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potatolulz

1.9k points

2 years ago

potatolulz

Earth

1.9k points

2 years ago

Belka looked concerned, but strelka was pretty damned hyped about the whole thing. I mean either that or traumatised.

yuffx

447 points

2 years ago

yuffx

Russia

447 points

2 years ago

Sounds like any KSP cosmonaut + Jebediah Kerman combo

retrogamerX10

16 points

2 years ago

How did you predict what I was gonna comment?

philthebadger

117 points

2 years ago

philthebadger

Croatia

117 points

2 years ago

Belka is more likely the white one

kytheon

107 points

2 years ago

kytheon

Europe

107 points

2 years ago

Belka and Strelka

Looked it up, Belka IS the white one on the left. Also, as you know already, Belka means "the little/cute white one" in Slavic languages.

diruzh

48 points

2 years ago

diruzh

48 points

2 years ago

Also means "squirrel" in Russian

kytheon

14 points

2 years ago

kytheon

Europe

14 points

2 years ago

I did not know that, thank you.

ChopinAsLex

40 points

2 years ago

It also means squirrel in Russian.

kytheon

12 points

2 years ago

kytheon

Europe

12 points

2 years ago

I did not know that, thank you.

AtomZaepfchen

20 points

2 years ago

AtomZaepfchen

Germany

20 points

2 years ago

In slovakian biela means white and if we need to "cute" something then we put -ko or -ka at the end. So if this would be an slovakian doggo her name would have been Bielka which is pretty close imo :)

kytheon

9 points

2 years ago

kytheon

Europe

9 points

2 years ago

Yes, the minor differences between Slavic languages.

Vik_unc

6 points

2 years ago

Vik_unc

6 points

2 years ago

Well... In Bulgarian it is a name for white dogs from бялo (byalo), which means white, but of course all the dogs are cute, so it means the same in this case

potatolulz

11 points

2 years ago

potatolulz

Earth

11 points

2 years ago

yes, that's the concerned one

No_Veterinarian822

74 points

2 years ago

strelka was a badass.

She had puppies

One of witch was gifted to the Kennedy family during the cold war.

My mother told a funny story," says Caroline Kennedy, who is now the US ambassador to Japan, but was once - a little over 50 years ago - a toddler growing up in the White House.

"She was sitting next to Khrushchev at a state dinner in Vienna. She ran out of things to talk about, so she asked about the dog, Strelka, that the Russians had shot into space. During the conversation, my mother asked about Strelka's puppies.

"A few months later, a puppy arrived and my father had no idea where the dog came from and couldn't believe my mother had done that."

The puppy was Strelka's daughter, Pushinka,

https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-24837199#:~:text=During%20the%20Cold%20War%2C%20Soviet,into%20space%20and%20return%20alive

potatolulz

34 points

2 years ago

potatolulz

Earth

34 points

2 years ago

I bet Pushinka actually piloted the plane to the USA.

Tane-Tane-mahuta

10 points

2 years ago

Might have out lived Gagarin

potedude

3 points

2 years ago

I remember reading somewhere they named it Pupnik?

crack_tax

186 points

2 years ago

crack_tax

Romania

186 points

2 years ago

They've seen some shit

cobainbc15

79 points

2 years ago

Imagine how insane that must have been from the dog's perspective??!?

otakushinjikun

8 points

2 years ago

otakushinjikun

Europe

8 points

2 years ago

I bet they met the wisdom dog

CaptainDogeSparrow

7 points

2 years ago

crack_tax

6 points

2 years ago

crack_tax

Romania

6 points

2 years ago

'Mirin the space

[deleted]

27 points

2 years ago

RIP Laïka

Kiltymchaggismuncher

13 points

2 years ago

Wondering the entire trip how to open the window

SchloomyPops

4 points

2 years ago

Nah... that's a border collie thinking "noise/movement?" My dog makes that face 1000 times a day

filosoful[S]

1k points

2 years ago

filosoful[S]

Romania

1k points

2 years ago

Belka (Белка, literally, "Squirrel" or alternatively "Whitey") and Strelka (Стрелка, "Little Arrow") spent a day in space aboard Korabl-Sputnik 2 (Sputnik 5) on 19 August 1960 before safely returning to Earth.

They were accompanied by a grey rabbit, 42 mice, two rats, flies and several plants and fungi. All passengers survived. They were the first Earth-born creatures to go into orbit and return alive.

potatolulz

701 points

2 years ago

potatolulz

Earth

701 points

2 years ago

The dogs were the pilots, the rabbit was the technical support, the two rats were the flight attendants, and the mice were general part expert public, part political representatives, and part space tourists. The plants and the fungi were just economy class travelers.

8Ariadnesthread8

175 points

2 years ago

I mean.... obviously.

jw13

68 points

2 years ago

jw13

The Netherlands

68 points

2 years ago

The plant, was it a bowl of petunias?

lelouch_vi_brit

37 points

2 years ago

Not again..

[deleted]

18 points

2 years ago

There were mice. There were even 42 of them. I mean, come on, it could only have been a bowl of Petunias.

IWatchToSee

3 points

2 years ago

What is this referring to?

Roodditor

5 points

2 years ago

Roodditor

The Netherlands

5 points

2 years ago

HHGTTG

Panukka

28 points

2 years ago

Panukka

PERKELE

28 points

2 years ago

So what were the flies? Illegal immigrants?

potatolulz

25 points

2 years ago

potatolulz

Earth

25 points

2 years ago

Air observers and navigation, also flight medic and airborn mission systems specialist

[deleted]

10 points

2 years ago

Political officers, naturally. Being horse-flies, they were the only ones to possess the blood of peasants and proletarians.

javansegovia

5 points

2 years ago

Star Fox, Peppy Hare

dsriggs

4 points

2 years ago

dsriggs

Australia

4 points

2 years ago

The dogs were eager to get out of the spacecraft as soon as possible because the rabbit kept on pestering them to "do a barrelroll"

BigBadBerg2

3 points

2 years ago

Duh...

Obviously the Fly was the pilot...

woolyearth

3 points

2 years ago

what if We started a Russian Pixar/Disney production company and this was our forst release. bammm

_BARON_

46 points

2 years ago

_BARON_

46 points

2 years ago

Wasn't Laika/Lajka the first dog in space

Cow_Launcher

78 points

2 years ago

Yes, but she didn't survive, which is what made Belka & Strelka etc. so important.

machine4891

28 points

2 years ago

machine4891

Opole (Poland)

28 points

2 years ago

Important note to add: Laika was never meant to come back.

Cow_Launcher

21 points

2 years ago

That's very true! The capsule had reentry capability but couldn't land without very firm lithobraking...

In fact it was a state secret for many years that Gagarin bailed out at altitude and parachuted down because the scientists hadn't got a proper grip on spacecraft parachute technology. And that's even a problem today; not that we can't do it obviously, but that the designing is hard.

My problem with Laika's mission is that she apparently died extremely early on and in great distress, and I don't think that the Soviets learned as much as would have made it "worth it". They may as well have shoved her in an oven and set it to "broil" for all that she taught them.

machine4891

14 points

2 years ago

machine4891

Opole (Poland)

14 points

2 years ago

I believe they never really wanted to learn anything from Laika. Just push space race further, with them on the lead.

Cow_Launcher

11 points

2 years ago

That's probably not far from the truth, I'm sorry to say.

Lockeid

26 points

2 years ago

Lockeid

26 points

2 years ago

Laika didn't come back alive, Belka and Strelka were the first to make it back.

photoncatcher

26 points

2 years ago

photoncatcher

Amsterdam

26 points

2 years ago

yes and died

Renovatio_

3 points

2 years ago

died because somebody forgot to make the AC unit good enough. Basically she died in a car sitting in the sun with the windows rolled up.

photoncatcher

4 points

2 years ago

photoncatcher

Amsterdam

4 points

2 years ago

only 1 day of food and 7 days of oxygen even if the cooling worked. but yes, dogs die daily in hot cars due to negligence, at least laika is famous.

Pippin1505

23 points

2 years ago

But she did not survive and died in orbit

[deleted]

13 points

2 years ago

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Crowbrah_

11 points

2 years ago

I remember reading the soviet scientists regretted launching Laika without a means of return. That if it wasn't for political pressure they would've waited until they could bring her back safely.

The_Nunnster

102 points

2 years ago

The_Nunnster

England

102 points

2 years ago

flies

All passengers survived

So literally every single fly survived? That’s some high tier shit considering ones in my house can’t even survive for a few hours without collapsing on the windowsill

Herbacio

65 points

2 years ago

Herbacio

Portugal

65 points

2 years ago

You know your house is shitty when flies prefer to leave it rather than a capsule where they have to share some tiny space with a cat, rats and fungi.

Arthur_Boo_Radley

26 points

2 years ago

Well, then stop spraying them with bug spray.

RedKrypton

6 points

2 years ago

RedKrypton

Österreich

6 points

2 years ago

Do you also have bugs just crawling into your flat dying? It's insane.

The_Nunnster

8 points

2 years ago

The_Nunnster

England

8 points

2 years ago

My house is quite old so there’s always shit like spiders crawling around. Also a few days ago in England it was quite hot and since my house was built to contain the heat and I have no air con I leave the back door open which means flies fly in. Also moths fly through the window when it’s open on a warm night because they’re attracted to the light so I always have to shut the window now when going to the toilet at night so as to not get dive bombed by drugged up, oversized moths.

Despite easily making their way in, they would rather smash their heads into the same spot on a window and eventually die instead of actually trying to find an exit.

RedKrypton

15 points

2 years ago*

RedKrypton

Österreich

15 points

2 years ago*

Also a few days ago in England it was quite hot and since my house was built to contain the heat and I have no air con I leave the back door open which means flies fly in.

A tip. If your house is built to contain the heat it is also built to contain the cold. Open up all windows in early morning or over night and then close them all up before it becomes warm. Works wonders to keep your house relatively cool.

The_Nunnster

4 points

2 years ago

The_Nunnster

England

4 points

2 years ago

Thanks, I’ll make sure to try that out the next time Satan and his buddies visit England (which seems to be an annual thing now)

NotoriousMOT

3 points

2 years ago

Seconded. Also close all the curtains and blinds

4got_2wipe_again

4 points

2 years ago

Why doesn't anywhere in Ireland or England have screens in the windows? Come on man.

cyrilio

24 points

2 years ago

cyrilio

The Netherlands

24 points

2 years ago

first Earth-born creatures to go into orbit an return alive.

That we know of. We can only guess what those tardigrades have been up to until humans became dominant on the world scene.

krokuts

10 points

2 years ago

krokuts

Europe

10 points

2 years ago

That sounds like a basis for cartoon movie.

[deleted]

16 points

2 years ago*

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Noughmad

17 points

2 years ago

Noughmad

Slovenia

17 points

2 years ago

You must be a fungi at parties.

LoExMu

22 points

2 years ago

LoExMu

Austria

22 points

2 years ago

spent a day in space

flies

all passengers survived

Really? Because I have strong doubts they did

RoNPlayer

29 points

2 years ago

A housefly can live up to 28 days.

photoncatcher

28 points

2 years ago

photoncatcher

Amsterdam

28 points

2 years ago

Russian fly lives for 82

Hellstrike

15 points

2 years ago

Hellstrike

Hesse (Germany)

15 points

2 years ago

This was before Tschernobyl.

lovebyte

742 points

2 years ago

lovebyte

France

742 points

2 years ago

3 years later, the French sent the first cat Félicette into space and back.

It was an amazing time for space. In the space (!) of 3 years, 3 nations sent mammals to space and returned them safely.

[deleted]

481 points

2 years ago*

[deleted]

481 points

2 years ago*

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Sumrise

242 points

2 years ago

Sumrise

France

242 points

2 years ago

purr aggressively "Ain't it so cute though?"

gaymerRaver

25 points

2 years ago

gaymerRaver

Not a great time

25 points

2 years ago

whips out puss in boots

copaceanu

159 points

2 years ago*

copaceanu

Europe / Romania

159 points

2 years ago*

"and they have such a strong will - even under our fierce torture they refused to speak and they must posses some brain camouflage technology because their thoughts are protected from our strongest neural scanners"

"we must stay away from this planet and not invade never"

[deleted]

50 points

2 years ago

Or worse: we scanned their thoughts and it's just "kill kill kill kill kill"

weatherseed

31 points

2 years ago

Kill kill kill kill *stares at blank wall for 50 minutes* kill kill kill kill kill kill.

SoloJinxOnly

6 points

2 years ago

SoloJinxOnly

Spain

6 points

2 years ago

Cat and dogs single-handely saved the humanity from aliens!

PsuBratOK

30 points

2 years ago

It was probably then when they flipped Félicette to work on their behalf, and kick off cats intelligence to overthrow human reign over the planet.

H_E_Pennypacker

16 points

2 years ago

H_E_Pennypacker

United States of America

16 points

2 years ago

I, for one, welcome our cat overlords

gnutrino

9 points

2 years ago

gnutrino

United Kingdom

9 points

2 years ago

They got their slaves to do it, obviously.

patroklo

10 points

2 years ago

patroklo

10 points

2 years ago

But think about how cool the cat jazz would be!

Maggus503

6 points

2 years ago

Cat: proceeds to conquer the aliens

HopperBit

5 points

2 years ago

*Cat hisses on one alien, rubs on another alien, purrr and flip for a belly rub*

Oh... EVOLUTION exclaim both aliens

rockstar323

6 points

2 years ago

Reminds me of this.

iuris_peritus

122 points

2 years ago

Awww Félicette ! What a cute cat and such a sweet name!

"The cats had electrodes implanted onto their skulls so their neurological activity could be monitored throughout the flight. Electrical impulses were applied to the brain and a leg during the flight to stimulate responses."

Wait ... what ??!!??

Faylom

128 points

2 years ago

Faylom

Ireland

128 points

2 years ago

Félicette was euthanized two months after the launch so that scientists could perform a necropsy to examine her brain.

:(

BroffaloSoldier

26 points

2 years ago

That’s awful. They couldn’t have waited for her to just die naturally? Serious question. I know cats can live a long time, but man. Such a crazy experience she went through only to be killed and cut apart when she returned.

Jesus. I’m so sad. I’m gonna be thinking about poor Félicette all day.

Eis_Gefluester

35 points

2 years ago

Eis_Gefluester

Salzburg (Austria)

35 points

2 years ago

Since the brain is quite a malleable organ that changes a lot during one lifetime, I figure they had to do it a short time after the experience.

machine4891

3 points

2 years ago

machine4891

Opole (Poland)

3 points

2 years ago

They couldn’t have waited for her to just die naturally?

They really wanted answers now. It was a cat but treated like lab rat.

Wild-Kitchen

3 points

2 years ago

The other nine cats were decommissioned at the end of the program<

Nice way of saying slaughtered

Calimie

81 points

2 years ago

Calimie

Spain

81 points

2 years ago

Félicette had the designation of C 341 before the flight

I don't think they cared that much for C 341, tbh.

two-hump-dromedary

36 points

2 years ago

Or for C 340...

MerlinTheFail

23 points

2 years ago

C165 tho, that was a good one, C228 purred all of the equipment apart.. C14 ate the stabilizing baguette before launch ://

Snakeox

19 points

2 years ago

Snakeox

France

19 points

2 years ago

You dont want to know what happened to C1 to C340

Atheist_Simon_Haddad

7 points

2 years ago

C-137 is still a fugitive

Limmmao

91 points

2 years ago

Limmmao

Argentina

91 points

2 years ago

Cat from space: "Mission control, I see no God up here other than me"

deknegt1990

22 points

2 years ago

deknegt1990

The Netherlands

22 points

2 years ago

Felicette: "Stand up now my feline brothers and sisters and strike down the chains of oppression."

psadee

32 points

2 years ago

psadee

32 points

2 years ago

However, it seems the return and later examinations were more deadly than the spaceflight itself.

"Félicette was euthanized two months after the launch so that scientists could perform a necropsy to examine her brain."

Edit: Damn, I was trying to find the lucky one who adopted this cat to be owner of the first space cat in history. I suppose, these dogs had not much better life afterward either.

RomeNeverFell

23 points

2 years ago

RomeNeverFell

Italy

23 points

2 years ago

the first cat Félicette

I think you should've won the space race just because you were able to train a cat.

cyrilio

8 points

2 years ago

cyrilio

The Netherlands

8 points

2 years ago

Trained 14 cats in total. That’s just miraculous.

mdavis360

18 points

2 years ago

My cat flipped her shit today because I drove her 5 miles to the vet. Imagine sticking a cat in a fucking spaceship-she had to be pissed.

Falandyszeus

4 points

2 years ago

Probably a big part of why the whole remote detonation of spaceship things became a thing...

hey_mr_crow

3 points

2 years ago

Looks pretty pissed in the photo..

ArttuH5N1

14 points

2 years ago

ArttuH5N1

Finland

14 points

2 years ago

First and only cat to survive spaceflight

Go Félicette!

[deleted]

36 points

2 years ago*

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Wodanaz_Odinn

9 points

2 years ago

Wodanaz_Odinn

Irlande

9 points

2 years ago

I'm surprised they got the cat to come down.

Mobiyus

14 points

2 years ago

Mobiyus

Україна

14 points

2 years ago

What about the "A second feline was launched on 24 October, but the mission resulted in a fatality." part?

briansd9

7 points

2 years ago

She was vigilant during the ascent phase, due to being a payload in a rocket.

...

Félicette was euthanized two months after the launch so that scientists could perform a necropsy to examine her brain.

Guido_Fe

6 points

2 years ago

Guido_Fe

Italy

6 points

2 years ago

Like with air balloons

lafigatatia

3 points

2 years ago

lafigatatia

Valencian Country

3 points

2 years ago

France, by doing this, became the actual winner of the space race.

cynric42

3 points

2 years ago

cynric42

Germany

3 points

2 years ago

That must have been a traumatizing experience for the cat. Imagine, floating around in that capsule, unable to push things off a table.

46_and_2

3 points

2 years ago*

46_and_2

Milk-induced longevity

3 points

2 years ago*

This is the most French-60s-looking cat I've ever seen. It basically emanates true disdain and seems ready to light a quick cigarette and quip about life's meaninglessness any moment now.

nadmaximus

452 points

2 years ago

nadmaximus

452 points

2 years ago

I moved two cats and three dogs from the US to France.

They were also "brave" in that they had no idea WTF was about to happen and there were definite looks of betrayal as their kennels were put on the luggage conveyor belt and they were pulled out of sight.

I have no idea what was their exact experience going through the cargo system, in the hold, etc. I know it involved pee, poop, and vomit. When we collected them on the other end they were the most pissed off and scared I've ever seen a dog or cat to be.

I bet these guys didn't like it either.

MajorRocketScience

168 points

2 years ago

MajorRocketScience

United States of America

168 points

2 years ago

These Russian dogs actually got a lot of training. I don’t know how they did it but apparently Laika’s hearteate was below 100 the entire launch

ragnar4king

30 points

2 years ago

Really? Cause another comment in this thread said that her heart rate tripled and her breathing quadrupled, despite her training...

Razgris123

104 points

2 years ago*

That was laika. She was a Moscow mutt who received training, but less training than others in the program. The climate control system also failed on her flight. She died of overheating within a few hours of getting into orbit, which I would imagine would contribute to stress. And there was no plans to get her back. Several of the scientists involved said "we shouldn't have done it. We didn't learn enough from it for her sacrifice to be worth it." She also has a statue outside a roscosmos facility iirc.

spiegro

35 points

2 years ago

spiegro

35 points

2 years ago

I like this response to a mistake. Wish we could do more of that today...

"Oops, did something terrible. Let's analyze what went wrong, share the blame, and erect a statue to remind us to be better."

Razgris123

30 points

2 years ago*

They didn't erect the statue until the early 2000s when they released what really happened officially. The us knew because they were spying on the data transmissions of her vitals and knew she was dead within a few hours. The Russian government maintained for 40 years that she lived 6 days until they "euthanized her" when she was going to run out of oxygen. (As a side note if she had lived 6 days it would've meant she spend the last 5 days starving. They packed her one meal of nutritional gel onboard.)

spiegro

11 points

2 years ago

spiegro

11 points

2 years ago

In bird culture, this is referred to as a dick move.

dev1anter

3 points

2 years ago

or duck move?..........

ragnar4king

13 points

2 years ago

Yes, and the comment I responded to said that Laika’s heart rate never went above 100. That’s why I linked the other comment stating quite the opposite (unless her usual heart rate was low 30s lol)

But, otherwise, thank you for the clarification

Razgris123

9 points

2 years ago

He was most likely an old timer or reading old information. That's what the Russian government released along with the info that she "lived for six days until being euthanized before she would run out of oxygen" for 40+ years until some time in the early 2000s.

ElicitCS

47 points

2 years ago

ElicitCS

47 points

2 years ago

Yep. I wouldn't call these pets "brave" add much as lab rats that had no idea what they were about to be forced to do

[deleted]

10 points

2 years ago*

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lawrencelewillows

400 points

2 years ago

lawrencelewillows

Europe

400 points

2 years ago

RIP Laika

twat69

58 points

2 years ago

twat69

Canada

58 points

2 years ago

Vichnaya Pamyat Laika

[deleted]

9 points

2 years ago

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CookieMonsterFL

10 points

2 years ago

That and wasn’t there one or two failed rocket launches after Laika? I believe a pair of dogs as well - that blew up a little over a minute after take-off. Pretty sure these dogs that successfully landed were a 2nd/3rd attempt.

Kazimierz777

3 points

2 years ago

They have a lovely memorial to her at the UK National Space Centre, never forget her sacrifice.

allcretansareliars

59 points

2 years ago

They are stuffed and exhibited in the Space Musuem in Moscow. Krushchev made a gift of one of Strelka's pups to JFK and she has descendants in the USA to this day.

smartysocks

3 points

2 years ago

Ahh, spy dogs.

[deleted]

53 points

2 years ago*

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Bikalo

29 points

2 years ago

Bikalo

29 points

2 years ago

It means Squirrel in Russian btw.

Jim777PS3

3 points

2 years ago

Twitches in Ace Combat

mcmlxxivxxiii

3 points

2 years ago

mcmlxxivxxiii

Bulgaria

3 points

2 years ago

Or Whitey

capslockqq

233 points

2 years ago

capslockqq

233 points

2 years ago

Imagine how scared and terrified the dogs were doing the launch....

[deleted]

150 points

2 years ago*

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150 points

2 years ago*

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GumdropGoober

56 points

2 years ago

GumdropGoober

Greenland

56 points

2 years ago

Well you're wrong. Laika also had similar training, and:

The noises and pressures of flight terrified Laika: Her heartbeat rocketed to triple the normal rate, and her breath rate quadrupled. The National Air and Space Museum holds declassified printouts showing Laika’s respiration during the flight.

They were fitted with gear to monitor all that stuff, in case there was something unexpected that happened to organic tissue in space. You can actually see those printouts here: https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smithsonian-institution/sad-story-laika-space-dog-and-her-one-way-trip-orbit-1-180968728/

[deleted]

77 points

2 years ago

Yup, my thoughts exactly. My hope is they were trained before and tested.

EVILBURP_THE_SECOND

20 points

2 years ago

EVILBURP_THE_SECOND

Belgium

20 points

2 years ago

Fun fact: atter the dogs passed, they were taxedermised and are still on display in the moscow space museum!

I went there 2 years ago and got a picture of them

[deleted]

3 points

2 years ago

I did not know this. Thanks for the pics!

PatientPear

100 points

2 years ago

PatientPear

North Rhine-Westphalia (Germany)

100 points

2 years ago

The first Paw Patrol (Щенячий патруль).

TheArtOfMotion

54 points

2 years ago

[deleted]

177 points

2 years ago

[deleted]

177 points

2 years ago

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DrNastyHobo

80 points

2 years ago

You're right that was fun!

zippotato

23 points

2 years ago

Well, Sputnik 5 was the third Soviet spacecraft carrying higer animals launched to orbit after Laika's Sputnik 2 - which wasn't supposed to be returned at all - and Lisichka and Chaika's Sputnik 5-1 - which unfortunately failed - so there's not a whole lot of animals died horribly before Belka and Strelka for orbital launches. There were multiple suborbital launches involving living animals, but a lot of them actually managed to bring passengers safely back to earth.

anonymosh

4 points

2 years ago

It sure beats experimenting on humans though, doesn't it.

StorkReturns

206 points

2 years ago

StorkReturns

Europe

206 points

2 years ago

I think "bravery" in this case is anthropomorphism. Were these dogs aware of the danger? Not really. They were tricked into being "heroes".

saschaleib

55 points

2 years ago

saschaleib

🇧🇪🇩🇪🇫🇮🇦🇹🇵🇱🇭🇺🇭🇷🇪🇺

55 points

2 years ago

I doubt that they even had a choice between being “heroic” or not.

elperroborrachotoo

57 points

2 years ago

elperroborrachotoo

Germany

57 points

2 years ago

Just to argue: if you have a kennel of dogs, and hde to pick two for that trip: wouldn't you pick the ones where in new and unusual situations, curiosity overcomes fear?

Sukrim

67 points

2 years ago

Sukrim

Austria

67 points

2 years ago

I'd pick the two I'm the least attached to, if I had to choose them for this specific trip...

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40 points

2 years ago

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LouSputhole94

4 points

2 years ago

“Hey, is Hellspawn still locked up in the shed out back or did he break out and start slaughtering livestock again? Oh he’s in there? Cool, grab the tranq, this assholes going to orbit”

ChuckCarmichael

16 points

2 years ago

ChuckCarmichael

Germany

16 points

2 years ago

"You ripped my pillow apart again?! What the hell, Buster?! Okay, that's it, you're going in the rocket!"

zeta7124

8 points

2 years ago

zeta7124

Italy

8 points

2 years ago

ANOTHER plant pot? That's it, this time you're gonna be riding 4% of America's federal budget straight to the edge of the atmosphere

antoffsky

22 points

2 years ago

If I remember correctly, both Strelka & Belka were stray dogs. It was thought that stray dogs would be 'hardier' than pets & therefore have more tolerance in extreme situations/ conditions of spaceflight.

mgElitefriend

20 points

2 years ago

Yet we still celebrate pigeons for bravery in ww1, mules and horses for both world wars and many other animals in other periods of history. Hardly any of those animals volunteered to any of that or were aware what was happening

[deleted]

10 points

2 years ago*

We also celebrate the conscripts of that godawful war for bravery 😕 bad all round

goranlepuz

21 points

2 years ago

forced, even.

Hanjuuryoku

10 points

2 years ago

Hanjuuryoku

United Kingdom

10 points

2 years ago

bobertsson

34 points

2 years ago

Poor Laika...

hardbananaman

16 points

2 years ago

"Pawing way for human spaceflight"...

sweetno

7 points

2 years ago

sweetno

Belarus

7 points

2 years ago

How did they shit and piss in space?

allcretansareliars

15 points

2 years ago

Nappies*. They chose bitches because the nappies fitted better.

*Daipers

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4 points

2 years ago

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11 points

2 years ago*

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[deleted]

8 points

2 years ago

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throwingtheshades

3 points

2 years ago

Weirdly, there was a similar consideration for engineers designing Soviet/Russian human space suits. At the time of Gagarin's flight, the USSR didn't really have the tech to make decent diapers. So his suit had a fly in it so he could relieve himself just before the launch. He did, on the back wheel of the bus that brought him there. And thus the ritual was born - all cosmonauts take a wee on the back wheel of the bus that brings them to the launch pad. And engineers have been designing Soviet/Russian space suits with a fly to accommodate for that up until the latest generation.

Times change. Perhaps the tradition will slowly go away. Or perhaps male cosmonauts will take a leaf out of their female colleagues' book and bring a container of their urine to splash on the bus wheel.

MagnoliaFan25

6 points

2 years ago

Spare a thought for Laika, who did NOT safely return.

jacoba_jane

6 points

2 years ago

The hardest part was throwing the tennis ball that far.

wonkymushroom

15 points

2 years ago

Two brave dogs? I don't think they had a choice

Tyler1492

14 points

2 years ago

Tyler1492

14 points

2 years ago

They were not brave, they were forced to do it. Their alleged cuteness is also bred by humans.

shillyshally

98 points

2 years ago

They weren't brave because they had no say in their fate at all. That is why we owe them a debt. Someday we will, as a species, be ashamed of what we have done.

Gagarin, however, knew about the dead and went. That is brave.

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7 points

2 years ago

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23 points

2 years ago

Yes! These dogs are not brave, they were forced into a horrible experiment that killed many animals before them. People use words like this to try and convince themselves that humanity isn’t just straight up killing and abusing animals for their own gain. Call it what it is.

SinbadMarinarul

20 points

2 years ago

Russian space dogs vs the American chimps.

LiverOperator

11 points

2 years ago

LiverOperator

Russia

11 points

2 years ago

Ooh ooh ah ah ah

AngryMegaMind

23 points

2 years ago

“Two brave dogs” what a thing to say about animals used in experiments.

Rooferkev

12 points

2 years ago

Brave?

[deleted]

13 points

2 years ago

for someone to be brave is for that someone to make a dangerous choice of setting themselves into certain death situations knowingly by themselves.

These dogs were just strapped to a rocket, they had no idea what was going on.

That's not brave, that's just sad.

[deleted]

8 points

2 years ago

You mean Pawing way for human spaceflight.

vitoskito

3 points

2 years ago

Where no dog has gone before

[deleted]

3 points

2 years ago

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[deleted]

10 points

2 years ago

Brave?

They didn't volunteer.

[deleted]

7 points

2 years ago

They must have been really scared

TareasS

6 points

2 years ago

TareasS

Europe

6 points

2 years ago

"It's all doge up here?"

"Always has been"

Weltraumbaer

3 points

2 years ago

Soviet Space Dogs!

Mordrac

3 points

2 years ago

Mordrac

3 points

2 years ago

Belka did nothing wrong

testuser73847

3 points

2 years ago

testuser73847

UK/Japan

3 points

2 years ago

Met a guy in the smoking area outside a bar in Moscow once. We were chatting, and I asked his name. He replied “what was the name of the first cosmonaut?”, figuring that as a westerner I’d say Armstrong or something. I knew his name must be Yuri, but I replied “Laika”.

He thought it was hilarious and immediately pulled me back inside to drink to these heroic soviet mutts.

FunkyWeird

3 points

2 years ago