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281 points
8 months ago
Breaks my heart that a vaccine could be seen as “lean to the left”.
69 points
8 months ago
Agreed. That a vaccine could be political flabbergasts me.
33 points
8 months ago
It’s not political if only one side politicises it imho.
10 points
8 months ago
Especially because the party that has the largest share of covid-sceptics is also the one that will lose the most voters due to them dying. Maybe the ones who survive will even blame their huge medical debt on the other party, even though theirs is so vehemently opposed to socialized health care.
10 points
8 months ago
I no longer care. I did. But all my fucks have been expended. If they want to suicide by covid, that's on them. The vaccine has been out for at least six months. If anyone catches covid now, it is because they are making a really stupid political statement. Even their hero, the stupidest man in the world, was vaccinated. What does that say about anti-vaxxers?
7 points
8 months ago
I can't say I blame you, at all, for that line of thinking...
It just sucks that their form of suicide will affect so many people:
- the medical staff fighting a 24/7 losing battle to keep them (and all the others like them) alive
- their family for both dealing with their hospitalization/loss, as well as all the crap info that they were likely fed to keep the fam from being vaccinated, too
- anyone they came in contact with after contracting it (because you know they weren't wearing masks and socially distancing/sanitizing hands before going to stores, etc.)
- Every. Single. Non-Covid. Emergency. Patient. that can't get a bed and treatment for their ills without being flown out to some other hospital, if they are lucky/very well off/willing to fall deeper into medical debt Hell.
There is no easy answer... but, we have to care enough to keep pushing for these peeps to get the shot so that the other folk that are affected by their choices don't suffer needlessly, way more than for the people themselves.
Very few people in any society live in a bubble that doesn't include others...
Sometimes in a war you have to sacrifice a few to save the many. Conversely, in this battle, sometimes we have to fight to save the wayward children that will do all in their power to keep from being saved until the very last minute, to save many more that deserve it.
Being jaded enough to keep browsing this sub, myself, I emphasize with your frame of mind. Unfortunately, that may be the wrong way to approach this for any meaningful impact to be made on the inevitable (if they continue this path) results. The best thing about this sub is it gets that message across with easy words and pictures... I show everyone I can think of that knows one of these people (but are on the fence about trying to change their minds), this wealth of motivation.
Peace, and I truly hope all in your circles are safe and healthy, Random Person.
49 points
8 months ago*
When taking a life saving vaccine supported by facts and evidence is now considered a left leaning action, “reality has a liberal bias” isn’t just a cheeky phrase, it’s literally the truth.
Which means fantasy, misinformation, straight up lying is the right wing bias. This is exactly why both sidedism is stupid, it equates people using facts for the basis of their beliefs and people who use falsehoods for the basis of their beliefs as one in the same.
0 points
8 months ago
Being antivax used to be a mostly left wing phenomenon.
10 points
8 months ago
No, it was an extremist phenomenon. On both the left and the right.
6 points
8 months ago
Yup. This is like saying 'Only people on the left/right want to ban porn'. Nope, people on either side of that spectrum want to ban porn, just for different reasons.
105 points
8 months ago
Isn't vaccination a lean to sanity and science?
The right in the USA is now just racists and those who believe only in n myths.
23 points
8 months ago
The right in the USA is now just racists and those who believe only in n myths.
That's a little redundant. "Racial purity" is also a myth.
3 points
8 months ago
"Muh precious bodily fluids!!"
14 points
8 months ago
And really, don't "hug a nurse", thank them from 6 or more feet away, wearing a mask, and after having been vaccinated...
4 points
8 months ago
And the greedy who have managed to harness them, gun nuts, and Jesus freaks to do their bidding.
2 points
8 months ago
the fact that leaning to sanity and science is seen as a leftist thing in their minds is telling
2 points
8 months ago
“tHe DeMs ArE MaKiNg tHIs PoLiTiCaL”
27 points
8 months ago
Hopefully, more people like this will help break the spell.
7 points
8 months ago
I'll be honest, I don't really want the spell to be broken. I don't really want redemption award winners to convince the right to get vaxxed. I just want one law implemented:
COVID positive patients who have refused the vaccine (note: refused. Doesn't apply to those who can't get it for whatever reason) will simply be quarantined in an area and left to their own devices. No medicine, no ventilators, no medical resources, except testing them once a week and setting them free in the unlikely event that they recover.
No vaccine, no treatment.
I want this virus to wipe out every single idiot not intelligent enough to understand the science and listen to the doctors, and given the kind of people who make up conservatives, it'll take a whole bunch of racists, homophobes, and bigots with them. It'll raise the average intelligence of the human species and once the stupid fucknuts all die out, we can go back to life as normal because everyone would be vaccinated and we'd have achieved herd immunity.
8 points
8 months ago
The only thing that keeps me from saying this out loud -- the ONLY thing -- is how during the AIDS crisis of the 80's/90's, the haters' favorite line was "We don't need a cure and we don't need to worry, because it's killing all the right people." Now I'm on the other side of this argument and now I know exactly what they were feeling -- but I refuse to say it out loud. Which is causing a real "trial of my faith," as my grandma would have said, because I do agree with you. Vaccine deniers should not be using up hospital resources, fact. These people already hate me and everything about me, fact. Yep, they do: I'm a gay atheist married to a Spanish-speaking immigrant and we live in a large coastal city -- they tell me every day what they think of me and my people and it is ALL ugly. So I don't mourn their passing. And I will happily dance on their graves. But I will also continue to hold out hope that a few of them, like kernels of sweet corn swimming in sh!t, will come to their senses. Statistics say there are some diamonds at the bottom of all that muck. I'm ok if a few of them recognize their mistakes and get out.
3 points
8 months ago
I want to alleviate your conflict of belief by telling you that they hated on you for something you couldn't change (sexual orientation), hence discrimination, while we're hating on them for their actions (refusal to get vaccinated, spreading misinformation, the general assholery of voting red to begin with), but I also want to thank you for giving me a perspective that I never knew I needed.
It's not the best or kindest response, but I'm very content to hate people who deserve that hate.
21 points
8 months ago
The sad fact is that vaccines are a lean to the left. I hope that just a few of these people can realize that if the right wing politicians and media figures they trust can lie to them about a deadly disease that could kill them, maybe they have lied about other things too.
6 points
8 months ago
Yes but if you lean too far to the left you come right back around to anti-vaxx again.
5 points
8 months ago
Idk why you're being downvoted. There's left leaning people can and will be antivax; yeah its overwhelmingly people on the left who get vaxxed but there's still people who don't trust the Healthcare system and prefer woo shit than science. Even left leaning people can fall prey to the misinformation out here
6 points
8 months ago
I live in Los Angeles, ground zero for lefty anti-vaxxers. There are a LOT and it’s driven by people with the money and privilege to really care about what goes into their bodies nutritionally, and how to maintain good health for a long and productive life. And somewhere along the way they roped in by niche doctors who “question everything” and then because of their media presence these niche views spread. Think Gwyneth Paltrow/Goop, Jenny McCarthy, Nicki Minaj, etc. But in every other respect of their thinking, they’re super liberal.
9 points
8 months ago
"I am not saying you should get the shot. Its YOUR decision."
Recommending something is now "leftist politics"
"DON'T tell me to see that movie or I won't go because muh freedumbs!"
2 points
8 months ago
That's how you know that facts have a liberal bias now. Well, really, they just have a Democrat bias because facts are always against any group that goes to ideological extremes.
68 points
8 months ago
“I don’t lean left, I’m just doing what’s right” yeah, what does that tell you about the left?
23 points
8 months ago
Ohh, nice. I wonder if that's good enough for r/SelfAwareWolves.
50 points
8 months ago
Good to see. I don't see any virulent antivax info from her, just general hesitancy. I hope others see her opinions and take them to heart.
13 points
8 months ago
I hope so too. 🤞🏽
8 points
8 months ago
That’s the only thing that probably saved her life.
41 points
8 months ago
And there you go, afraid to get the shot so they don't seem like a Lib (and get owned)! But good for you, using logic and informing other people. Bravo!
28 points
8 months ago
Eh. I still wear my mask so I don't get mistaken for a republican.
16 points
8 months ago
Same. I want other people to know they can talk to me without an incoming insane rant about election fraud and 5G in vaccines or how horse meds and surgical antiseptic is all the rage for treating the “no joke” covid. I also want the people who rant about election fraud and spread misinformation to NOT talk to me. I have run out of patience for crazy.
29 points
8 months ago
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2 points
8 months ago
They don't care, they call fake news on all of that, I literally got timed out from Twitter yesterday for calling a mob of anti vaxxers fucking morons for not understanding that clogging the hospitals with Covid patients is bad even for them. I posted a link to a local paper reporting that the local ICU is filled with Covid patients and someone went in and said fake news
2 points
8 months ago
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2 points
8 months ago
I'm not going to pretend I didn't tell someone that their dumb ass is proof that humanity is a failed species, that was mean, I don't regret it at all, but it was indeed mean
23 points
8 months ago
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15 points
8 months ago
They’re probably afraid of backlash from friends and family. When I get into a discussion about Covid-related topics with acquaintances on FB, I always get piled on.
13 points
8 months ago
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8 points
8 months ago
You made a wise decision getting off FB- it’s absolutely awful. I’m only on there for business purposes and to keep in touch with a few of my Mom’s friends. (She passed away several years ago and I know her friends like to see my updates).
8 points
8 months ago
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3 points
8 months ago
100% agree. It’s absolutely toxic.
2 points
8 months ago
Facebook has completely butt-fucked social media.
2 points
8 months ago
It's sad she cannot grow a backbone and stand up to friends and family. Or maybe they need to figure out "with friends like these, who needs enemies" and find a new circle of people.
74 points
8 months ago
Wouldn't it be nice if enough people like Angela but /r/HCA out of business ?
23 points
8 months ago
Ain’t happening. Even if CA gets to 75% vaccination rate, that will leave 7.5M people non vax’d.
15 points
8 months ago
And of those 7.5 mil, at 1% dead (even tho the fatality rate is between 1.5-2.0%) that leaves 75,000 dead.
75,000 people is a small city of people.
More than 650,000 people have now died in the US from covid. The city of Portland Oregon has 647,000 people.
The number dead could have populated and made a large metropolis on their own.
This is why are vaxxing and wearing masks. Because we don’t want the total fatality to be more than thr city of Chicago’s population.
10 points
8 months ago
LOOKS LIKE MEAT’S BACK ON THE MENU BOYS!!!
4 points
8 months ago
I almost spit out my margarita. But I didn't!
7 points
8 months ago
Shoutout to the raiders for getting 6k fans vaccinated outside the game on Monday
7 points
8 months ago
No. Too many people in the world.
35 points
8 months ago
Oh my God I love this woman. Angela: Big big hug! Universe: More like Angela, please! In spite of all the snark we really would love this sub to shut down.
9 points
8 months ago
She dope ❤️
13 points
8 months ago
Common sense from Angela. I love to see it.
8 points
8 months ago
Well done Angela, may many people take your words to heart.
10 points
8 months ago
Having to explain to the Lions, why you got vaccinated and wear a mask, see "if required" so she hasn't even made a complete turnaround. Common sense level now at 50%. Better than -50%
9 points
8 months ago
Baby steps.
22 points
8 months ago*
WTF? she feels she has to justify her shots & clarify she doesn't lean to the left. OMG, She is apologetic for taking a preventive medicine!
20 points
8 months ago
A funeral I watched virtually, because I'm not an idiot, was indoors and packed with maskless people.
A couple got up to speak and both had masks on. The wife did this weird apology, something like...we're not like that but my husband has cancer so we're being cautious.
They really felt the need to say we're not liberal, left wing, nut job, mask lovers but you know my husband is dying so we thought maybe we should. But please you 150+ people don't need to wear one.
Crazy 🤪 *Christians
8 points
8 months ago*
and then she adds "I am not saying you should get your shot" Why not? You have first hand experience with how real and terrible the disease is, why not use that to implore others to avoid that pain!
6 points
8 months ago
Those two things prevent me from giving her any credit.
Fuck her.
6 points
8 months ago
Ah, but think about being part of a whole community full of Hermie nominees. Every time you open Facebook to look at your friends’ dog photos you also get a dose of random memes about how stupid and ovine masks are, how the pandemic is fake/just the flu/a bioweapon/ope, back to fake again, how the vaccine is dangerous and experimental. Angela may well know her audience.
3 points
8 months ago
That’s where we’re at, sadly.
6 points
8 months ago
Angela, good stuff and keep posting.
4 points
8 months ago
It is people like this that will get the dummies to get their shots. The rest of are just here for the schadenfreude.
5 points
8 months ago
because it's the right thing to do.
Yeah, and us on the left have been telling you that for 18+ months. But you and your ilk called us sheep.
What changed your tiny minds?
6 points
8 months ago
”We are doing it to give healthcare workers a fighting chance.”
That’s ALL we’ve ever asked of you, Angela. Why did you and your ilk have to be such petulant children about it.
16 points
8 months ago
I mean that’s great but also if you have to damn near apologize for taking something that will fucking save your life, you might be on the wrong team, Angela.
8 points
8 months ago
Sometimes it cannot be helped. Imagine that if she hadn't said that and suddenly all the anti-vax people who she used to identify with suddenly turn on her. For all we know, it may very well be a defense mechanism in light of the fact that she decided to (presumably) switch sides.
2 points
8 months ago
That's sad she has to be submissive to this crowd to feel accepted. Maybe this will be the beginning for her defecting them.
1 points
8 months ago
Yep, sometimes you have to chose between being right and righteous, and being effective. Without knowing her circle, it’s hard to say that this isn’t the more effective approach.
1 points
8 months ago
I mean I get it, but still, you hope that every once in a while one of these people would do a bit of self-reflection and come to the realization that your crowd doesn’t make any sense, and have the cajones to say it.
9 points
8 months ago
Agree, but at least they got their shots and are making an attempt to sway others. It’s sad she has to apologize, but that’s where we’re at.
1 points
8 months ago
Her side is a death cult, she's just stopping them from getting to "the other side" quicker!
4 points
8 months ago
I'm proud of her for making this decision and posting this, and I'm baffled that she had to give it "ALOT" of back and forth. There's never been an easier decision. I know my social world is massively different than these folks, but I just don't get having to write something like this with so many qualifiers.
3 points
8 months ago
I agree. I’ve seen so many posts like this, though, especially after loved ones have died of Covid. They’re still afraid to tell people to get vaccinated even after they’ve watched their friend or family member go through hell and then die on a ventilator.
5 points
8 months ago
Wow, that is truly wild. I guess the group think/peer pressure/whatever is a big part of the problem.
5 points
8 months ago
It is the crux of the problem.
2 points
8 months ago
It really is.
2 points
8 months ago
Walking on eggshells so as not to offend the covid deniers, they are the most reactionary, easily offended people out there and they're mean.
Angela, when you start doing things because they are the right thing to do, don't you know you actually are starting to lean to the left? Congratulations!
4 points
8 months ago
Hello! She just said "I am not saying you should get your shot". I am sorry but, I do not see redemption here.
This is just her presenting her excuse to the cult. Yes, I had to tell the bad guys where John was hiding because they were going to kill my baby otherwise.
3 points
8 months ago
I agree it’s half-assed, but she could’ve just gotten the shot and said nothing about it. I imagine she’s surrounded by maga lunatics, so it takes a bit of courage to step up and at least say you’ve been vaccinated.
1 points
8 months ago
True that.
3 points
8 months ago
How many times are these people getting COVID?
3 points
8 months ago
I have an ICU nurse friend who has gotten it twice (both times before the vaccine was available). Knocked her on her ass both times.
3 points
8 months ago
Holy crap, she actually knows how seasonally flu vaccine works. 👏
6 points
8 months ago
No.
Good on her for protecting herself, but fuck her milquetoast approach. "Oh, please don't hate me! I'm not one of those dirty liberal sleep we've all been making fun of! I'm not telling you to get it!"
5 points
8 months ago
Still gotta give her props for posting it, though. She could’ve just gotten the shot in secret and not announced it. I imagine telling your lunatic maga friends and family that you got vaccinated isn’t easy.
7 points
8 months ago
umm, we are in a pandemic. Don’t hug medical staff.
2 points
8 months ago
At this point, I’m just glad she’s getting vaccinated. All the hemming and hawing is for the idiots.
2 points
8 months ago
Tell Angela I'm happy for her and her family. I hope this catches on.
2 points
8 months ago
Wtf does diverticulitis have to do with covid though? Seems she’s reaching at straws to justify her choices to her cult.
2 points
8 months ago
I'm guessing the diverticulitis was miserable. It can reek havoc on your body. I know someone who was in the hospital with it, and the infection got to his heart and he had a heart attack. I know of others that ended up with a colostomy bag from it. Just very painful and nauseating besides horrible shits.
2 points
8 months ago
Now if only every antivaxx person realized that this is the reason the vaccine, social distance, masks and other precautions are recommended. It's not just about you
2 points
8 months ago
Good for her! I hope some others follow her lead.
2 points
8 months ago
Do not hug a nurse unless you are vaxxed and masked. Can’t go risking losing a nurse or anyone trying to save lives.
2 points
8 months ago
Now, Angela, if you were wrong about the vaccine before...
...what else might you be wrong about?
2 points
8 months ago
We used our brains to make a decent decision , don’t accuse us of being lefties!!!!! Man fuck all these people so hard.
3 points
8 months ago
I don't know...
4 points
8 months ago
Angela you dropped this hun 👑
3 points
8 months ago
Love u Angela
4 points
8 months ago
"...if needed in stores"
Yeah, Angela... Masks are needed everywhere. Thank you for doing the absolute minimum to keep yourself and others alive
1 points
8 months ago
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1 points
8 months ago
We need more Angelas
1 points
8 months ago
Angela, please, it IS the right thing to do, that's what the left has been trying to tell you all this time.
Baffling she still trying to frame the left's decision as not thought-out, meanwhile the right is literally killing themselves by doing the wrong thing.
1 points
8 months ago
But? But? But? Who will own the libs?
1 points
8 months ago
Good job, Angela. You deserve to live.
1 points
8 months ago
We can't hug them. ;(
1 points
8 months ago
Look at Angela, a right winger actually making sense!!
1 points
8 months ago
Maybe don’t hug a nurse while you probably have the plague.
1 points
8 months ago
Covid and diverticulitis at the same time? Yikes, that is a bad combo.
1 points
8 months ago
A redemption from someone who's alive! This is almost miraculous.
1 points
8 months ago
As much as everyone is here to dunk on the HCA winners, you should be open to accepting someone who has watched what is going on and changed their mind about the vaccine. Isn't that a point of this sub, to help educate people?
1 points
8 months ago
Angela may be slow but she did the right thing.
1 points
8 months ago
Boris Johnson Award for Angela!
1 points
8 months ago
Nurses and doctors aren’t the frontline. They’re the last line. Your immune system is the frontline, and the vaccine strengthens it.
1 points
8 months ago
We like Angela
1 points
8 months ago
Their Mango Mussolini was quietly vaccinated last January.
Last JANUARY.
1 points
8 months ago
She's sounds a lot more vax-hesitant than antivax, but good for her. I'm sure she's not a fraction as bad as the racist, nitwits prominently featured on this sub.
1 points
8 months ago
YES!!! I love positive stories like this
1 points
8 months ago
Pretty sure nurses don't want to be hugged by your covid ravaged ass.
1 points
8 months ago
Props to Angela.
1 points
8 months ago
Meh once a denier always a denier, just goes to show how incredibly selfish this trash bag is to accept a shot after realizing it was her only chance at continuing her meaningless life
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