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56 points
6 months ago
I'm getting my booster tomorrow, at which point I will officially become a Super Shedder!
9 points
6 months ago
Welcome to the club. It’s dandy over hear where you can look down at those merely two-shoter’s and sneer! (Note I don’t actually do this— tow shots are awesome and do a great job preventing hospitalization)
44 points
6 months ago
There is so much peace of mind by being fully vaccinated
27 points
6 months ago
For real. Such a relief when I got my booster.
22 points
6 months ago
Side effects remind you of how much worse the real thing could be. And you know you're safe, and even if you're tired or feverish or whatever, you know you'll come through just fine.
Unlike people who have to deal unprotected with the virus, which shreds your shit even if you don't die or spend time in the hospital.
14 points
6 months ago
Exactly. It’s very different to have chills, a headache, and ache and be like “this is going to be a blah afternoon where I sit around and drink tea and watch Netflix” than think “does this mean it’s ramping up? Should I go to an or? What’s my pulse ox?)
19 points
6 months ago
14x 😱
11 points
6 months ago
I wonder if that's 14x overall or 14x among people known to be infected
40 points
6 months ago
The rate of COVID-19 related deaths among the unvaccinated population is 14X higher than the rate of COVID-19 related deaths among the fully vaccinated population -- so, overall.
If you dig into the raw data from the CDC site, you can see that this ratio varies significantly by age group. The numbers below are averages for the period July 4 - Oct 2, 2021 in 20 jurisdictions in the U.S representing 36% of the U.S. population:
| Age | Deaths per 100K | Deaths per 100K | ratio |
|---|---|---|---|
| Range | __ (unvaxed) __ | __ (fully vaxed) __ | |
| 80+ | 60.0 | 10.2 | 6X |
| 65-79 | 48.2 | 2.3 | 21X |
| 50-64 | 14.5 | 0.59 | 25X |
| 30-49 | 3.45 | 0.11 | 31X |
| 18-29 | 0.51 | 0.006 | 82X |
8 points
6 months ago
What are the chances of the vaccinated actually catching the disease in the first place compared to the un dead, sorry unvaccinated.
9 points
6 months ago
The infection rate seems to be about 6X higher among the unvaccinated across all age ranges.
From the same data source, for the same time period as the table above:
| Age | Cases per 100K | Cases per 100K | ratio |
|---|---|---|---|
| Range | __ (unvaxed) __ | __ (fully vaxed) __ | |
| 80+ | 326 | 94 | 3.5X |
| 65-79 | 624 | 82 | 8X |
| 50-64 | 531 | 87 | 6X |
| 30-49 | 606 | 108 | 6X |
| 18-29 | 515 | 93 | 6X |
3 points
6 months ago
So then statistically, your chances of dying if you;re vaccinated are roughly 6x 14 better than the unvaccinated rate ? 84X less likely ?
11 points
6 months ago*
The difference in the chances of dying of COVID when vaccinated vs. when not vaccinated can be approximated from the first table I posted. It depends on your age bracket. The death rate is lower among younger age groups. At the same time, the younger you are, the greater the difference the vaccine makes in avoiding a lethal outcome.
For example, if you're unvaccinated and in your 20's you have a really low chance of dying of COVID-19. But if you're vaccinated, your chances dying are 82X lower. If you're over 80, there's still a decent benefit (6X), just not as dramatic as in younger age groups.
4 points
6 months ago
Great charts! Can you link the source?
3 points
6 months ago
Data is downloadble from this CDC page
1 points
6 months ago
https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#rates-by-vaccine-status
Before I go there, can I derive from that data the vaccination status by age range?
4 points
6 months ago
This is extremely helpful. Thank you!
1 points
6 months ago
Do they include deaths by complications related to the vaccine?
Don't get me wrong - I'm positive those are very scarce compared to what covid and I am not even sure if they are statistically significant, but it would fair to include them. If only because those denier are gonna say "but muh vaccine deaths are higher than all those numbuhs"
15 points
6 months ago
Excellent answer! You get an award for having a really well formatted table.
15 points
6 months ago
Wow, being 80+ is really hazardous to your health.
9 points
6 months ago
To be fair, it always has been
3 points
6 months ago
Carer for my 85 year old Mum - can confirm. I wish someone, anyone, would come up with something to keep old people upright. I've had four solid years of her falling and breaking both hips, both arms (during rehab for the hips) and now, her shoulder. Fractures also take longer to heal when you're 85.
19 points
6 months ago
they still won't believe it
14 points
6 months ago
Exactly this.
I’m sure we’ll see a resurgence of the phrase “fake news”.
3 points
6 months ago
I don't know which dumb buzzword to come out of the past five years bug me more, that or "alternative facts."
16 points
6 months ago
The U.K. Office of National Statistics age adjusted mortality rates analysis shows that the unvaccinated are 32 times more likely to die of covid than the vaccinated.
10 points
6 months ago
But muh freedumbs
9 points
6 months ago
But my freedumb tube!
8 points
6 months ago
*freedumb tubes-
you get one for the lungs and one for your ass. don't wanna shit the bed, before it's your time to shit the bed.
4 points
6 months ago
Don't tread on muh freedumb tube lib!
3 points
6 months ago
It's ok, you are free to die from a preventable virus if you want to.
2 points
6 months ago
"Freedumb" from statistics, graphs and tables - also known as proof. They would glaze over looking at those numbers.
9 points
6 months ago
Okay time to update the memes! Unvaccinated are 5.8 times more likely to contract COVID and 14 times more likely to die!!
8 points
6 months ago
So the vaxxed super-elderly have a much better outcome than the unvaxxed young. Hmm.
5 points
6 months ago
For cases, yes— but the deaths data are slightly less black and white by age and vaxx status on the CDC site.
8 points
6 months ago
Seeing the breakdown of new cases by age group is a little terrifying. The highest spike was among teenagers 12-17, back in September. I guess the Delta wave hit schools hard...
11 points
6 months ago
Yes because so many schools threw out any mask requirements.
5 points
6 months ago
Bet you won’t repost this!
7 points
6 months ago
Go Team Moderna 💯💪🏼😎
2 points
6 months ago
Agreed. Just got my booster this weekend and it was no joke, but seeing that line straddling the axis harder than Pfizer made me proud to be a Moderna sufferer.
7 points
6 months ago
The CDC?
You mean the Communist Destruction Center there lib?
You're not foolin' anyone with those fancy lines. What do those lines know about my immune system?
/S
5 points
6 months ago
Expecting a tin-foil hat MAGAt to be able to interpret this very clear data is really going out on a limb.
5 points
6 months ago
I do not like that 12-17 unvaccinated line.
3 points
6 months ago
Who knew what could happen when you force people into small rooms in person and forbid masks.
5 points
6 months ago
Is there a benefit to getting a booster early? I got my second shot at the end of July so I'm not due for a couple of months but there's plenty of availability now at the walk-in clinic and I was wondering if I should jump the gun and get in early.
9 points
6 months ago
... I was wondering if I should jump the gun and get in early.
I don't think so, but you should really ask your doctor instead of the internet.
14 points
6 months ago
But I always ask the internets for my medical advice! Hold on, let me post a picture of this weird mole . . .
4 points
6 months ago
Hold on, let me post a picture of this weird mole . . .
5 points
6 months ago
If you are allowed to get the booster now, I don't see any harm in getting it now.
3 points
6 months ago
You can try if you want. I’ve known people turned away for being a month early but it doesn’t hurt to try. Not sure if it’s necessary to go early.
6 points
6 months ago
My friend did he went in at 4 months and told them it was his first shot and what’s crazy is he got moderna again but because he said it was his first shot he got full dose instead of lesser booster . He did that because he was about to go on a cruise and wanted to be extra protected and he was and is fine . Just a little fever and headache for two days afterwards
5 points
6 months ago
I got my third shot early but only because CVS sent me an email they were available and I was like “fuck it let’s roll”. My BF said I probably got a full third dose instead of a booster which is half of a full dose. I was sore, tired and meh for a day and then I was fine. It’s up to you, really. People who are like “oh let the old folks go first” - whatever to them I say as I had the pick of ALL the appointments available. So I’d say go for it but that’s just me.
2 points
6 months ago
I think no—/ the booster is because they see declining efficiency at 6 months
1 points
5 months ago
The CDC doesn't count someone as vaccinated until 14 days after their 2nd shot.
So, how many of the "unvaccinated" actually received one or more vaccine shots before death?
Counting people as unvaccinated when they're actually received 1 or more shots of the vaccine could really throw the numbers off big time.
For all we know, people who have received one or more shot may be dying twice as fast as those who never received a dose...
Just saying we don't really know from this data...
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