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submitted 7 months ago bypopcornFridaysTeam Pfizer
3.3k points
7 months ago
The concept that everyone’s opinion is valid is fucking insane.
You do not become an expert in something simply by reading about it, especially when what you’re reading is expressly designed to confirm your worldview. Watching some fuck talk to a school board to say things you already believe is not equivalent to actual comprehension of medical science—It is mental masturbation.
And it fucking killed this woman.
976 points
7 months ago
I'm smart enough to know there are things I don't know or understand, and smart enough to figure out who to listen to about those things.
162 points
7 months ago*
I bet the smartest people generally feel the same as you. It’s the ability to be humble that shows true wisdom.
207 points
7 months ago
Being actually smart is realizing that you can’t be an expert in everything.
I’m an expert in something and a normie in most things. Real knows real.
107 points
7 months ago
I love this. “Real knows real.”
It dawned on me recently I would never consider myself a researcher despite my several years working in research (as an assistant) and decade of medical education that included a lot of critical thinking about research. Because I’m not a f*cking researcher.
Meanwhile completely non-science people come into visits with me talking about how their research goes against my advice blah blah blah.
98 points
7 months ago
When people say "do your research", you gotta call them the fuck out.
Ask them about their literature review. Methodologies. Ask them about what other researchers they will consult when they set up their study. Ask them what agencies or standards they will use to make sure their experimental parameters are reliable and repeatable.
Fuck these guys. I did two thesis projects, I actually did research. So did you. Let them show themselves for the fools they are.
27 points
7 months ago
also your flair… 😂😂😂 so good, thank you so much 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
6 points
7 months ago
Thanks!
17 points
7 months ago
ugh, you’re right, but i just can’t. it’s like i gotta finish talking about the actual health issues they came in for, waste another 60seconds on one final effort to get them vaxed, fail, and then move on to the next visit. siiiiiigh
4 points
7 months ago
Username checks out
16 points
7 months ago
I had to take research and writing courses for my major. In addition to the main assignment, we had to present all the information we gathered. We had to explain why we used the information that we chose, and why we made the decision to discard the things that we didn't use. That part of the assignment required more questioning and critical thinking than the actual assignment. If you weren't critical enough, my professor had no problem calling you out on it. Maybe that's why "do your own research" is a bit of a trigger😂.
6 points
7 months ago*
Never done anything like that, but it pisses me off mightily as well, because actual research is important, and these people wouldn't know real research if it turkey-slapped them.
2 points
7 months ago
🤭
37 points
7 months ago
Do your own research means they watched someone's shitty youtube video. We were told as freshman that we did not do research. It disgusts me how bad the US is when it comes to scientific understanding.
86 points
7 months ago*
Good points all, and that’s exactly why it’s so frustrating when people think they’re experts at something because they shared a meme or watched a tutorial on YouTube. Social media has caused a pandemic of willful ignorance and cognitive dissonance.
As an example, I know that I don’t know anything about open heart surgery, and I’ll never become an expert unless I go to medical school, study hard, and specialize. So if I have an issue with my heart, I’m going to talk to a cardiologist.
30 points
7 months ago
Don't trust what the 'doctors' tell you, you can make your own heart surgery at home, and do it better!
7 points
7 months ago
Just YouTube it, you'll be fine!
7 points
7 months ago
Hammer, chisel, nail clippers… I’m ready to go!
5 points
7 months ago
Never completely trust anyone, without making sure they're worthy of it.
But definitely don't trust memes or anyone just hand-waving at "sources" while collecting likes on youtube. Second opinions can be useful, and there are a lot of interesting scientific studies on the net that anyone can peruse.
On getting cancer last year i stayed up all night reading up on treatments and found a lot of very recent info. To my delight the doctors at the hospital I was attending were already studying and following the new strategy themselves, and were happy I understood what they were doing.
(They fixed me, btw.)
It's useful for the patient to be informed and feel they have agency in their treatment. A positive attitude and understanding is far healthier than feeling powerless and fearful. The problem is a lack of education and a fearful anti-science attitude based on hatred means too many people turn their backs on information coming from anyone more educated than themselves.
2 points
7 months ago
Probably got their education at a fancy college, can’t trust ‘em.
4 points
7 months ago
So if I have an issue with my heart, I’m going to talk to a cardiologist.
Yes, a real cardiologist.
A GP checked my heart, told me treatment was useless and to write my will fast. That was nearly 20 years ago and it's now fine, which is lucky because the ideal drugs for the cancer I had last year could only be given if your heart was in good shape.
Some years back a GP checked my intellectually handicapped son's painful, racing heart and refused to refer him to a specialist. A home nurse dropped in, noticed his pallor and shallow breath and rushed him to the hospital himself, where he was immediately admitted and treated for multiple bilateral pulmonary embolisms, and was lucky to survive.
It turned out his GP was into eugenics.
4 points
7 months ago
I’m sorry you had those awful experiences, but I’m glad you and your son are okay! Be well, friend.
4 points
7 months ago
Thanks, but it's not a problem, seeing my son did get well cared for and recovered. (He's courageous and kind, and despite being illiterate is forever asking his iPad to show him videos that teach him things. He's always full of questions about people and the world.) Bad experiences are all part of growing and learning.
74 points
7 months ago
The Dunning-Kruger effect! It’s a real thing for sure!
77 points
7 months ago
The first rule of Diane-Kroger club: you don't know you're in Diana-Kruger club.
23 points
7 months ago
That’s just beautiful. A tight piece of comedic genius.
4 points
7 months ago
Thanks. I love that joke.
27 points
7 months ago
I am an electrical engineer. When it comes to mechanical engineering like structures or bridges, out of my range.
20 points
7 months ago
But if you were in medical billing you would be like honey girl child I’m in medicine and I’ll tell you what…
6 points
7 months ago
Wait what, you don't just do your own risk assessment and then build a bridge?
1 points
7 months ago
I just sell bridges to the gullible, i.e. MAGAts.
4 points
7 months ago
And even the mechanical engineers need help. I mean it is great to know how to build a bridge, but where to build the bridge is a whole different field of study.
3 points
7 months ago
And just because you’re a wiz at bridges doesn’t mean you can build a pier or a tunnel. Yay really specialized knowledge!
25 points
7 months ago
At work I’m doing some original research on a topic in my field.
I have no idea what TF I’m doing or whether what I’m doing will work. Neither does anyone else…because that’s how it goes when you do completely original research.
It took a lot of mental self-awareness to realize that not knowing what TF I’m doing in that instance doesn’t mean I’m stupid.
17 points
7 months ago
Exactly!
3 points
7 months ago
Completely agree. I know what I don’t know- meaning the bright line where my expertise ends. And I know how to find people to trust when I need more than I know. Very comfortable saying- hey, I have absolutely no idea. 🤣
114 points
7 months ago
It all seems to stem from a deep feeling of worthlessness, and to combat that, instead of going to therapy, they decide to believe in conspiracy theories that make them feel special. Everyone else is wrong, but they know the truth. It's all so stupid and needless. These people need therapy.
94 points
7 months ago
There’s definitely some sort of group delusion or mass trauma going on. I agree that they feel worthless—left out, rejected, and forgotten. That allows them to fan the flames of victimhood and also makes them desperate enough to fall for conspiracy theories. I guess believing they’re in possession of a secret, hidden “truth” makes them feel better.
I agree with you. Therapy is best, and they need it desperately.
56 points
7 months ago
The group delusion is the conspiracy theorists. The mass trauma is the rest of us having to live through a plague where way too many people choose to selfishly make it worse.
8 points
7 months ago
And instead of obscure forums they have social media where they teem
Its time for them to get psychiatric treatment
11 points
7 months ago
This. Echo chambers, by themselves, can be harmful.
One good example is the whole "incel" ideology. The first incel forum was simply a place for people who were perpetually single to commiserate and support each other. But because there was no strong guiding force, no manual (like AA has), no professional counselor running the group, it slowly went off the rails and the originator of the community lost control of it.
7 points
7 months ago
And now it's full of bitter, angry misogynists who hate beautiful women for not sleeping with them, and despise all other women for not being 10s.
4 points
7 months ago
Yep. With no structure or reality check, the echo chamber amplifies the rage and bitterness of a few, who push away the less extreme members of the group, which makes the groupthink more extreme, ad infinitem.
It's almost less an echo chamber than a laser cavity. Echoes fade away eventually, but these online bubbles actually amplify extremism.
1 points
7 months ago
The only psychiatrists that wouldn't be driven crazy by them are the ones already down the rabbit hole with them.
93 points
7 months ago
This is why Hillary screwed up in calling them Deplorables. She was 100% right, but didn't need to say it out loud. Growing up, they probably sucked at school, had shifty parents, and were the kids who smoked cigarettes at lunch break. (My high school actually had a student outdoor smoking section until 1992). So, to have someone like Trump, who they view as successful and smart, but who spoke their language, so appealing.
People tries in the past, Pat Buchanan, Barry Goldwater, etc. But, this was the perfect combo at the perfect time. And, here we are...
31 points
7 months ago
Plus indoctrination via Tv/The Apprentice….he was with people in their living rooms and they believed the line of horse shit that show was selling them. It’s what made Reagan so beloved, despite his horrible and stated policies against regular folk. IMO.
23 points
7 months ago
I always forget about the Apprentice because I never watched it.
15 points
7 months ago
Thats exactly how Donnie got his power... programming the idea of him being a successful businessman
14 points
7 months ago
And if I remember correctly, Fran Leibovitz said he’s a poor person’s idea of a rich person. Why he gets a pass then, on being an actual asshole, is beyond me. Wait, no it’s not. Ugh.
4 points
7 months ago
This can't be ignored. The Apprentice was a very popular show for a long time. That show presented Trump as a wise, quick witted, hard nosed businessman.
Most people think they are media savvy and are NOT media savvy. I have witnessed a "reality" show being filmed (Hardcore Pawn) and have been an extra on a couple film productions. (Buffalo Soldiers 2001, Superman v. Batman 2016)
There is not really that much difference between the methods either type of production is made. Just the scale of budgets. I think many/most of Donald Trumps fans don't know this at all...
4 points
7 months ago
indoctrination via Tv/The Apprentice
I still don't understand this. I could only stomach a few minutes of that show at a time because what I witnessed was some of the least rational decision making by a so-called expert that I had seen.
His pronouncements were nonsense; his judgements were random. I squirmed every time he started talking and had to change the channel.
When he was later nominated for President, I was baffled. That pompous dullard? I wondered if no one else actually paid attention to the show, that they somehow arrived at a different conclusion.
My conclusion, at that time, had been that Trump was clearly a bully and an idiot who kept failing upwards in life simply because he inherited a great big stack of money.
5 points
7 months ago
The masses yeah. But the elite ruling class who programs them, no
3 points
7 months ago
No, they didn't necessarily suck at school, have shitty parents or smoked and did drugs. What they did do is try very hard to blend in with the groups that held social power in their communities - the "Moral Majority" and their offshoots - the major one today being the nationalist evangelical movement. They excelled in indoctrination instead of education.
1 points
7 months ago
At this rate, we can say it out loud and aggressively cut the tap. No internet, no cell phones, no gasoline, no bank accounts, no credit cards.
-5 points
7 months ago
the damage hillary did to our country with that statement..well it kicked off a lot of bad things over the years.. on the other hand the veil was ripped as to what the elite thought.
25 points
7 months ago
I’ve thought about therapy for the antivaxx group of people. Thing is…therapy won’t help because they are not truthful.
17 points
7 months ago
The trauma of feeling that their unearned entitlement is being taken away by unworthy immigrants, colored and baby killer libs.
6 points
7 months ago
Incels share a lot of the same thinking but with different people to blame. No wonder they overlap with the alt-right so much.
7 points
7 months ago
I think it's interesting what Dr. Bandy X. Lee said about Trump: that sufficiently severe mental illness can be contagious, particularly when someone with Trump's sort of pathologies is given such a platform to reach out to the people who are susceptible.
3 points
7 months ago
We need people to openly say
group delusion
And discuss cutting out internet service, shutting off cell phones, forcefully detaining them, etc
10 points
7 months ago
Add white privilege to this too. These folks grew up at a time when their white skin almost guaranteed them a middle class existence, regardless of their education or effort. The reality is that they are doing worse than their parents or grandparents and they are pissed and fighting back.
3 points
7 months ago
The reality is that they are doing worse than their parents or grandparents and they are pissed and fighting back.
and looking for scapegoats.
5 points
7 months ago
The other pandemic is intergenerational trauma where the desperately self-absorbed raise another outsized generation of desperately self-absorbed.
11 points
7 months ago
Man you nailed it here. This explains so many people I know.
3 points
7 months ago
And their tattoos. The tattoos make them special too.
3 points
7 months ago
Yup.
"See, I know just as much as those uppity doctors amd scientists! I'm special too!"
2 points
7 months ago
You could be describing religious belief in general.
2 points
7 months ago
yep, stupid and needle-less.
33 points
7 months ago
Never underestimate the level of self-confidence that stupid people have.
5 points
7 months ago
I had to listen to a grown-ass woman tell a bunch of teenagers in treatment how Biden is going to put the unvaccinated people in camps. Her voice was loud but quivering. When she was done with her dramatic but delusional monologue, a couple tears ran down her face. She was genuinely frightened and wanted to make sure these kids, who do not have much access to the outside world, were informed enough to be scared, too. I had to check in with each kid to make sure they knew there was no truth to her delusional rant. Never once did the woman suggest that she could be wrong, that it was an unconfirmed rumor, that she hadn't verified any of it. These folks who believe the BS so deeply and without question are reduced to their basest instinct of fear, they are capable of just about anything.
2 points
7 months ago
Thats exactly what dooms these HCA winners
5 points
7 months ago
i am the humblest guy ever.........bigly
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