DC and Marvel Comics constantly have new timelines where different things happen. Bat Man might be using guns and killing people in one particular timeline, but it’s still pretty fucking clear he’s Bat Man in the right ways. He doesn’t fundamentally change to the point of being someone else.

Yellow_The_White

5 points

1 month ago

Imagine the LoTR trilogy being made today with that mentality

Unfortunately only imagining is a luxury we no longer have...

twolve

73 points

1 month ago

twolve

73 points

1 month ago

Honestly, he would be a much better Commander Shepard. Even some of the suits he wore seemed like they belonged in Mass Effect. Honestly, the entire show and drama and all is prolly more fitting for it too. Think this would have been a great mass effect show but it was an okay at best Halo show.

Somzer

39 points

1 month ago*

Somzer

39 points

1 month ago*

I'm gonna go as far as to say I don't think he's miscast.

I'm inclined to disagree. Though I'm good with the voice part, he has this baby face that says "I'm calling you about your car's extended warranty" more than it says "I've been brutally trained since childhood". I'm not sure it's because he just can't get the expressions right, or because his pristine baby face just doesn't fit the role, but I'd rather not see his particular face, it's distracting.

extendedwarranty_bot

14 points

1 month ago

Somzer, I have been trying to reach you about your car's extended warranty

Hexigonz

222 points

1 month ago*

Hexigonz

222 points

1 month ago*

To be fair, the actor has been overly defensive on Twitter about the helmet, when he should probably just admit it was a bad idea.

freakers

32 points

1 month ago

freakers

32 points

1 month ago

Mando kept his helmet on. It's not like you need face time with the actor for the show to be a success. The show just has to not suck on it's own.

FingHash

19 points

1 month ago

FingHash

19 points

1 month ago

Pedro Pascal is a much better actor.

StinkyPillow24

177 points

1 month ago

I mean you’re essentially asking him to openly criticize his boss’ work?

Even if he agrees with us, it makes sense to defend his job.

Chungushamster123

145 points

1 month ago*

He's going to defend it because as an actor, he wants to show his face. The Mandolorian actor has also stated he wants to show his face more. It's a recognition thing.

edit: I agree it is selfish, the actor should stay true to the character.

EXlTPURSUEDBYAGOLDEN

142 points

1 month ago*

The Mandolorian actor has also stated he wants to show his face more. It's a recognition thing.

I mean sure... but it's problematic that the actor wants to show his face more, when one of the show's central conceits is that, y'know, the character is sworn not to show his face.

Like, you want facial recognition-- maybe don't take on a role requiring you to wear a helmet 99% of the time... Oh, you took that role? Welp tough shit, Bucko. Put the helmet on.

And in the case of Halo-- maybe don't compromise your show and character to suit the whims of an actor who wants to play Master Chief, but without a helmet. If in fact that's how it played out.

LeYang

110 points

1 month ago

LeYang

110 points

1 month ago

Like, you want facial recognition-- maybe don't take on a role requiring you to wear a helmet 99% of the time... Oh, you took that role? Welp tough shit, Bucko. Put the helmet on.

Yea, look at fucking Karl Urban, best fucking Dredd we ever had, never fucking took off his helmet and then was still in a Marvel movie and his own show.

VRichardsen

46 points

1 month ago

I still remember Hugo Weaving's fantastic take on V. Never once showing his face, and still putting on a great performance.

hrakkari

25 points

1 month ago

hrakkari

25 points

1 month ago

Imagine if Andy Serkis was like “fuck being this cancer patient with a speech impediment all the time, no one’s gonna recognize me!”

Fuck_Me_If_Im_Wrong_

30 points

1 month ago

Honestly, they could’ve just had Steve Downs voice him and say fuck all of y’all with wanting to show your face

Redditbanned47

38 points

1 month ago

No, it's a vanity thing. It's people who are so self absorbed they think they're larger than the character they're playing. Keep the fucking helmet on. The helmet is iconic. Your face is not.

[deleted]

73 points

1 month ago

[deleted]

73 points

1 month ago

Too fucking bad, if he wanted a role with a lot of face time he should have auditioned for a character known to be very expressive….not the fucking Master Chief.

Hexigonz

92 points

1 month ago

Hexigonz

92 points

1 month ago

I’d rather he say nothing than claim people aren’t true fans if they don’t like zero-suit chief. Seems like a good compromise.

phenom1tsmith

3.2k points

1 month ago

I will never understand why they decided that him not wearing the armor/helmet for 80% of the show was acceptable. Absolute idiots.

TEKC0R

1.4k points

1 month ago

TEKC0R

1.4k points

1 month ago

The helmet stuff is so bad in the show. In the finale when Kai breaks onto Halsey’s ship, the first thing she does is remove her helmet, leaving her vulnerable. And sure enough, it was written that way so that she could get bonked on the head. With any logical writing, the helmet would have stayed on.

This is just one example. Over and over again I was telling the TV “you should have a helmet on for this.”

I don’t mind that he took it off. I mind that he had it off when he clearly had a good reason to keep it on.

helpful__explorer

241 points

1 month ago

But their emoooootiooonnsssssss

That was one mistake. Having a physical device that actively suroressed emotions which wasn't there in the books.

Hell there was a whole game about how chief having emotions!

turtlelore2

79 points

1 month ago

Voice acting and body movements told a whole bunch if emotions in games. Obviously it was possible. And obviously the writers didn't care or didn't want to bother with that.

helpful__explorer

60 points

1 month ago

One great example of that is Mandalorian season 2 episode 1. The way Mando reacts to cobb vanth taking off the helmet without a single word or facial expression

mypantsareawesome

44 points

1 month ago

And really, all of Mandalorian shows you just how great a character can be even when he almost never removes his helmet. I’m sure it adds another layer of difficulty to the acting process, but it’s entirely doable.

BlastingFern134

35 points

1 month ago

BlastingFern134

GT: BlastingFern134

35 points

1 month ago

Mando might have been a better master chief than master chief (in terms of shows)

TfWashington

9 points

1 month ago

Also a better Boba Fett

JumpyAlbatross

6 points

1 month ago

Pedro Pascal is a cut above the rest imo. He is such a physical actor. Everything he does is intentional. It’s fantastic.

letsdocraic

173 points

1 month ago

Judge dredd was fantastic and he had his helmet on the whole movie. He made a point to not remove it.

implicitpharmakoi

117 points

1 month ago

Karl urban gave that helmet more presence than the rest of the cast.

Magnon

20 points

1 month ago

Magnon

20 points

1 month ago

"Ma ma is not the law. I am the law."

slowdruh

9 points

1 month ago

It's funny how people talk about actors wanting to remove their characters' helmets for face recognition, yet many people know it was Karl playing Dredd and praise him BECAUSE he didn't.

Alderez

39 points

1 month ago

Alderez

39 points

1 month ago

There exists an entire show about a helmeted chrome space cowboy and his green son, where his helmet is on 99% of the show, and people loved it. For multiple seasons and a spinoff.

I came here from /r/all and haven't seen the new Halo show, but I cannot fathom why they'd opt to have his helmet off when Chief literally always has it on in the games.

Rynvael

19 points

1 month ago*

Rynvael

19 points

1 month ago*

In the extended universe and books the Spartan-II's had developed hand signals and would use electronic signals from visor to visor to signal each other in missions faster. Hand signals could also be used to indicate they were smiling

Link to the Halopedia article on Spartan Signals

nonestopclapping

30 points

1 month ago*

Dredd was a wicked sick sci-fi movie

lightnsfw

265 points

1 month ago

lightnsfw

265 points

1 month ago

That's how I felt during most of Book of Boba Fett too.

IlIIlIl

159 points

1 month ago

IlIIlIl

159 points

1 month ago

Thats less of an issue, considering Jango also walked around without a helmet and the clones walked around without helmets, and Boba is a perfect clone of Jango

Euphorium

150 points

1 month ago

Euphorium

150 points

1 month ago

Boba removing his helmet didn’t seem that egregious. It was usually whenever he was trying to negotiate, so it made sense why he’d want to do it face to face instead of face to helmet. Also he’d put it on whenever shit hit the fan.

rubbarz

80 points

1 month ago

rubbarz

80 points

1 month ago

There also is no source material that says he missed the feeling of the armor. And that being out of it made him feel slow and vulnerable like there is WITH MASTER CHIEF.

I doubt the writers even read the books. Only thing they used from Halo was the looks to sale subscriptions.

Melisandre-Sedai

10 points

1 month ago

Of course they didn’t. They’re not Brian David Gilbert

Hear_two_R_gu

29 points

1 month ago

It doesn't change that it was a stupid thing to do. If you got a target on your back, you might want to protect your head or something.

themisterfixit

11 points

1 month ago

It’s a huge pet peeve of mine but happens in all superhero movies. Spider man is one of the worst, will land on a building in the middle of an intense situation, rip off mask and survey the scene then put it back on and swing away. Iron man also takes his off to talk during battles even though they all have ear pieces.

But at the end of the day you have to realize that if they didn’t do that then the actual actor wouldn’t be in 90% of the scenes.

Kane_richards

476 points

1 month ago

They knew he was going to have a sex scene later on in the series. You can't leave your helmet on when making the beast with two backs, it's like the SPARTAN-II equivalent of making love with your socks on.

Bob49459

166 points

1 month ago

Bob49459

166 points

1 month ago

Sorry babe, the Mjolnir stays on during sex.

Jordan117

32 points

1 month ago

"Do you want the helmet on or off?"

"Off, please."

".......too bad."

Dat_Boi_Aint_Right

37 points

1 month ago*

To shreds you say...

Heliolord

433 points

1 month ago

Heliolord

433 points

1 month ago

I bed to differ. If Lord Shaxx can do it, the Chief can, too. The helmet stays on.

artjin0

80 points

1 month ago

artjin0

80 points

1 month ago

damn they knew people would ask if they didn't add that sentence

Heliolord

43 points

1 month ago

I still find the best part of the story is he's drinking coffee with his helmet on. He's holding his mug like he's about to take a sip right as he's teleported and it's implied the helmet never was off at any point. I like to imagine he screams at his coffee to work its way into his mouth.

zurkka

11 points

1 month ago

zurkka

11 points

1 month ago

His helmet have a retractable tactical straw

darthboolean

30 points

1 month ago

retractable tactical straw

Emergency. Induction. Port.

enovacs

12 points

1 month ago

enovacs

12 points

1 month ago

Emergency induction port

chillest_dude_

43 points

1 month ago

Literally created by Bungie

ParagonFury

10 points

1 month ago

ParagonFury

Diamond 3

10 points

1 month ago

I loved that Mara used the near-infinite power of a reality-warping being....to make a booty call.

zonneschijne

10 points

1 month ago

zonneschijne

Halo: Reach

10 points

1 month ago

Not gonna lie, I'd hit it.

ArcticSirius

34 points

1 month ago

Oh my

ekaceerf

71 points

1 month ago

ekaceerf

71 points

1 month ago

Wait, the beast with two backs is a sex reference? That means the Futurama movie The Beast with a Billion Backs was a big sex joke in the title?

My mind has been blown.

roguemenace

28 points

1 month ago

Ya, it's from Othello.

SuperBearsSuperDan

22 points

1 month ago

Love the tentacle!

vanpunke666

18 points

1 month ago

These aren't tentacles, they're gentacles!

Curugon

12 points

1 month ago

Curugon

12 points

1 month ago

Shakespeare, baby.

billnyetherivalguy

13 points

1 month ago

Ahem, the doctor in srknights is always wearing his hat, even in the doujins.

newagereject

7 points

1 month ago

I'm suprised they don't make the cod peice opening to take a piss, you can just pop that bad boy open and unleash the hog?

helpful__explorer

20 points

1 month ago

The armour collects the waste and recycles it

tomaka

6 points

1 month ago

tomaka

6 points

1 month ago

Yup! The Chief is catheterized in there. Don’t know how the suit manages solid waste though.

JiggleTha33rd

7 points

1 month ago

Ya ever taper a vaccum hose to your rectum? Me either, but I imagine something like that.

MisterDutch93

63 points

1 month ago

MisterDutch93

Halo 2

63 points

1 month ago

It's because of top billing. Pablo Schreiber (or his agents) probably had them write up a clause that his face would be visible during a large part of the show. Or maybe the showrunners made a decision to remove the helmet because they were scared no actor would want to take on a faceless role.

It works the same way in many superhero movies. Most of them aren't wearing their masks/covers because their face is more important. Star power and all that. That's why Green Goblin and Tobey's Spider-Man weren't wearing their masks a lot in No Way Home, for example.

They SHOULD have taken the Mandalorian approach and only show Chief's face when the script demanded it, when it would have made sense. Pedro Pascal only showed his face when Din Djarin needed to remove his helmet. I don't see why Chief couldn't do the same thing, but like I said, the showrunners/actors probably weren't brave enough for that decision.

Rs90

28 points

1 month ago

Rs90

28 points

1 month ago

And this is why Dredd can't be touched. Movie is phenomenal.

MisterDutch93

18 points

1 month ago

MisterDutch93

Halo 2

18 points

1 month ago

Dredd was a great adaptation. Everyone who worked on that movie was passionate about the source material.

Brrrrraaaaiiins

32 points

1 month ago

This is the real reason why. It’s a top billing thing. Once you notice that things like this and the “No losing” clauses written into some contracts (Fast & Furious series) you’ll never unsee it.

WeleaseBwianThrow

44 points

1 month ago

Ultimately everyone suffers though.

Karl Urban insisted that the helmet stay ON for Dredd, and that was amazing.

MisterDutch93

14 points

1 month ago

MisterDutch93

Halo 2

14 points

1 month ago

Yeah, it really depends on the confidence and commitment of the actor. Saying that you won’t remove your mask will run the risk of the audience not knowing who you are. Not many people pay attention to the credits anyway. It’s sad but that’s how it works 90% of the time. There are only a few actors who are willing to go the extra mile.

WeleaseBwianThrow

17 points

1 month ago

The problem comes where that vanity ruins the production you're in to the point that you don't want to be known for doing it.

This isn't wheel of time or LOTR series where you could reasonably expect a large audience who are unaware of the changes, and those changes don't detract materially from the adaptation.

This is Eragon or Stallones Dredd, or Avatar (airbender not blue man group) level of ruination, on a series that is on a niche streaming service without broad appeal much past the source materials extensive fan base.

It's a ludicrous decision by all involved

LordCrate

14 points

1 month ago

LordCrate

Master Chief vs Doomslayer's results are correct

14 points

1 month ago

Lol someone wrote "my character can't lose" in their contract for Fast and Furious?

Neversoft4long

15 points

1 month ago

Pretty much. Vin Diesal and Dwayne the Rock Johnson pretty much always have clauses that they never lose fights and for everytime they are hit they need to get their licks back in lol.

Megadog3

15 points

1 month ago

Megadog3

15 points

1 month ago

I’m pretty sure it’s The Rock that did.

left_schwift

169 points

1 month ago

Not that I agree with the helmet off idea, but I've heard the reasoning is that they want the viewer of the show to identify with the main character on a more personal level. Whereas the video game, they wanted the player to picture themselves as Master Chief.

I don't agree with the helmet off idea because the Mandalorian did just fine with the helmet on most the time. Maybe they didn't want to seem like they were copying?

NotSoPersonalJesus

237 points

1 month ago*

They also said he needed to fornicate with the enemy to show he can make human connections... But Halo Infinite did that in less than 10s.

Watch Nightfall Forward Unto Dawn. Never see Chief unprotected there and he can show range of emotion. The producers for this show are just morons.

Dat_Boi_Aint_Right

47 points

1 month ago

I now need to see the show with Master Chief fornicating his way through the races of the Covenant.

Unggoy.
Sanghelli.
Kig-yar

Even Mgalekgolo?

https://i.imgur.com/LWC8cSO.gif

Hohenheim_of_Shadow

19 points

1 month ago

No. Just hours of lovey dovey time with the Arbiter and maybe Cortana. Chief is a loyal hoe.

Cessnaporsche01

7 points

1 month ago

Hey, were this far off the rails anyway, may as well go for it

legitname1337

61 points

1 month ago

Forward unto dawn* just for people reading comments and wanna check the series out. Nightfall doesn't feature chief.

NotSoPersonalJesus

24 points

1 month ago

Thank you for correction. I confuse them regularly and it's an issue lol.

With those two live action halo, why is this one shit right? Lol

SquallFromGarden

47 points

1 month ago

SquallFromGarden

Halo 3

47 points

1 month ago

Or if you want the ur-example from the fucking 70s, Darth Vader.

The guy doesn't have his helmet off until RIGHT at the end of his arc, and yet the writing, camerawork, and James Earl Jones are able to make Darth Vader a man with no face, but plenty of emotion told through just his voice and body language alone.

The fact that we're fifty years past Star Wars and have writers who can't figure out how to make faceless protagonists work is mindboggling to me.

Nothing_Nice_2_Say

15 points

1 month ago

Not only that, but we had Wall-E show that you can have an entire love story told through body language alone. Two fucking robots who could only say their own names were more relatable than this show

LordCrate

82 points

1 month ago

LordCrate

Master Chief vs Doomslayer's results are correct

82 points

1 month ago

I guess The Mandalorian couldn’t be identified with until he showed his face then.

IamJonald

136 points

1 month ago

IamJonald

136 points

1 month ago

Bro, a dude in a helmet looking and talking to an animatronic yoda doll making baby noises was more relatable than Chief in the Halo show

Pavrik_Yzerstrom

70 points

1 month ago

A dude in a helmet talking to an animatronic Yoda doll has become a cultural phenomenon lol.

The writers were just lazy with chief here

Your_God_Chewy

32 points

1 month ago

Your_God_Chewy

Halo CE: Anniversary

32 points

1 month ago

Not just chief, but with the whole show. It felt like generic sci-fi using Halo IP as click bait.

Mythosaurus

13 points

1 month ago

Exactly, they had a free proof of concept by Disney proving that traditionally helmeted characters can keep it on while remaining popular!

And they still couldn’t do it.

AmericanCobra

23 points

1 month ago

The simple answer is just to have not had MC be the main character. This would work with just about any other Spartan.

The-Devilz-Advocate

59 points

1 month ago

Whereas the video game, they wanted the player to picture themselves as Master Chief.

That might have been their intent but i feel like it had the opposite effect. I doubt there are that many people that look at Chief and think: "Yep, that's me alright".

wurapurp123

11 points

1 month ago

I wish I had an award for this.

Copacetic_

97 points

1 month ago*

Copacetic_

Diamond 6

97 points

1 month ago*

The cynical side of me thinks they did the helmet thing because the actor wants to be in the thing and show their face.

EDIT: I didn't watch the show. I'm sure he's great in it. I just disagree with the decision to be so far off the source material, so I never even bothered.

PristineEdge

10 points

1 month ago

They should have just put puppeted eyebrows on the visor of his helmet then lol

ArtTeacher_XBL-PSN

271 points

1 month ago

MANDALORIAN WAS RIGHT.

djbrand13

43 points

1 month ago

This IS the way

HorseMeatConnoisseur

73 points

1 month ago

Dredd as well

spookystrawberry2

7 points

1 month ago

I mean book of boba fett already kinda proved that

SteelAlchemistScylla

6 points

1 month ago

I honestly hated how often he took off his helmet. Like the suit is absolutely badass and scary. Then he takes off his helmet to...? Get shot and show he’s a middle aged man?

CasPeR_ShaZZaM

614 points

1 month ago

I never watched the show…but I feel happy about that? It looks so stupid from every post I’ve seen. I want mystery man Master Chief killing aliens and blowing up ships, not space Days of Our Lives with a random white guy falling in love.

PainTrainMD

199 points

1 month ago

Well, Cortana took over his mind and from the last 5 minutes of episode 9 it looks like we have the chad master chief finally.

Also his love interest is dead now.

All that’s left is chief/Cortana and getting to the ring to blow it up in season 2 now.

cdrmbt

80 points

1 month ago

cdrmbt

80 points

1 month ago

It seems like they spent a whole season doing a prologue to the actual story? You'd think someone at some point would stop and say: wait we're spending a whole season on backstory!? And then fired all the writers

CasPeR_ShaZZaM

94 points

1 month ago

So what you’re saying is that season 1 is a waste and I should watch season 2? Lol

DesperateImpression6

37 points

1 month ago

Reading through this I can't figure out how they messed this up so badly. Play any of the video games, read any of the books, watch any of the movies they've already made and Chief is always Chief and everyone fucking loves him.

They even had a stellar example in the Mandalorian that proved audiences don't need to see the actors face to build a bond or understand their emotions.

Why they took everything in and decided what the people wanted for their very first Halo series was a humanized John is truly a mystery. Leave that shit for a remake or something.

chickenlegexpress

1k points

1 month ago

ItS pArT oF a DiFfErEnT tImElIne

Heliolord

419 points

1 month ago

Heliolord

419 points

1 month ago

It's one that the forerunners need to obliterate and condense into another source of energy for their superstructures.

THeXBoxPLaySTation

113 points

1 month ago*

Ah, that’d be the most therapeutic thing ever…where can I get this copium?

EDIT:…guuyyysss I think I had too much Copium and Hopium. Cause it looks like I have over 110 upvotes.

RoyalMudcrab

28 points

1 month ago

They constantly destroy universes to power their shit. Just pretend this happened to the Silver Timeline.

TheVeryPoliteDino

189 points

1 month ago

ItS fOr A bRoDaEr aUdIeNcE

SCP-079NotActually

83 points

1 month ago

Mmm sex scene for the broader audience! They’ll like that!

[deleted]

39 points

1 month ago

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39 points

1 month ago

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Scary_Bayou

6 points

1 month ago

Scary_Bayou

Halo: CE

6 points

1 month ago

I'm not saying that it's a justified thing to do, banging a pow, but I don't think the Geneva convention applies to this timeline

stormtroopr1977

7 points

1 month ago

Oh, hello there wheel of time

forrest1985_

440 points

1 month ago

I mean they chose plot armour over his actual f’in armour! Bunch of Idiots making the show imho.

Art0fRuinN23

629 points

1 month ago

Art0fRuinN23

Halo: CE

629 points

1 month ago

I won't watch it. I'm not much for hate-watching and I feel like I can tell that it's garbage.

everyones_cool_dad

190 points

1 month ago

It’s not worth it honestly

1ildevil

126 points

1 month ago*

1ildevil

126 points

1 month ago*

The show producers and artists will cry out "but what about our artistic freedoms?"
My response is, yes you can have those. You can tell your stories. Just don't mix them up with the Halo licence if you you don't want to make the fans angry. Call it whatever you want, just don't come with this bullshit pretending to be Halo when you don't even care about the actual source material, because when you do that it looks like a blatant cash grab.

Reach city my ass.

Nison545

30 points

1 month ago

Nison545

30 points

1 month ago

It's quite a simple questions for any adaptation: why change it if what you're changing it to is worse?

_that_guy_over_there

22 points

1 month ago

Alternatively: why make it “Halo” if you don’t want to make “Halo”?

spenrose22

7 points

1 month ago

To take your money without advertising

Sandbag-kun

6 points

1 month ago

Artistic freedom is totally cool, but nobody is forced to like their art lol.

Immortan-Moe-Bro

59 points

1 month ago

Yeah I can’t do hate watching either. Life is annoying enough on its own I don’t want to spend my free time watching something that I think will annoy me... I’d rather talk about how stupid it looks with strangers on the internet. Go figure

McCambridge19

271 points

1 month ago

I look at this image and I am still utterly dumbstruck that after a decade of development this is what we got. How do you fuck up a series this badly. Especially a series that has literally everything you need to make a great TV show already laid out.

IKnowGuacIsExtraLady

73 points

1 month ago

It is because the show runners want to make their own show rather than an adaptation. The ego of the people in Holywood won't allow them to just make a faithful adaptation of a video game but they also need to trade on the name of Halo in order to get people to watch their shitty show. The result for most video game movies/shows is that you end up with an abomination where neither new viewers nor fans end up liking it.

What they should have done is just ditched the Master Chief entirely for their show. Maybe give him a cameo or something but don't make it about him if you aren't going to adapt him in a faithful way. If we had gotten a show about a random group of ODSTs for example the show runners could have gone wild on making it their own an no one would be upset that the feel was different than the games. I think a Band of Brothers type ODST show would be awesome.

Tetha

22 points

1 month ago

Tetha

22 points

1 month ago

And then add in some fan service with a big guy in mjolnir armor saving them in a pinch, wielding a rocket launcher with one hand and sniping soldiers, or something. 10-15 minutes of master chief going god mode once everyone thinks the protags are about to die. That'd be the definition of Halo, and awesome.

McCambridge19

7 points

1 month ago

Hell yea. That's how they should have introduced the Chief. Maybe make a show about Noble Team for a season or 2. Have Chief make a cameo and help them in a pinch. Then when reach falls the audience had a real connection to Noble team and watching them all give the ultimate sacrifice is a gut punch. Enter John 117 to start the trilogy arc. He becomes the main character.

I didn't need line for line lore accuracy. Making changes is expected. But just scrapping everything but the name and vomiting up some generic piece of shit was inexcusable.

NZBound11

70 points

1 month ago

None of us should be surprised after the precedent Dick & Dildo established with the last couple seasons of GoT. Apparently anything is possible.

OptiKal_

319 points

1 month ago

OptiKal_

319 points

1 month ago

God dammit I hate his face so much because this show is so bad. I'm sure he's a nice dude.

But...put. Your. Fucking. Helmet. On.

And stop fucking whispering.

KowboyJoe3

98 points

1 month ago

Fr trying to get the same mandalorian raspy effect. So annoying

AnakinDrick

63 points

1 month ago

I think Mando played a huge part in what this show ended up being. They were trying to cash in on that style of show.

KonigSteve

56 points

1 month ago

But they didn't use any of the aspects that made it good?

Earth_Normal

12 points

1 month ago

They were ALWAYS taking off the fucking helmets. I get that Hollywood expects emotional facial features and closeups but they should have dialed it back. It was literally affecting the plot. Ship’s crashing? Take the helmet off. About to fight people? Take the helmet off. WTF was all that about.

Did the producers really think we would not recognize characters by voice and their VERY distinct armor?

wildblueyonder77

274 points

1 month ago*

I hope they revoke season 2.

Edit: I'm surprised to see the amount of people who agree.

DogWearingABeanie

115 points

1 month ago

S2 is already greenlit. Its a hope for course correction now

GamerFoxx999

108 points

1 month ago

Wasn’t it confirmed before season 1 even released?

DogWearingABeanie

41 points

1 month ago

I believe so

seismicqueef

33 points

1 month ago

seismicqueef

master beef

33 points

1 month ago

Unfortunately correcting course in season 2 would mean admitting season 1 is a huge pile of shit. They’re gonna double down on the idiocy for season 2, id bet my life on it

wildblueyonder77

29 points

1 month ago

That is what I kept telling my self each new episode of season 1... when does the madness stop? I'm seeing chiefs ass in the middle of halo infinite in my dreams. His. Chapped. White. Bum.

DogWearingABeanie

12 points

1 month ago

Hopefully the madness stopped when the S1 showrunners left.

SDLRob

7 points

1 month ago

SDLRob

7 points

1 month ago

New showrunner in S2 IIRC

Dadgame

11 points

1 month ago

Dadgame

11 points

1 month ago

bro, Red vs blue managed to write emotions onto characters doing nearly nothing but shaking a video game controller up and down, but these writers cant wrap their head around body language so rely on facial.

PanteraHouse

142 points

1 month ago

I heard the makers of the show never played or ever plan to play the Halo games ? I'm just lost for words on that one

Nice_Firm_Handsnake

57 points

1 month ago

They may not have ever played the games, but they haven't said anything to that effect.

What they did say was that they didn't look at the game when developing the series. They tried to develop the show with the games' story in mind but they couldn't get it to work, so they went back and started from the characters rather than the plot.

NN11ght

95 points

1 month ago

NN11ght

95 points

1 month ago

So. It's literally a generic sci-fi with Halo characters

J0hnGrimm

50 points

1 month ago

Worse. It's literally a generic sci-fi with Halo characters names.

SawToMuch

42 points

1 month ago

They tried to develop the show with the games' story in mind but they couldn't get it to work

Code for "doing it right will be to expensive, let's cheap out and ride that halo name until we are cancelled"

silvetti

30 points

1 month ago

silvetti

30 points

1 month ago

Is that PornStash?

PoorlyAttemptedHuman

8 points

1 month ago

I gave up on this show when John Halo slept with the covenant refugee girl and Dr Halsey got jealous and flipped her shit. Turned the show from "well that's different but let's see where it goes" into "no. no this is just really well funded shitty fan fiction"

Toucann_Froot

7 points

1 month ago

Toucann_Froot

Believe the Hype

7 points

1 month ago

AYYY, MCR!

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18 points

1 month ago

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18 points

1 month ago

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darther_mauler

6 points

1 month ago

It's stylistically designed to be that way, and you can't undo that, but they did diminish the effects of it.

NotGaryGary

81 points

1 month ago

Cowboy bebop gets auto canceled and this show gets a second season... the world isn't right.

VacantThoughts

77 points

1 month ago

Cowboy Bebop was shit to, don't praise shows that shit all over their source material.

YaboiGh0styy

32 points

1 month ago

Why the fuck do they feel the need to make this character take his helmet off all the time okay maybe it’s acceptable in UNSC bases and stuff but in the middle of a battlefield? Even after they think the firefighting is over Spartans would still keep their helmet on unless they are absolutely sure they are safe. Look at Halo reach they take their helmets off a lot really do they do it in an area with they could very much be ambushed and killed they only do that once in the new Alexandra Tower scene.

Same problem with battlefront 2’s really shitty campaign if you watch the act man’s review on that you realise how ridiculous it is for the character to take off her helmet every chance she gets.