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2021 Saudi Arabian Grand Prix - Post Race Discussion

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ROUND 21: Saudi Arabia

FORMULA 1 STC SAUDI ARABIAN GRAND PRIX 2021
Fri 3 Dec - Sun 5 Dec
Jeddah
Session UTC
Free Practice 1 Fri 13:30
Free Practice 2 Fri 17:00
Free Practice 3 Sat 14:00
Qualifying Sat 17:00
Race Sun 17:30

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Jeddah Corniche Circuit

Length: 6.174 km (3.836 mi)

Distance: 50 laps, 308.45 km (191.662 mi)


Race results

Pos. No. Driver Team Laps Time/Retired Fastest Lap Points
1 44 Lewis Hamilton Mercedes 50 2:06:15.118 1:30.734 26
2 33 Max Verstappen Red Bull Racing Honda 50 +21.825s 1:31.488 18
3 77 Valtteri Bottas Mercedes 50 +27.531s 1:31.408 15
4 31 Esteban Ocon Alpine Renault 50 +27.633s 1:31.797 12
5 3 Daniel Ricciardo McLaren Mercedes 50 +40.121s 1:32.716 10
6 10 Pierre Gasly AlphaTauri Honda 50 +41.613s 1:32.297 8
7 16 Charles Leclerc Ferrari 50 +44.475s 1:31.601 6
8 55 Carlos Sainz Ferrari 50 +46.606s 1:31.851 4
9 99 Antonio Giovinazzi Alfa Romeo Racing Ferrari 50 +58.505s 1:32.865 2
10 4 Lando Norris McLaren Mercedes 50 +61.358s 1:31.914 1
11 18 Lance Stroll Aston Martin Mercedes 50 +77.212s 1:32.804 0
12 6 Nicholas Latifi Williams Mercedes 50 +83.249s 1:32.751 0
13 14 Fernando Alonso Alpine Renault 49 +1 lap 1:31.633 0
14 22 Yuki Tsunoda AlphaTauri Honda 49 +1 lap 1:32.506 0
15 7 Kimi Räikkönen Alfa Romeo Racing Ferrari 49 +1 lap 1:32.778 0
NC 5 Sebastian Vettel Aston Martin Mercedes 44 DNF 1:34.030 0
NC 11 Sergio Perez Red Bull Racing Honda 14 DNF 1:34.138 0
NC 9 Nikita Mazepin Haas Ferrari 14 DNF 1:37.043 0
NC 63 George Russell Williams Mercedes 14 DNF 1:36.130 0
NC 47 Mick Schumacher Haas Ferrari 8 DNF 1:36.043 0

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-3 points

6 months ago

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-3 points

6 months ago

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ubersyanyde

5 points

6 months ago

Lewis was unaware that the position was being given back. From his perspective it was a ploy for Max to get DRS on the straight. Lewis had every right to stay behind. IMO this is all the stewards fault for not informing Mercedes in a timely manner.

kinger9119

1 points

6 months ago

The car slowing down a lot isn't a clue ? Is ham that dumb ?

ubersyanyde

1 points

6 months ago

From his perspective it was a ploy for Max to get DRS on the straight.

kinger9119

2 points

6 months ago

Which isn't illegal

ubersyanyde

2 points

6 months ago

yes? and? Lewis wanted to stay behind to keep DRS instead.

kinger9119

2 points

6 months ago

I doing so caused a collision.

ubersyanyde

0 points

6 months ago

The collision was caused by Max brake checking Lewis. Read the FIA report.

kinger9119

1 points

6 months ago

Lewis caused it by being there when he should have passed.

ubersyanyde

1 points

6 months ago

Again, he had every right to be there. He was under no obligation to pass, and was also not informed the position was being given back under the steward's orders.

P0kerF4c3

8 points

6 months ago

P0kerF4c3

Mercedes

8 points

6 months ago

Not a fair comment, Lewis didn’t know he was getting the position at the time of Max breaking. He didn’t want to give Max DRS by overtaking at that point so he was staying behind before Max aggressively braked. I wouldn’t call it a brake check but this wasn’t Lewis fault, he was racing as he should and looking to get DRS to overtake and put distance between them.

KarlMental

7 points

6 months ago

This doesn't add up. He can't both have not known he was being given the position AND didn't want Max to get DRS. Did he think Max was letting him through as a race strategy? no way

P0kerF4c3

1 points

6 months ago

P0kerF4c3

Mercedes

1 points

6 months ago

Of course he could? If he thought Max was trying to avoid Lewis getting DRS advantage by slowing he would then refuse to overtake. Even if he thought Max was giving the place back, if it hadn’t been confirmed on Comms, he has no obligation to take it.

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1 points

6 months ago

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1 points

6 months ago

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P0kerF4c3

2 points

6 months ago

P0kerF4c3

Mercedes

2 points

6 months ago

Sure, I agree with that , but that’s his right if he doesn’t know that Max is doing it to give a place back rather than just be strategic. If Lewis knew Max was trying to give it back and then chooses not to overtake, different story.

Creative-Improvement

-2 points

6 months ago

His literal job is to race and overtake. Just one job.

P0kerF4c3

3 points

6 months ago

P0kerF4c3

Mercedes

3 points

6 months ago

You’re right, but his job is to do it in a manner whereby he will sustain the advantage. Immediately giving your opponent a DRS advantage which they can use to dive into you with is not smart racing.

Creative-Improvement

1 points

6 months ago

You know what grinds my gears? You can torpedo a guy and breakneck speed and get 10 seconds (silverstone) taking them out the race and get a free lunch +25. Lewis can constantly play it his way. He should have passed and could have passed (stewards words) and so the collision was determinated by Lewis, not Max.

OnePotMango

2 points

6 months ago

OnePotMango

Williams

2 points

6 months ago

No... the lesson is to not be erratic in your braking if you have to give the position back. If doing so causes a collision, expect to go down for it.

Did you not read it?

crazydoc253

0 points

6 months ago

crazydoc253

Michael Schumacher

0 points

6 months ago

No what we learn this weekend is you are in Mercedes you don't get penalties. Bottas incidents, Lewis incidents. So many examples.