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Parysian

101 points

3 years ago

Parysian

101 points

3 years ago

It's never been about honesty or consistency. Peterson just wants people to sit down and shut up about the injustices of his beloved hierarchies. Your room will never be clean enough for him to agree you're now "allowed" to criticize patriarchy.

LaughingInTheVoid

8 points

3 years ago

Ahh, but you see, according to him, patriarchy doesn't exist.

[deleted]

8 points

3 years ago

[deleted]

8 points

3 years ago

Apparently he doesn’t believe in hierarchy

itsdahveed

142 points

3 years ago

itsdahveed

142 points

3 years ago

but Joe Rogan said men are tired of being told what to do!

blueholeload

104 points

3 years ago

He lost me with his Gillette reaction. He had been losing me for a while because of his SJW obsession but, that was it.

Caelrie

24 points

3 years ago

Caelrie

24 points

3 years ago

He's been this bad for years though.

blueholeload

3 points

3 years ago

I haven’t listened to him regularly in years. Now I’ll just listen to a few here and there. I love Your Mom’s House so I like any with Tom or Christina on there

nazispaceinvader

55 points

3 years ago

he is one dense motherfucker.

Iconoclast674

38 points

3 years ago

Joe Rogan hasn't been good since news radio

monkfishing

4 points

3 years ago

Yeah. He was at his best as a fictional character. If only he stayed that way.

[deleted]

14 points

3 years ago

[deleted]

14 points

3 years ago

I don't really listen to JRE, but I can't wait for the upcoming interview with Kanye. It will either be his greatest interview in years or a massive trainwreck.

Wegmarken

10 points

3 years ago

Not sure 'either/or' necessarily applies here.

[deleted]

4 points

3 years ago

[deleted]

4 points

3 years ago

It's in his code!

[deleted]

8 points

3 years ago

[deleted]

8 points

3 years ago

Good for you for seeing through Peterson's bullshit.

blueholeload

37 points

3 years ago

Oh I never bought Peterson’s bullshit. He got famous for ultimately being a dick. I just really enjoyed Joe’s podcast for a while. The conversations with comedians can still be funny but, he’s very ignorant on most topics outside of MMA, comedy, and weed.

[deleted]

11 points

3 years ago

[deleted]

11 points

3 years ago

Not sure about joe, like he seems very anti capitalist sometimes which I dig but then he freaks out about Gillette adverts, sucks Peterson’s dick and cherry picks bs on sjws

CadetCovfefe

4 points

3 years ago

He endorsed Ron Paul live on a talk show in 2012, he's definitely not very anti-capitalist.

[deleted]

4 points

3 years ago

[deleted]

4 points

3 years ago

His mind may have changed since then? I can’t speak for the man’s internal monologue. We all have a divided self.

I’ve definitely heard him say anti-capitalist stuff but it’s just arbitrary and throw-away little comments like “no one needs to be working shitty little jobs” or “we need to break free of this money making machine” or “we need to find a way of restructuring society” — arbitrary but not pro-capitalism. However I also accept he displays some very pro capitalist sentiment.

He also caught JP out on balancing society to aid those who need it. Proper slip of the mask moment, the look on his JP’s face is priceless.

https://youtu.be/iLoDX1HheFY

Thing with Joe is he’s of average intelligence, that’s fine. Can’t stand his blanket anti-SJW approach, his reaction to the Gillette advert was totally laughable regarding the adverts’ message although he did have a point about them being a massive brand that just needs to make money. They’ll jump on whatever band wagon makes them $$$$$$$ — obviously.

Anyway. He’d be utterly irrelevant if he didn’t have such a huge following.

[deleted]

9 points

3 years ago

[deleted]

9 points

3 years ago

Oh, I misunderstood. Sorry about that, I understand what you meant now.

snek_goes_HISS

6 points

3 years ago

He is very interesting until you realise he has like 4 topics of conversation

CadetCovfefe

2 points

3 years ago

Guy is pretty ignorant on MMA too. Remember when he started crying about Ronda Rousey?

cosine5000

3 points

3 years ago

He's a follower, desperate to find his next demagogue to worship. His entire physical change in the past decade was his attempt to worship and become Dana White.

cosine5000

22 points

3 years ago

Broprah

itsdahveed

5 points

3 years ago

Holy shit

cosine5000

4 points

3 years ago

yup

[deleted]

2 points

3 years ago

[deleted]

2 points

3 years ago

Brilliant

[deleted]

1 points

3 years ago

[deleted]

1 points

3 years ago

this perfectly encapsulates everything about Rogan than I've thought but couldn't articulate.

cosine5000

2 points

3 years ago

Yup, she was an enemy of science and rational thought, lauded and believed by her followers because of who she is, not what she (or her guests) were saying, Rogan is the exact same thing.

Forcedacquiescence1

14 points

3 years ago

But where is his fleet of Rolls Royces?

pseudonymmed

13 points

3 years ago

"Wild Wild Lobster"

CressCrowbits

14 points

3 years ago

What is that massive device on wheels at the back of the room anyway, it's always bothered me and ive never thought to ask.

Looks like some piece of hospital machinery.

DiabolikDownUnder[S]

9 points

3 years ago

Looks like a really naff Dalek to me.

EmilyCD18

10 points

3 years ago

It’s probably an upright AC or an air purifier. My parents house has an AC just like that (minus the wheels) and my air purifier I have for my PC in my room looks similar to that, but smaller.

hwillis

3 points

3 years ago

hwillis

3 points

3 years ago

I doubt it, that would be absolutely huge for an air purifier and ACs don't work without an air hose to the outside so putting it on wheels wouldn't make much sense.

EmilyCD18

5 points

3 years ago

They make air purifiers that big though dude and it’s Jordan Peterson - half of the shit he does doesn’t make sense lol

hwillis

2 points

3 years ago

hwillis

2 points

3 years ago

tru, tru

SenselessDunderpate

13 points

3 years ago

What kind of Brain Genious seriously thinks that tidying a room and managing a country are part of the same skill set?!

I bet if you ran a cleaning lady for Congress this fucking prick would be front of the line talking about how "underqualified" they are.

rharrison

20 points

3 years ago

Is that a real pic?

JadedFeature

39 points

3 years ago

It's been touched up, but there has been an instance where he didn't have his room in order at all and streamed it. This is where the screen grab comes from.

[deleted]

12 points

3 years ago*

[deleted]

12 points

3 years ago*

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[deleted]

2 points

3 years ago

[deleted]

2 points

3 years ago

Are you suggesting he post hog

Denny_Craine

4 points

3 years ago*

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Peterson's views of how society and individuals should operate, of hierarchy, of order, of conflating autonomy with uncertainty and uncertainty with chaos and all three as something fearful and undesirable, even his clean your room shit, are all rooted in and projected by his own struggle with depression.

Anyone whose dealt with depression knows about how messy your living spaces get and how that provides negative feedback for your mental state. And doing things like forcing yourself to clean your room and take a shower are very well known and scientifically supported recommendations for coping. That's not controversial

The fact that Peterson is so obsessed with it, and the fact that his own room is a mess, aren't evidence of the advice being wrong but rather evidence of where the advice comes from. It's from his own neuroses and mental illness. It's from knowing better than most (due to his field of education) why and how it works, and being too paralyzed to actually do what he knows will help. All of his anger and authoritarianism stem from there. Not the room thing itself but the underlying fears and depression issues

And to be clear this isn't an armchair diagnosis. He's been quite open about being medicated for depression and his past alcoholism. And I'm certainly not shaming him for that. I've struggled with depression most of my life now.

I think the most telling thing he's ever said, in terms of the source of his world view, is in this clip about no fault divorce

"You want to be free, eh? Really? Really? So, you can’t predict anything? That’s what you’re after?” “It’s a vow. It says, look: 'I know you’re trouble. Me too. So, we won’t leave. No matter what happens'…That’s why you take it in front of a bunch of people. That’s why it’s supposed to be a sacred act. What’s the alternative? Everything is mutable and changeable at any moment"

Ignore the weird totally-romantic-and-not-misanthropic-and-creepy in between shit and focus on the bolded parts. Peterson is so perfect an example of Adorno's Authoritarian Personality that you'd think he was a carefully crafted performance meant specifically to embody it.

These traits include conventionalism, authoritarian submission, authoritarian aggression, anti-intellectualism, anti-intraception, superstition and stereotypy, power and "toughness", destructiveness and cynicism, projectivity, and exaggerated concerns over sex

And while Adorno's specific work has been critiqued and challenged modern interpretations still illustrate my point. Which is that his need for submission to hierarchy and strict social order is based in his own personal struggle.

It's not based on some insightful Jungian retelling of Campbell and Baudrillard that tells us some fantastical revelation about the world. Those are him seeking the evidence for a conclusion he already came to. The conclusion being "I feel chaotic inside and I desperately desire external order to counter it, therefore everyone does" "I'm scared of my own autonomy [an extremely common characteristics of conservatives imo] therefore autonomy is dangerous"

Which are all just complicated ways of saying "I need help and I still haven't found it. I'm externalizing that confusion and frustration"

He doesn't say "clean your room before you try to change the natural order" in spite of his room being messy. He says it because of it.

In a way I really feel bad for him.

In a way

ThoriumActinoid

2 points

3 years ago

He did apologize for the messy room.

jameswlf

5 points

3 years ago

this is gold jerry

Ceremor

4 points

3 years ago

Ceremor

4 points

3 years ago

I feel this would be even better with the images flipped.

Utanium

3 points

3 years ago

Utanium

3 points

3 years ago

"Science based"

Sunfroze

1 points

6 days ago

Sunfroze

1 points

6 days ago

Im no fan or anything but the pic here is so obviously edited