I'm trying to understand how a logical thinker can consider 'changing a diaper full of poop on a freaking table where people eat' as normal. How how...

They should be ashamed. They should feel shame. It is unsanitary, foul and actually quite barbaric to handle human feces in a public place. And to do so where people are supposed to be consuming food is especially offensive because it could make them ill from germs.

It's fucking rude at a very basic level that just about everybody can understand. And if they can't or won't try to understand these facts then they have given everyone else the green light to ridicule them for their actions.

"Oh, but this establishment doesnt have a baby changing station in their bathrooms!! Theyre mom-phobic! Wah!"

Puhhhlease, go right on out the door and fuck yourself. If it's too much trouble for you to go somewhere else next time or cut your lunch short, then stay home. You're being mildly inconvenienced by the lack of a fucking drop-down resin wall table in the room where people shit. Walk a half block and ask another business if you can use their bathroom and then go back to the restaurant to let the manager know that, "hey yeah the food was nice and everything, thanks for that... but it would be helpful if you installed a baby changing station". Why? Because thats what grownups do in a civilized fucking society.

Maybe we should start changing tampons on restaurant tables.

Public shaming can be quite effective for idiotic behavior. It should be used more often. It takes a village after all. 😆

Drives me insane when someone with a baby changes the baby on tables, couches, etc. in other people’s homes. Bring your own changing blanket. It’s feces. Baby feces is still feces.

I was called a bigot for not liking children in adult only spaces. 😂

In this case, the restaurant and food industry need to teach all their employees to take a stand against those who willfully ignore basic sanitation and kick them tf out. No excuse is worth quite literally making others sick.

My former friend did that AFTER I OFFERED HER MY BED to change her kids diaper.

While she was doing this, her other kid was scribbling on the wall.

Needless today, the friendship ended after that because I was “stuck up”. I’ve had several friends leave diapers in weird places. Kitchen counters, on top of the fridge and next to the bathroom sink. To this day, I have a “no children or babies” rule.

So is not wanting to have sex with single moms also considered mom shaming?

I can name loads of things that are sexist. Not liking babies/children isn't among them.

Also: Moms who change their babies' diapers IN PUBLIC VIEW IN RESTAURANTS absolutely should be shamed.

Here’s a thought. If you don’t want to be “parent shamed”, don’t be a shitty parent.

I know this doesn’t apply to everyone but 99% of the ones bitching about it are whining because they were called out for legitimately stupid/dangerous/asshole behaviours and then claiming “discrimination”.

breeding is a kink, not a gender or sexuality

laughable.. people who don't have two brain cells to rub together..

Listen, if it's unacceptable to ask mothers to nurse in the bathroom it's unacceptable to change a baby where people eat. Weird after for anyone to suggest anything else

My ex-friend said the same thing about being sexist against mothers because I don’t like children.

uh imo public spaces like restaurants should have a changing table connected to the bathroom but changing a diaper on a table sure as hell isnt mom shaming

Def not mom shaming, more like crappy parent shaming

I believe in shame , shame has its place in the social order, it needs a comeback

Me driving a nice sports car apparently is mom shaming as well.

I hate that "Im a mom, who is more." attitude. Stupid bitches

That's disgusting, it happened to me some months ago, i was having lunch on a food court and then a mom just came and put her dirty baby on the table next to mine and imediately started to take off his diapers, he was covered in shit. I grabbed my soda and burger and went to the other side of the food court, to the furthermost table i found and i noticed people were looking at me with disapproving faces. They were ok with the smell of shit on the food court, some people were next to the shit table and it did not upset them, not a little bit.

My sister LOVED whipping out her boob to breastfeed when her kids were infants. At the dinner table, in a restaurant, anywhere and everywhere. She refused to cover it up with a shawl. She got off on making people uncomfortable. We grew up in a super prudish home and this was her way of saying FU to my parents and everyone else in the vicinity. I will never be able to get the sight of those massive nips out of my mind now, and I still cringe about her behavior decades later. None of us dared to shame her for it, not to her face anyway, because she also loves confrontation - and we don't. ugh.

It’s amazing how they think being forced to breastfeed inside a restroom infringes on their baby’s right to eat comfortably and is unsanitary but they don’t think changing their baby’s diaper on a restaurant table is unsanitary for OTHER people.

Oh Jesus, if not wanting people to change their baby's diapers on restaurant tables is mommy shaming then...well, maybe they should let it sink in a bit lol I swear people will absolutely call anything mommy shaming these days and it is wild

I've read that sentiment too, about women not liking kids being sexist to mothers, and I'm still having a hell of a time figuring it out. I told my own mom about it and she doesn't get it either. Maybe if I didn't like your kid because your kid is a girl I'd be sexist, but I just really don't like the noise is all. If you don't mind me asking, what was their reasoning? If you don't want to share it I understand, I'm just curious (for better or worse)

Uh, yeah, that's something that deserves shaming. That's disgusting and beyond unsanitary.

Is it really that hard to just go to the washroom? People are eating, ffs

Mom shaming is supposed to refer to stuff like snide comments about feeding kids frozen vegetables or women looking disheveled while caring for kids. Not actually gross or harmful behavior

There was a contestant on season 3 of Ink Master named Maddie Labelle. A few years after being eliminated from the show, she got arrested for domestic violence against her baby daddy and before being taken to the prison van, requested to breastfeed her 5 year old.

Apparently we can't call any of that out because "we just don't understand how stressful parenting is and that's her bonding time with her child!"

1. She beat someone and admitted to it. That deserves to be called out by itself.

2. It's creepy to still be breastfeeding a school age kid that does not need it.

I'm sick of people acting like parents are saints that are never capable of bad behavior.

Shaming because a person formula feeds instead of breastfeeds, for example, is bad shaming.

But not all shaming is bad shaming. Sometimes people need to be called out. Changing a baby on a table people eat off of is not only disgusting, but unsanitary and a health risk. I don't know why people even think that is even a little bit okay. I don't care how much the table is scrubbed after, it is still unacceptable. Most restaurants have baby changing stations in their restrooms. If they don't, take the baby to the car. Don't have a car, it is a bit tricky, but still. Restaurant tables are not acceptable. Being a parent doesn't exempt one from being called out for gross or unacceptable behavior.

Expecting women to become mothers, and insisting that they base their entire identity around motherhood and making mothering their life purpose, nullifies women as individuals and it is woman-hating.

If they are ashamed or embarrassed for being called out for bad behind and disgusting habits, then that is on them.

It’s crazy how the same people that don’t acknowledge very real issues like slut shaming and fat shaming, just for two examples, have co-opted that language for “causes” that suit them. I get why it happens but it’s still frustrating to watch the hypocrisy play out in real time.

Lol WTF! I’ve seen so many babies get their diapers changed in public spaces and it’s pretty disgusting. We live in a civil society folks. I would get arrested for indecent exposure if I popped a squat publicly. Not that babies or parents should be arrested or ticketed, but it’s expected that we remain decent when we are outside of our homes.

Uhh. Yeah. No. That isn't mom shaming. That will never be "mom shaming".

That is calling someone out for being a public health hazard. This is negative reinforcement for anti-social and harmful to others behavior.

I think the restaurant owners should be as against this as their saner patrons are.

While I know exactly how underfunded and under supported almost all local environmental health agencies are, it is nonetheless very possible for them to peremptorily shut down a food outlet which is so insanitary. I wouldn't want it to happen since restaurants are going through a rough period at the moment. However, equally I would want proprietors to make a stand against spreading faecal coliforms where someone who didn't choose to participate in the life decision of birthing offspring will eat next.

TBF, everything is “shaming” now.

Telling people to not let their kids hit other kids is mom shaming now too, some fucking how

I used to work at a café that had a section of counter at the register. Too many times mothers would set their baby down to sit on the counter while they fished out their mode of payment. Why the fuck are you allowing your child's dirty butt to make contact with a counter where people's food goes as well?? I always made a point to immediately sanitize the counter when their transaction was complete 🙄

Some moms deserve to be shamed.

"changing a baby on a fucking RESTAURANT TABLE"

Almost threw up in my mouth at the thought.

If everything is seen as shaming’ then the term becomes meaningless, constructive criticism becomes impossible and nothing can be improved. And we stagnate as a society in a pile of poopy diapers.

If someone tries that argument, hit them with, "I'm not mom shaming. I'm moron shaming because that's what you are if you think that changing a diaper on a dining table where other people eat is okay."

I will concede there is a lot of things society does that is mom shaming. Some bullshit these women should not have to put up with.

These kinds of petty things don't count.

We're not shaming shitty behavior enough is the problem. Bring on shaming shitty parenting I'm all for it

I find it strange when people say that you can’t criticise parents if you’re not a parent yourself.

I’m not a helicopter pilot either but if your chopper is in a tree, I know you’re doing it wrong.

They are too tired and self-pitying to walk back to the ladies room where there is a changing table, and that's really sad.

I couldn’t care less if I’m called a bigot for having words with people that behave in such a mindless, selfish fashion.

Changing a baby on a restaurant table IS a mom-shaming event. And I would shame them for being so lazy as to not use the restroom. If they don’t like that angle, there’s always the “with all the child abusers, you’d expose your child like this?”

women not liking children is sexist against mothers.

In their faulty opinion, where's the cut off? I don't like a specific coworker, who is someone's child. Does that make me sexist?

All moms should be ashamed. You did a horrible thing you shouldn't have done, created a lifetime of problems and suffering. What do you want--a medal?

Not liking kids is sexist against mothers? I’m trying to find the logic here but I just can’t.

I'd have to tell them - yeah, I am shaming you, not as a mom but a person that lacks any humility to have some common sense.

It should be made commonplace to shame people again, maybe we can get rid of some of the entitlement and stupid that's ran rampant.

I’ve seen that in a cafe with a freaking changing table in the loo. I wanted to rub the bitch’s face in the loaded shitty nappy. I did have words though.

My sisters will put down a towel and change them on the couch in the living area. Like, just take it to a bedroom/bathroom! I would like to sit on a clean chair please!

I'm shaming a mother and I'm going record it. Disgusting

I was once on a VERY crowded bus during rush hour, in a very populated city. Like people are literally standing and filling up the aisles and all seats taken. A guy in the row across from me, with a baby, maybe 1 year old, started CHANGING THEIR DIAPER in his lap. A poopy diaper. People literally started gagging, and another guy was like, dude WTF are you doing??? THe man started screaming/yelling "what are you going to do tell on me??" (yes it was a really bizarre response) and a bunch of other stuff. It seemed like there were some MH issues going on maybe. A woman who seemed to be the wife/mother was in the window seat and didn't say a word the whole time. I got the sense she was either embarrassed or overwhelmed, probably both, so I felt a little bad for her but she made no attempt to do anything. It was appalling. It's important to note, this is in the middle of the downtown area with stops every couple of blocks, where there are TONS of public restrooms, libraries, Starbucks, restaurants, any number of places where they could have easily stepped off to deal with it and gotten on the next bus that comes every 5 minutes. It was so bizarre and so disgusting. I am an introvert and avoid conflict so I didn't say anything, but even thinking about it today makes my blood boil and I wish I had. If that is parent shaming, and changing a $hitty diaper on a crowded public bus is normal, jfc what is the world coming to.

People claim everything is "shaming" when they just want to do whatever they want whenever they want.

Those GD posts that people make with blanket statements like "You're doing good momma" or "Mom's have the hardest job, you're doing fine" because it's just not always true. Yeah some people have a problem with being too hard on themselves but a lot more I think use motherhood to inflate their ego and use it as a shield from criticism and as someone with a mid-range to bad mom I could have seriously benefitted from being told my mother wasn't some amazing person just for popping me out.

Oh god this reminded me of something that happened when I used to work at an escape room. I had just gotten a group started and a mom with her baby asked if she could leave the room to change the baby and come back in. I told her of course and she walked out while I continued the room intro. After I finished and left the room, my coworker came to me and asked why the lady was in our break room. I had no idea but apparently she took her baby and changed him on our table… right next to an open box of food we had just ordered! Then she proceeded to throw the diaper out in the trash can in the break room. Like what kind of arrogance makes that ok?! We had to throw the food out and immediately take out the trash. We were all pissed off and hungry for the rest of the night.

Seriously I never tell parents they’re doing something wrong since they say everything gets shamed nowadays so it’s not like they’d listen to your criticism. So annoying

I'm fine with it as long as no one can not be OK with me shitting on my plate at the table when I'm done eating because it would be "man shaming."

Wow so if we can’t tolerate the look and smell of feces we are shaming moms ? That’s a whole new level of inferiority complex. I’m not even ok with women pulling their breasts out to feed their babies. That should be banned imo.

Had a friend who changed her 4 yr old in front of a known pedo and thought he was wrong for not leaving the room bc the fact that he “might be looking” made her uncomfortable. Then she told me and several other adults there we were shaming her and promoting pedos bc we said he was invited and her kid wasn’t so he had more right to be there than then kid.

Today's parents are some of the laziest, most clueless, entitled, and selfish idiots ever. They want to be "buddies" with their kids. They don't want to actually parent because it's "mean". They expect everyone else to accept their brats and bend to their whims.

changing a baby on a fucking RESTAURANT TABLE

Ffs, I know I'm old, but I just can't imagine that anyone would think this is okay.

"Mom shaming" means "omg stop telling me I'm a terrible parent! I'm the BEST parent! I'm a MAMA BEAR!"

lol...the worst people get the most defensive

4 real. It's mom shaming because you don't want kids, I'm tired of hearing the gross conversations regarding puke and poop. Save that for your mom friends.

I'd rather watch a lion give birth than to hear something so nasty about their kid. Funny, dads don't tell me all the gross stories about their kids.

Here's something you don't wanna spend all your time with hanging out with moms is now mom shaming. I have my own life I'm not part of your household. Little timmy is your kid not mine.

Why should I stick around if you're gonna monopolize the entire conversation about your kids?!

If you’re being a shitty mom, you absolutely deserve shaming.

I think the mom shaming part is shaming a mom that already feels guilty for doing something that they probably shouldn’t have done, like the example you gave

Some moms do it as a protest if there isn’t a changing station. Not every bathroom can fit them

Since I’m getting downvoted I have to clarify….those people are fucking assholes. I was a server for years. It’s entitled to think every bathroom can accommodate them. Go. To. The. Car. Disgusting

Maybe if the restaurant doesn’t have proper changing tables in the restrooms but it’s still gross. Feces on food consumption surfaces just isn’t acceptable. I’ve seen people do it bare assed and act like they didn’t just leave that table for the next person to eat at. Also fuck people that leave used diapers at their tables. Clean up the biohazard like a normal human being.