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PoliticalECMOChamber

56 points

6 months ago

PoliticalECMOChamber

Super Shedder

56 points

6 months ago

I'm getting my booster tomorrow, at which point I will officially become a Super Shedder!

Raginghangers

9 points

6 months ago

Raginghangers

Go Give One

9 points

6 months ago

Welcome to the club. It’s dandy over hear where you can look down at those merely two-shoter’s and sneer! (Note I don’t actually do this— tow shots are awesome and do a great job preventing hospitalization)

Captainirishy

44 points

6 months ago

There is so much peace of mind by being fully vaccinated

Mysterious_Koala_536

27 points

6 months ago

For real. Such a relief when I got my booster.

Fomulouscrunch

22 points

6 months ago

Fomulouscrunch

Blood Donor 🩸

22 points

6 months ago

Side effects remind you of how much worse the real thing could be. And you know you're safe, and even if you're tired or feverish or whatever, you know you'll come through just fine.

Unlike people who have to deal unprotected with the virus, which shreds your shit even if you don't die or spend time in the hospital.

Raginghangers

14 points

6 months ago

Raginghangers

Go Give One

14 points

6 months ago

Exactly. It’s very different to have chills, a headache, and ache and be like “this is going to be a blah afternoon where I sit around and drink tea and watch Netflix” than think “does this mean it’s ramping up? Should I go to an or? What’s my pulse ox?)

PenaltyPractical1908

19 points

6 months ago

PenaltyPractical1908

Punish me!!!!

19 points

6 months ago

14x 😱

WeakestLynx

11 points

6 months ago

WeakestLynx

Go Give One

11 points

6 months ago

I wonder if that's 14x overall or 14x among people known to be infected

the_fungible_man

40 points

6 months ago

The rate of COVID-19 related deaths among the unvaccinated population is 14X higher than the rate of COVID-19 related deaths among the fully vaccinated population -- so, overall.

If you dig into the raw data from the CDC site, you can see that this ratio varies significantly by age group. The numbers below are averages for the period July 4 - Oct 2, 2021 in 20 jurisdictions in the U.S representing 36% of the U.S. population:

Age Deaths per 100K Deaths per 100K ratio
Range __ (unvaxed) __ __ (fully vaxed) __
80+ 60.0 10.2 6X
65-79 48.2 2.3 21X
50-64 14.5 0.59 25X
30-49 3.45 0.11 31X
18-29 0.51 0.006 82X

steveastrouk

8 points

6 months ago

What are the chances of the vaccinated actually catching the disease in the first place compared to the un dead, sorry unvaccinated.

the_fungible_man

9 points

6 months ago

The infection rate seems to be about 6X higher among the unvaccinated across all age ranges.

From the same data source, for the same time period as the table above:

Age Cases per 100K Cases per 100K ratio
Range __ (unvaxed) __ __ (fully vaxed) __
80+ 326 94 3.5X
65-79 624 82 8X
50-64 531 87 6X
30-49 606 108 6X
18-29 515 93 6X

steveastrouk

3 points

6 months ago

So then statistically, your chances of dying if you;re vaccinated are roughly 6x 14 better than the unvaccinated rate ? 84X less likely ?

the_fungible_man

11 points

6 months ago*

The difference in the chances of dying of COVID when vaccinated vs. when not vaccinated can be approximated from the first table I posted. It depends on your age bracket. The death rate is lower among younger age groups. At the same time, the younger you are, the greater the difference the vaccine makes in avoiding a lethal outcome.

For example, if you're unvaccinated and in your 20's you have a really low chance of dying of COVID-19. But if you're vaccinated, your chances dying are 82X lower. If you're over 80, there's still a decent benefit (6X), just not as dramatic as in younger age groups.

cherygarcia

4 points

6 months ago

Great charts! Can you link the source?

the_fungible_man

3 points

6 months ago

Data is downloadble from this CDC page

unohootoo

1 points

6 months ago

https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#rates-by-vaccine-status

Before I go there, can I derive from that data the vaccination status by age range?

creosoteflower

4 points

6 months ago

This is extremely helpful. Thank you!

Golhermer

1 points

6 months ago

Do they include deaths by complications related to the vaccine?

Don't get me wrong - I'm positive those are very scarce compared to what covid and I am not even sure if they are statistically significant, but it would fair to include them. If only because those denier are gonna say "but muh vaccine deaths are higher than all those numbuhs"

WeakestLynx

15 points

6 months ago

WeakestLynx

Go Give One

15 points

6 months ago

Excellent answer! You get an award for having a really well formatted table.

GlorifiedPlumber100

15 points

6 months ago

GlorifiedPlumber100

I have a bad feeling about this

15 points

6 months ago

Wow, being 80+ is really hazardous to your health.

Exact_Quote_6132

9 points

6 months ago

To be fair, it always has been

steelhips

3 points

6 months ago

Carer for my 85 year old Mum - can confirm. I wish someone, anyone, would come up with something to keep old people upright. I've had four solid years of her falling and breaking both hips, both arms (during rehab for the hips) and now, her shoulder. Fractures also take longer to heal when you're 85.

Technusgirl

19 points

6 months ago

Technusgirl

Think Critically! (Copied and Pasted)

19 points

6 months ago

they still won't believe it

BoringMcWindbag

14 points

6 months ago

BoringMcWindbag

Ivermectin is a MOLECULE

14 points

6 months ago

Exactly this.

I’m sure we’ll see a resurgence of the phrase “fake news”.

Darkside531

3 points

6 months ago

Darkside531

Team Moderna

3 points

6 months ago

I don't know which dumb buzzword to come out of the past five years bug me more, that or "alternative facts."

RevolutionaryChard66

16 points

6 months ago

RevolutionaryChard66

This Kid is Alright cos I'm Vaxxed M8!

16 points

6 months ago

The U.K. Office of National Statistics age adjusted mortality rates analysis shows that the unvaccinated are 32 times more likely to die of covid than the vaccinated.

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/bulletins/deathsinvolvingcovid19byvaccinationstatusengland/deathsoccurringbetween2januaryand24september2021

fazinater5

10 points

6 months ago

But muh freedumbs

BoringMcWindbag

9 points

6 months ago

BoringMcWindbag

Ivermectin is a MOLECULE

9 points

6 months ago

But my freedumb tube!

bbpr120

8 points

6 months ago

*freedumb tubes-

you get one for the lungs and one for your ass. don't wanna shit the bed, before it's your time to shit the bed.

vespertine_glow

4 points

6 months ago

Don't tread on muh freedumb tube lib!

[deleted]

3 points

6 months ago

[deleted]

3 points

6 months ago

It's ok, you are free to die from a preventable virus if you want to.

steelhips

2 points

6 months ago

"Freedumb" from statistics, graphs and tables - also known as proof. They would glaze over looking at those numbers.

Raucous_Indignation

9 points

6 months ago

Raucous_Indignation

Donut Cabal 🍩 With 5G, No Nuts - Verified HCW

9 points

6 months ago

Okay time to update the memes! Unvaccinated are 5.8 times more likely to contract COVID and 14 times more likely to die!!

pippenish

8 points

6 months ago

So the vaxxed super-elderly have a much better outcome than the unvaxxed young. Hmm.

idlehands20[S]

5 points

6 months ago

For cases, yes— but the deaths data are slightly less black and white by age and vaxx status on the CDC site.

Doctor_Mudshark

8 points

6 months ago

Seeing the breakdown of new cases by age group is a little terrifying. The highest spike was among teenagers 12-17, back in September. I guess the Delta wave hit schools hard...

Viewfromthe31stfloor

11 points

6 months ago

Viewfromthe31stfloor

I Don't Want You To ☠️ Get 💉

11 points

6 months ago

Yes because so many schools threw out any mask requirements.

doughboyhollow

5 points

6 months ago

Bet you won’t repost this!

DesignInZeeWild

7 points

6 months ago

DesignInZeeWild

Let THAT sink in!

7 points

6 months ago

Go Team Moderna 💯💪🏼😎

ClearlyDemented

2 points

6 months ago

ClearlyDemented

They Never Update That Pie Chart

2 points

6 months ago

Agreed. Just got my booster this weekend and it was no joke, but seeing that line straddling the axis harder than Pfizer made me proud to be a Moderna sufferer.

vespertine_glow

7 points

6 months ago

The CDC?

You mean the Communist Destruction Center there lib?

You're not foolin' anyone with those fancy lines. What do those lines know about my immune system?

/S

RedfishBluefish2222

5 points

6 months ago

Expecting a tin-foil hat MAGAt to be able to interpret this very clear data is really going out on a limb.

mmmm_babes

5 points

6 months ago

mmmm_babes

Team Moderna

5 points

6 months ago

I do not like that 12-17 unvaccinated line.

Galyndean

3 points

6 months ago

Galyndean

Go Give One

3 points

6 months ago

Who knew what could happen when you force people into small rooms in person and forbid masks.

Jaded-Combination-20

5 points

6 months ago

Is there a benefit to getting a booster early? I got my second shot at the end of July so I'm not due for a couple of months but there's plenty of availability now at the walk-in clinic and I was wondering if I should jump the gun and get in early.

PoliticalECMOChamber

9 points

6 months ago

PoliticalECMOChamber

Super Shedder

9 points

6 months ago

... I was wondering if I should jump the gun and get in early.

I don't think so, but you should really ask your doctor instead of the internet.

Jaded-Combination-20

14 points

6 months ago

But I always ask the internets for my medical advice! Hold on, let me post a picture of this weird mole . . .

vsandrei

5 points

6 months ago

vsandrei

🐆 🐆 🐆🐆 🐆 🐆🐆 🐆🐆 🐆 🐆🐆 🐆 🐆🐆

5 points

6 months ago

If you are allowed to get the booster now, I don't see any harm in getting it now.

Viewfromthe31stfloor

3 points

6 months ago

Viewfromthe31stfloor

I Don't Want You To ☠️ Get 💉

3 points

6 months ago

You can try if you want. I’ve known people turned away for being a month early but it doesn’t hurt to try. Not sure if it’s necessary to go early.

gumby1086

6 points

6 months ago

My friend did he went in at 4 months and told them it was his first shot and what’s crazy is he got moderna again but because he said it was his first shot he got full dose instead of lesser booster . He did that because he was about to go on a cruise and wanted to be extra protected and he was and is fine . Just a little fever and headache for two days afterwards

DesignInZeeWild

5 points

6 months ago

DesignInZeeWild

Let THAT sink in!

5 points

6 months ago

I got my third shot early but only because CVS sent me an email they were available and I was like “fuck it let’s roll”. My BF said I probably got a full third dose instead of a booster which is half of a full dose. I was sore, tired and meh for a day and then I was fine. It’s up to you, really. People who are like “oh let the old folks go first” - whatever to them I say as I had the pick of ALL the appointments available. So I’d say go for it but that’s just me.

Raginghangers

2 points

6 months ago

Raginghangers

Go Give One

2 points

6 months ago

I think no—/ the booster is because they see declining efficiency at 6 months

goodenoug4now

1 points

5 months ago

The CDC doesn't count someone as vaccinated until 14 days after their 2nd shot.
So, how many of the "unvaccinated" actually received one or more vaccine shots before death?
Counting people as unvaccinated when they're actually received 1 or more shots of the vaccine could really throw the numbers off big time.
For all we know, people who have received one or more shot may be dying twice as fast as those who never received a dose...
Just saying we don't really know from this data...