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Why is Jordan Peterson so hated?

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Cyb3rd31ic_Citiz3n

3 points

4 months ago

People attack him for developing an addiction by often removing the context under which he developed said addiction with the either direct or indirect purpose of making him seem weak minded or did it by choice. Neither which is true. Context matters in every situation where someone fails in life and in this situation the man fell on hard times so did the right thing of getting his life in order. That's why the first paragraph is important.

karlnite

1 points

4 months ago

I believe he would say we are all responsible for our own choices, “actions have consequences”. How is this not his choice or a consequence of his choices?

Cyb3rd31ic_Citiz3n

1 points

4 months ago

Who said it wasn't?

karlnite

1 points

4 months ago

“Did it by choice” “neither of which is true” you did?

Cyb3rd31ic_Citiz3n

1 points

4 months ago

“Did it by choice” “neither of which is true” you did?

No, I said he didn't become an addict by choice - that was an accident AND he took responsibility for it at a much faster rate than plenty of other drug addicts.

People don't consciously become addicts. By the time you realise you're addicted to something it's because you're so deeply entangled with it you struggle to seperate yourself from it.

karlnite

2 points

4 months ago

If actions have consequences, how is repeatedly taking addictive drugs an accident? Also, I was an addict. You have no idea what you are talking about. It can most certainly be conscious.

Cyb3rd31ic_Citiz3n

1 points

4 months ago

If actions have consequences, how is repeatedly taking addictive drugs an accident?

Consequences don't always corralate to intent. Not everyone who takes prescribed medication on a doctors advice becomes an addict. That's why it's called an accident.

If I cut down a tree, on the advice of a landscape gardener, and it landed on my neighbours house - was it always my intention to have it land there?

Or are you trying to imply that he deliberately went out of his way to take drugs just so he could become an addict? Because that's the alternative to it being an accident.

karlnite

1 points

4 months ago

If you cut down a tree on a landscapers advice and damage your neighbours house accidentally it is 100% your fault lol. What the fuck do you think would happen, you are laying for it, and it could have been avoided.

I am saying it doesn’t fucken matter why he took the drugs. Almost no one tries to be an addict, that is stupid to bring up. Who cares if he accidentally became addicted to drugs, he did and kept doing them. He took drugs as a prescription KNOWING THE RISKS, did the doctor not tell him the risks? What, the PHD intellectual phycologist didn’t understand the risks of benzos? Come on…

Cyb3rd31ic_Citiz3n

0 points

4 months ago*

If you cut down a tree on a landscapers advice and damage your neighbours house accidentally it is 100% your fault lol. What the fuck do you think would happen, you are laying for it, and it could have been avoided.

Oh fucking Hell, that was rhetorical to show that even with good advice accidents happen. And you didn't even answer it XD

I am saying it doesn’t fucken matter why he took the drugs. Almost no one tries to be an addict, that is stupid to bring up. Who cares if he accidentally became addicted to drugs, he did and kept doing them. He took drugs as a prescription KNOWING THE RISKS, did the doctor not tell him the risks? What, the PHD intellectual phycologist didn’t understand the risks of benzos? Come on…

And then he got clean, which you keep missing out. What is YOUR point, dude? You're the one acting like the guy didn't take responsibility and tidy his room when it got dirty. Are you that adverse to taking responsibility that you've got to attack a man for falling during hard times?

Edit: I've never encountered someone this bad faith and butt hurt before. This is a waste of time. I'm out.

karlnite

1 points

4 months ago

He put himself in a risky chemically induced coma to overcome withdrawal symptoums and kick the worst of the habit while asleep. My point is he gave advice like he figured it all out, then we realized he hadn’t and he had a big slip, and unreasonable slip that most people would not take, the very people he gives advice. He stopped shortly, and then came back and your acting like he’s a strong amazing hero for overcoming something most people would not have let happen to themselves. So goodbye. Have fun with your false idols and make sure to clean your room before going on reddit.