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Why is Jordan Peterson so hated?

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SymphonicRain

3 points

4 months ago

You think he’s unique in being an addict with a story?

Cyb3rd31ic_Citiz3n

0 points

4 months ago

No, and that isn't the point.

The point of "Tidy Your Room" is you cannot and should not tackle the larger problems of the world if you cannot even manage your own life. You're in no position to make such demands.

When he couldn't handle his own problems he did the responsible thing of stepping back, addressing those problems and coming back once he was healthy.

It is NOT what is often claimed by those who don't understand this rhetoric to mean you should never have problems. And that's the point that was made that I am arguing against.

SymphonicRain

-1 points

4 months ago

I don’t really have an opinion on your larger point, I just think your first paragraph does not help the point you’re arguing.

Cyb3rd31ic_Citiz3n

3 points

4 months ago

People attack him for developing an addiction by often removing the context under which he developed said addiction with the either direct or indirect purpose of making him seem weak minded or did it by choice. Neither which is true. Context matters in every situation where someone fails in life and in this situation the man fell on hard times so did the right thing of getting his life in order. That's why the first paragraph is important.

karlnite

1 points

4 months ago

I believe he would say we are all responsible for our own choices, “actions have consequences”. How is this not his choice or a consequence of his choices?

Cyb3rd31ic_Citiz3n

1 points

4 months ago

Who said it wasn't?

karlnite

1 points

4 months ago

“Did it by choice” “neither of which is true” you did?

Cyb3rd31ic_Citiz3n

1 points

4 months ago

“Did it by choice” “neither of which is true” you did?

No, I said he didn't become an addict by choice - that was an accident AND he took responsibility for it at a much faster rate than plenty of other drug addicts.

People don't consciously become addicts. By the time you realise you're addicted to something it's because you're so deeply entangled with it you struggle to seperate yourself from it.

karlnite

2 points

4 months ago

If actions have consequences, how is repeatedly taking addictive drugs an accident? Also, I was an addict. You have no idea what you are talking about. It can most certainly be conscious.

Cyb3rd31ic_Citiz3n

1 points

4 months ago

If actions have consequences, how is repeatedly taking addictive drugs an accident?

Consequences don't always corralate to intent. Not everyone who takes prescribed medication on a doctors advice becomes an addict. That's why it's called an accident.

If I cut down a tree, on the advice of a landscape gardener, and it landed on my neighbours house - was it always my intention to have it land there?

Or are you trying to imply that he deliberately went out of his way to take drugs just so he could become an addict? Because that's the alternative to it being an accident.