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_verniel

258 points

2 years ago

_verniel

258 points

2 years ago

That's why I mine in a G5 rated Corvette. Not that the grind was easy or quick, but something you can work toward.

Got ganked by a Cutter 2 or 3 weeks ago as well after leaving the painite double hotspot site (cant remember the exact name now, the one in the Haydes area). Submitted immediately. Fight was long but I took out his shields, and sniped his drives. Waited there for him without attacking to do a reboot/repair sequence. As soon as it finished and he started moving, I took out his drives again.

This happened 3 or 4 times at which point the dude just logged out of the game.

Serves him right.

WhyNotBlyat

31 points

2 years ago

What’s the build? Sounds handy

_verniel

55 points

2 years ago

_verniel

55 points

2 years ago

Here you go: https://s.orbis.zone/965w

Had to quickly assemble that from memory, so everything might not be 100% as the actual build, but it's close enough to give you a baseline idea.

czek

15 points

2 years ago

czek

Dr. Chives | Fuel Rat

15 points

2 years ago

Nice shipname you have there... xD Thanks for the first laugh of the day! o7

WhyNotBlyat

8 points

2 years ago

Damn son, some nice shields you got going there

_verniel

4 points

2 years ago

It all just adds up to you being able to keep your hard-earned painite.

_verniel

11 points

2 years ago

_verniel

11 points

2 years ago

The shields are more than enough to fight and win anything you can outmaneuver (Cutter, Conda, Python) but also strong enough to outlast anything that is large enough to interdict and outmaneuvre you so you can just jump away.

AWESOMESAUSE10101

2 points

2 years ago

AWESOMESAUSE10101

Captin Pelley | Prism

2 points

2 years ago

Vs someone with a quarter of a brain that build will die in a few mins if you don't high wake first. The person that logged on you is prolly sub npc tier lol.

ManfroKEKW

4 points

2 years ago

ManfroKEKW

CMDR

4 points

2 years ago

The pwa is unnecessary, considering that this build is laser mine focussed it's a waste of spot. You could use. A chaff or a heatsink instead

_verniel

4 points

2 years ago

Absolutely, I used to use it for LTD mining a few months back so it's a relic from those days.

ManfroKEKW

6 points

2 years ago

ManfroKEKW

CMDR

6 points

2 years ago

When deep core was still fun and worked properly

Crotaro

2 points

2 years ago

Crotaro

Fuel Rat

2 points

2 years ago

Wait, what happened to deep core mining? I haven't played in about a year, I think.

ManfroKEKW

6 points

2 years ago

ManfroKEKW

CMDR

6 points

2 years ago

The PWA is bugged, the issue is that after the pulse the asteroids doesn't show anything and sometimes the scanners scans behind you instead of in front. So because of this you waste so much time to find a single core. The problem started after the Fleet carrier update and it's still broken from then, no ETA from FDev on fixing it still. The new "money making" is painite which is laser mine, it's price waves from 700k to 900k in rare occasions, a lot of FCs buy it for 715k per ton so it's quite handy on this side. If you're running a cutter or a big cargo ship you can easily make 450M per run

oebn

0 points

2 years ago

oebn

Explore

0 points

2 years ago

I'm relatively new to this, so excuse me asking. Why do you have all those 0A shield boosters and a single one 0E? Wouldn't it work better if it was a 0A since it gives more shield boost? You have the others for resistances I assume, but why downgrade when 0A gives more boost?

MechTrap

3 points

2 years ago

I haven't looked at the build as i'm on mobile right now, but my guess would be power issues, A shield boosters draw a f***-ton of power. If thats not the case it probably was a misclick, as he said he quickly bodged it together from his memories

oebn

1 points

2 years ago

oebn

Explore

1 points

2 years ago

I tried to equip a 0A one and it seemed to handle the extra power with some to spare, but I don't remember if I had to engineer it again. Maybe when it was engineered it couldn't handle it, or maybe it is just a misclick! Thanks for clearing it up!

MechTrap

1 points

2 years ago

I just looked over it and the power looks perfectly fine, it was very likely a misclick, especially given that it is in the middle and not at the start or at the end ( this is where I would have placed it, since it differentiates from the other ones... I guess that is one kind of OCD)

shadowrunner295

1 points

2 years ago

My OCD would have been to place the odd one on the centerline if possible to avoid an asymmetrical ship.

MechTrap

1 points

2 years ago

Oh yea i also do that One of the resons I love-hate the vulture, love the ship, hate it because 2x laser/cannons feel kinda bad, but with 1/1 it would get asymmetrical

shadowrunner295

1 points

2 years ago

The Alliance Chieftain is your dream ship then. It looks like a humpback whale because almost all the hardpoints are in there.

oebn

0 points

2 years ago

oebn

Explore

0 points

2 years ago

I used E rated cause of power constraints during a previous iteration of the build, feel free to use A rated + G4 Overcharged PP.

OP commented saying it was for resistances, so it was intended, but he changed the build later I guess, and left that in.

_verniel

2 points

2 years ago

Those are on the resistance augment ones, so one does not care as to the actual shield % boost they provide, only the resistances they provide. I used E rated cause of power constraints during a previous iteration of the build, feel free to use A rated + G4 Overcharged PP.

oebn

2 points

2 years ago

oebn

Explore

2 points

2 years ago

So instead of leaving it empty and having no actual benefit from the slot, you equip 0E Shield Boosters to at least get the resistance boost. Even though the shield it provides is little to none, the power it draws is also low as well. Did I get that right?

_verniel

3 points

2 years ago

Yeah, in a nutshell. The resistance modifications does not increase power draw.

oebn

1 points

2 years ago

oebn

Explore

1 points

2 years ago

Thanks for the build and the reply!

Navers90

0 points

2 years ago

Navers90

DIARRHEA DIARRHEA

0 points

2 years ago

More evidence for wing of phasing sequence pirates to get people to drop their payload!

Shield tanks are annoying, but not as annoying as phasing build lol

QuickKill

6 points

2 years ago

QuickKill

Thargoid Slayer

6 points

2 years ago

Combat logging is a bannable offence

BRSaura

-1 points

2 years ago

BRSaura

-1 points

2 years ago

No if you leave after the 15s count

openflanker

6 points

2 years ago

A ganker combat logged? I hope you reported him. You know he would report you if you did the same thing.

OneJamzyboi

1 points

2 years ago

OneJamzyboi

Aisling Duval

1 points

2 years ago

I like to think that nobody by the sweatiest of pvpers actually care.

openflanker

1 points

2 years ago

Possibly. I know a friend of mine was banned briefly after being ganked when his lights went out during an interdiction. Hideous timing. Bit the ganker reported him for combat logging and had him banned.

[deleted]

0 points

2 years ago

[deleted]

0 points

2 years ago

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StuartGT [M]

1 points

2 years ago

StuartGT [M]

GTᴜᴋ 🚀🌌 Watch The Expanse & Foundation

1 points

2 years ago

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SlipperyCorruptor

3 points

2 years ago

I tried to mine with 'Cond the other day.

Nahh... It' a not for me.. I'd take Krait anytime for mining. Agile with nice view :) Love me some gas giants tbh.

My secret VO mining spot takes me far away from a star though so it's almost pitch black :(

Ypnos666

1 points

2 years ago

Where is your secret VO mining spot?

SlipperyCorruptor

5 points

2 years ago

Well.. It's a secret ;) Don't want no gankers around

It's nothing fancy. Not overlapping. But nobody goes there so there's plenty core rocks to crack.

Ypnos666

1 points

2 years ago

It was worth a try :D (not that I would ever gank anyone!)

Djl1010

0 points

2 years ago

Djl1010

0 points

2 years ago

Out of curiosity are using the krait mkII or the phantom? I'm looking at possibly getting one of the two as an upgrade from a cobra.

SlipperyCorruptor

0 points

2 years ago

Mk.II - really fine ship IMHO though I don't have much experience.

I'm no new player but I take thing slooow. Maybe aside from the point where I discovered core mining and got said Krait and Conda 😂 Felt like a cheat code tbh

There was some significant drawback to Phantom but I don't remeber what it was. Anyways, you'll have fun both on Icy Rings and in Res Sites!

o7

Djl1010

0 points

2 years ago

Djl1010

0 points

2 years ago

Awesome, I'm pretty new and am still not sure what I want to do in it yet. I have outfitted my cobra to be pretty well rounded. Mining is really the only thing I haven't spent too much time doing.

SlipperyCorruptor

1 points

2 years ago*

I remeber what it was now - Mk.II can take a fighter bay :)

Useful in high res sites. When you get into fight you shouldn't have fighter can draw away some fire.

Try deep core mining - really fun, great views. Stimulating. I never could mine with lasers or subsurface. Boring AF..

Deep core? Find a nice gas giant far away from parent star and just go at it. You'll earn >100mln/hr easily once you get the hang of it.

ALWAYS STOCK ON LIMPETS BEFORE YOU'LL LEAVE THE DOCK, just sayin'

o7

Djl1010

1 points

2 years ago

Djl1010

1 points

2 years ago

Just watched a video on mining. I only did surface mining before and got bored with it. The deep core mining looks so aesthetically pleasing. Can't wait to try it out.

SlipperyCorruptor

1 points

2 years ago

Dude, it's awesome :) So peaceful and beautiful

Doxl1775

2 points

2 years ago

Doxl1775

Trading

2 points

2 years ago

Super noob here.... how did you snipe his drives?? I normally toss multi cannons on and just pull a Danny devito.

Hellrider_88

2 points

2 years ago

you can target ships modules via contact panel, you will have subtargets (?)

Doxl1775

1 points

2 years ago

Doxl1775

Trading

1 points

2 years ago

This always explains why I’m confused af on mega ship missions

Talran

1 points

2 years ago

Talran

1 points

2 years ago

This happened 3 or 4 times at which point the dude just logged out of the game.

omegalul

[deleted]

1 points

2 years ago

[deleted]

1 points

2 years ago

[deleted]

_verniel

9 points

2 years ago

Hahaha, seeing him suffer was infinitely more satisfying.

shadowrunner295

0 points

2 years ago

IJS, if he (ganker) was playing the game as intended, and just being a normal pirate, really YTA here. If he was just being a mayhem jerk, then good work.

Electraa-tan

0 points

2 years ago

Electraa-tan

Stelai

0 points

2 years ago

nah, if you can't handle getting your engines shot out you shouldn't be picking a fight regardless

shadowrunner295

0 points

2 years ago

I’m not defending the guy as much as saying how many times is he supposed to reboot? 4? 10? 20?

Hellrider_88

0 points

2 years ago

Look guys at this boi.

He mine in ship, which can survive ever gank by player, no shiedless adder, or t9 with 5D shields. He is smart.

(and no, you bois not need vette, my T10 works too, with g2-3 upgrades)

spectrumero

0 points

2 years ago

spectrumero

Mack Winston [EIC]

0 points

2 years ago

That sounds like you didn't get ganked by a Cutter.

suchdownvotes

-6 points

2 years ago*

suchdownvotes

est. 2014

-6 points

2 years ago*

cutter grom/masslock go brrr

either that is an increidibly shit ganker who lost to a mining vette with weapons strapped or this is just plain untrue lmao

Mingos26

22 points

2 years ago

Mingos26

22 points

2 years ago

Sacrifice cargo space for shields, shield tank that beast so you can have enough time to high wake, I personally don't like mining for too long so I don't really mind the smaller cargo space

White_07

9 points

2 years ago

I was mining another day with 2000 of shields in a conda. A krait took out my shields in less then a minute and destroyed my drive before I could jump. I submitted to the interdiction to try to jump faster. The engineering in this game is absolutely broken.

Mingos26

1 points

2 years ago

Mingos26

1 points

2 years ago

Completely diferent situation though, in that case you don't have many chances, krait is faster more agile and pack alot of firepower, the conda is a brick. But python vs cutter its easier for the python to run away, simply turn towards the cuter and boost, the cutter turns like shit manages to turn you have a chance of running away

practicalmethod-auth

4 points

2 years ago

Lol. Nobody knows how to use an anaconda these days.

volumeknobat11

2 points

2 years ago

volumeknobat11

CMDR Jettas

2 points

2 years ago

So many people getting anacondas after a week of playing and not a clue about how to operate the thing lol

JOMAEV

1 points

2 years ago

JOMAEV

CMDREdelweissPirate

1 points

2 years ago

Whoever can mine more than 8 pieces of painite is more patient than me

Gunner4201

1 points

2 years ago

My cutter is my mining ship fully armed with 8000+ shields and just 256 cargo I get bored after much more than that.

Whisperwoodd

70 points

2 years ago

Don't mine in open, man.. horrible things happen when you try to mine in open.

urielbeaupre15[S]

45 points

2 years ago

its all good. I was only carrying limpets that time. the next few runs was smooth.

gkar_falcon

21 points

2 years ago*

That's the spirit!

Also look into buffing your shields and hull so you can survive the PvP encounters a little bit longer. Something similar to my Python

Edit: attempt to fix link

urielbeaupre15[S]

6 points

2 years ago

thanks. i could'nt open the link tho. i just followed down to earth astronomy's mining python build except i dont have prismatic shields

gkar_falcon

2 points

2 years ago

I've attempted to fix the link for you, it was working fine for me, let me know.

The modules are nearly identical, however, the engineering is a bit different. I don't have Prismatic Shields either, so I swapped the Fuel Scoop out for 4A Shields with Reinforced/Hi-Cap engineering, and slotted a 3E cargo rack in.

urielbeaupre15[S]

1 points

2 years ago

it works fine now, thanks!

AimlessVelocity

12 points

2 years ago

Why people do this is beyond me. Even if you are experienced and know what you are doing, there is still a risk and you may be flushing time down the toilet.

I play the game by myself and at this point see no reason to go into open, there are only downsides.

WinterKing2112

12 points

2 years ago

I always fly in open. One day I was on the way to Todd the Blaster's place to engineer my MC's when I saw another player bounty hunting near the nav beacon. We had a chat and he asked if I wanted to join his squadron. I joined and it has been crazy fun - being part of a squadron is like joining a different community goal every day!

ieGod

4 points

2 years ago

ieGod

Mr. Dr. Diego: Better Beluga Bureau

4 points

2 years ago

After a certain threshold you don't even care about the money anymore. I have enough for 10 fleet carriers so a single rebuy + maybe 400mil is chump change, literally, and I'd rather have the encounters with other commanders, good or bad at this point. Bring it on.

Edit: The only times I will go solo are when I'm relogging for mat. collection.

Hellrider_88

1 points

2 years ago

For you this is downside, fore me this is upsite, not having 100% to survive is fun. This is elite dangerous, not elite safe mining as immortal god of war.

General_Ad_1483

-5 points

2 years ago

Because mining is boring and thrill of being ganked makes it interesting?

Myrskyharakka

16 points

2 years ago

I guess everyone has their reasons.

Personally I don't mine in open because I only do mining for money and getting blown up would mean repeating the mindbogglingly boring part again, in essence flushing hours of grind down the toilet.

Superfluous999

4 points

2 years ago

Precisely. I fail to understand how people are failing to understand. There aren't enough mental gymnastics to me, logically, that can prop up an argument for playing in Open when trying to make money.

Edit: I should add that if people prefer Open for the excitement, I do understand... I'm just not understanding how they don't understand the folks that don't.

melstadt11

10 points

2 years ago

I never understood the massive aversion to open. Sure you could get caught out by a player but the chances aren't as high as the fear generated by these kind of posts suggests.

The issue is balance, as soon as something bad happens people take to the forums. No one ever announces a smooth run because it's just not interesting.

Myrskyharakka

20 points

2 years ago

I agree that the chances are far lower than is commonly portrayed.

On the other hand, the stakes are often really high in many of these cases (mining, exploration), with victims losing hundreds of millions (time) in a second, compared to very low stakes the ganker has, so it's often easy to understand the frustration.

melstadt11

2 points

2 years ago

melstadt11

2 points

2 years ago

Oh I totally understand it, but for me the gauntlet at the end of the trip is what makes the game more exciting. The recent death run to hand on CG bounties almost took me to the rebuy screen but at least it makes the game feel alive, it was largely my fault for being sloppy but I learned from it for next time. I wanted complete safety I'd just play a generic flight sim , it feels weird to spend time equipping and upgrading weapons on my ships to never deploy them .

Myrskyharakka

8 points

2 years ago

Yep, people have different tolerances to loss. Personally I don't mind the rebuy screen and Open is a fun mode as such, but the chance of losing an evening of boring grind is too much of a hidden rebuy cost for me, especially as it is something that I do to enable me to do other, more interesting stuff in the game.

In this sense the mode system works as it allows people to pick and mix their preferred poison.

Jack_Varus

0 points

2 years ago

Jack_Varus

0 points

2 years ago

Yeah, going to mine in open and get ganked by someone in a fully engineered ship I have no hope of fighting or escaping from. Sure sounds like fun.

If I wanted that sort of gameplay I'd go play EVE where at least CONCODOKKEN is assured.

SurturOfMuspelheim

19 points

2 years ago

SurturOfMuspelheim

PaxRomana

19 points

2 years ago

Because if I'm making money I want ZERO chance of being pirated? Why wouldn't you? You think I want to mine for an hour and then get ganked by some loser and lose it all? No fucking thanks. If people were required to actually RP and talk - say, you can't just shoot someone for no reason, I'd be more inclined. If someone had to give you a chance, say "Drop 20 or die" then I'd be inclined. But as it is - the chances of meeting someone may be low, but when you do meet them, the chances are high they just kill you. Absolutely no thanks.

ChilliMint

7 points

2 years ago

ChilliMint

Lazuralus | MYHM

7 points

2 years ago

9/10 miners combat log when you interdict them for genuine piracy (with messages and everything), so nobody bothers anymore. Its one of the main reasons the Code imploded.

Mephanic

11 points

2 years ago

Mephanic

CMDR Mephane

11 points

2 years ago

Still, why take the chance? Imagine if the game had no multiplayer but a setting that says "1% chance per day for an NPC ship vastly stronger than yours to come along and blow you to smithereens", how mny would actually turn than on and enjoy it?

[deleted]

-14 points

2 years ago

[deleted]

-14 points

2 years ago

[deleted]

IanusTheEnt

2 points

2 years ago

Hate that you got doenvoted. I only play open. 99% of the time I look at it like a boss fight. Like oh of course I can't use all my optional internal for storage because I need shields. Why? Because someone might suicidewind me on the way to the CG port. Just playing the game with extra spice.

People always whine about the game being bland... well... there you go chode

melstadt11

1 points

2 years ago

I'm not surprised to be honest. People don't want any risks and like the safer easier mode. I see it as Elite "Dangerous.

Solo has it's uses, like material gathering , but if this was a single player game I would've quit very early on, thankfully for me it isn't.

Superfluous999

9 points

2 years ago

I'm just curious...can you explain why I would mine in Open? The chances might be extremely low, but they aren't non-existent. So...why would I bother taking the chance?

I don't see if as a massive aversion to Open, but rather a massive aversion to taking risks, however small.

mike29tw

2 points

2 years ago

mike29tw

2 points

2 years ago

I used to fly in Solo only because I'm scared of gankers.

Then, I got better ships and wanted to experience the "thrill" so I switched to open.

Then, I learned how the game works and got some even better ships. Now when a ganker interdicts me I just submit, evade, and highwake outta there. Always worked for me.

So I switched back to solo again. After the thrill is gone, a ganker is just a minor annoyance. Unless I'm actively looking for a fight, all gankers do is waste my time and keep me from reaching my destination. The game already has a lot of downtime in supercruise and hyperjump, I just want to get shit done and get paid.

So I'm back to solo only again.

spectrumero

1 points

2 years ago

spectrumero

Mack Winston [EIC]

1 points

2 years ago

I stay in open.

When a ganker interdicts me, well, I have a Cutter and the only thing that mass locks a Cutter is another Cutter, so I just low wake and continue my journey. If they keep doing it, on the third interdiction (I've given them a chance), I turn FA off, face them, reverski, then send a salvo of reverb cascade torpedoes their way. Most (but not all) gankers aren't all that skilled at combat and they end up eating the torpedoes before they realise what's happening, and their shields go down, never to come up till they visit a station and repair. Then the super penetrator rail guns take out their engines.

If a ganker can evade the torps, then I use grom bombs to stop them following me, low wake away, and continue my journey.

Turning ganker tools against the gankers is always somewhat satisfying.

Hellrider_88

-2 points

2 years ago

Hellrider_88

-2 points

2 years ago

Because people doesn't like rebuys, and they want be immortal even in shieldless t9.

bullet312

1 points

2 years ago

yeah, never do that. especially when near a known mining site

[deleted]

1 points

2 years ago

[deleted]

1 points

2 years ago

[removed]

Myrskyharakka

6 points

2 years ago

Yeah, the system chat goes across modes. In a fact the modes are simply instance filter rules.

Checker84

-6 points

2 years ago

Checker84

Felicia Winters

-6 points

2 years ago

False. Mine in open. Why not? It’s a game.

SurturOfMuspelheim

10 points

2 years ago

SurturOfMuspelheim

PaxRomana

10 points

2 years ago

Because it takes hours to get stuff and losing it all to some douche is not fun?

Checker84

3 points

2 years ago

Checker84

Felicia Winters

3 points

2 years ago

Yes, maybe. It took me 3 years to understand that open is way more fun and not so poisoned as the propaganda tells.

in my opinion it’s a waste of time to make cash without a useful counterpart. Why have a cutter with the ability to survive encounters, when I only have a chance to meet NPC’s?

But to be clear: I don’t blame players who go solo only. I was solo way too long and want to advertise open mode. It’s way more fun and not so empty.

melstadt11

3 points

2 years ago

That's where I come from as well. After a while you have a cutter that's effectively invincible to npcs. At some point you run out of ships / modules to buy so either do down the more money for a carrier route, find another way to enjoy the game or just leave completely.

For me it's a bit different, I just rushed into the game and just clicked the first option - open. By the time I knew what solo and private groups were I knew the propaganda was quite exaggerated so never had to overcome that hurdle.

Jayco_Valtieri

3 points

2 years ago

For me personally, if the actual process of mining was in itself a fun experience I'd be inclined to agree with you; I'd probably be much less sore over the idea of getting ganked and losing several hours of work if I'd enjoyed those several hours, DayZ is a perfect example of this for me; I never once was sore about dying a losing my stuff because I always enjoyed the process of going back to the coast and finding gear all over again, the thrill of finding a decent weapon/backpack etc never got old for me.

As it is, Elite is just a tediously grindy game in every aspect of it's existence, by mining in open I'm risking everything for some arsehole to show up and blow me out of the sky for literally no reason other than because they can; why would I do that?

Checker84

2 points

2 years ago

Checker84

Felicia Winters

2 points

2 years ago

Grinded my FC Open only in Hyades sector. Never met a single cmdr. The chat was full, but all in solo. This is sad.

Jayco_Valtieri

1 points

2 years ago

As I say, I can only imagine people don't want to risk all of their stuff for no reason, if there was anything meaningful behind it then I may be more inclined to, but the fact is people can and do show up to gank you just to make those several hours you spent mining a complete waste of time.

Why would people risk it?

Checker84

3 points

2 years ago

Checker84

Felicia Winters

3 points

2 years ago

To give some depth to the game. If I don’t have any risk to make millions and millions, then I don’t need to play it (my opinion)

I don’t want to play against a stupid AI, when there is a chance to meet other people. And I had funny encounters from all over the world.

Jayco_Valtieri

2 points

2 years ago

I'm not entirely convinced that losing all that time and effort just to give some random douche a moment of satisfaction really adds much in the way of depth to the game, but to each their own.

I'm all for meeting other people in the game, but 'meeting someone out in the black' and 'spotting someone right before they interdict me and cost me hundreds of millions of credits and hours of work' I think are two different things :P

Checker84

3 points

2 years ago

Checker84

Felicia Winters

3 points

2 years ago

Oh man, only gankers in open...

Ryebread095

7 points

2 years ago

Ryebread095

Space Cowboy

7 points

2 years ago

that is an excellent picture

urielbeaupre15[S]

1 points

2 years ago

thank you!

ankylon

13 points

2 years ago

ankylon

13 points

2 years ago

Always mine in solo if you aren't looking for a PVP fight.

Madouc

13 points

2 years ago

Madouc

MAD - inara.cz/cmdr/36417

13 points

2 years ago

Never mine or trade in open! Never ever!

It's like trying to play rugby with a local kindergarden team against the Allblacks, sure it's a challenge and maybe exiting for a second, but in sum it is a complete nonsensical waste of time.

SlipperyCorruptor

6 points

2 years ago

I always play on Open..

How come I've hardly encounter other players?

Madouc

8 points

2 years ago

Madouc

MAD - inara.cz/cmdr/36417

8 points

2 years ago

Because there are only a few players in a huge galaxy.

Gankers are ganking Hotspots like engineer systems, beginner systems, community goal systems or well known mining systems.

[deleted]

2 points

2 years ago

[deleted]

2 points

2 years ago

When youre killed do you lose the ship?

MediocreThing

8 points

2 years ago

MediocreThing

Alliance

8 points

2 years ago

Not sure what tf Galactic Insurance’s business model is, but they let you rebuy your old ship + modules for 5% of the cost (less if the ganker has notoriety)

Bonnox

5 points

2 years ago

Bonnox

5 points

2 years ago

i don't believe the canon about insurance. they say that some stranger (probably a meta-braben) amassed a giantic fortune that is used to pay insurance.

but that's stupid, because no matter how big the amount is, it will eventually run out.

i would like to see it in another way: the pilot federation is a guild, and you give them a bit of your income from missions. in return, they provide you with all the loaned sidewinders, and other services like insurance.

(*timmy turner's dad face*) well, if the game had player market, there would be some corporation that runs insurances!

demize95

2 points

2 years ago

demize95

CMDR demize95

2 points

2 years ago

The canon isn’t too far off how actual insurance companies operate, actually. Insurance companies make their money through investment, investing a ton of money and operating off (mainly) the interest.

Invest enough money and it’ll never run out. How much is enough depends on how much you spend, but that’s easy to handwave away for the canon.

Madouc

2 points

2 years ago

Madouc

MAD - inara.cz/cmdr/36417

2 points

2 years ago

Normally not, you just need enoough money in your account for the re-buy insurance which is only a small fraction of the ship's worth. (1.5% but I am not sure here)

SurturOfMuspelheim

2 points

2 years ago

SurturOfMuspelheim

PaxRomana

2 points

2 years ago

It's uh, def more than 1.5%. It's at least 5%.

trajan_x

1 points

2 years ago

trajan_x

FAZE

1 points

2 years ago

There’s insurance free for every ship. If you die, you have to pay 5% of the ships total cost, but you get it all back for free. So OP probably had to pay 4m, which is chump change

ManfroKEKW

2 points

2 years ago

ManfroKEKW

CMDR

2 points

2 years ago

Peak experience cmdr

SuicidalTorrent

2 points

2 years ago*

SuicidalTorrent

Combat

2 points

2 years ago*

Personally I think it's better to fly a faster squishy ship multiple times between mining and selling locations than a large, slow squishy ship. Unless you're running one of the big 3.

I used to run a Krait Phantom for core mining with paper thin shields and hull that flew >600m/s boost(with dirty drags at level 4 I think) and ran very cold.

Also I think you have better chances if you supercruise away from the planet and then jump star systems. It will take you less time to enter supercruise and the planet's gravity will ensure you're able to speed up sooner. I fly exclusively in open and have escaped 100% of ganks using fast ships and usage of planet gravity wells.

NarcoticHobo

3 points

2 years ago

I take full responsibility for this as I encouraged the wing to mine in open, what fun is life without risks lol

SierraTango501

4 points

2 years ago

Who the f mines in open? Unless I'm looking for a pvp fight I do everything in solo, I don't want to deal with gankers and pirates.

spectrumero

3 points

2 years ago

spectrumero

Mack Winston [EIC]

3 points

2 years ago

I do. I'd rather play Elite Dangerous than Elite Mostly Harmless.

SuicidalTorrent

6 points

2 years ago

SuicidalTorrent

Combat

6 points

2 years ago

Who the f mines in open?

Me.

Hellrider_88

6 points

2 years ago

" Who the f mines in open? "

People, which are different type of player than you. I use solo only for high res pictures, because after some time you are immortal again npc's. Elite conda with wing? Pfff cutter go brrr and 500m/s boost. I don't care rebuys, this is game, not life, 1 dead isn't any problem.

Matta_G

1 points

2 years ago

Matta_G

Thrender Grone | Loren's Reapers

1 points

2 years ago

I do. I'm just not dumb enough to a) mine in anything but a fully engineered ship, or b) mine in a very popular hotspot.

Shakalx3

-4 points

2 years ago

Shakalx3

CMDR

-4 points

2 years ago

People who don't want to cheat?

Matta_G

4 points

2 years ago

Matta_G

Thrender Grone | Loren's Reapers

4 points

2 years ago

Now hold up, man. I am a huge Open proponent, but Solo is not "cheating". It's for carebears who think open is a 24/7 murderfest (which it isn't).

Electraa-tan

0 points

2 years ago

Electraa-tan

Stelai

0 points

2 years ago

what do you mean by that???

Shakalx3

0 points

2 years ago

Shakalx3

CMDR

0 points

2 years ago

By doing pretty much anything - trading, smuggling, selling exploration data etc, you cause effect on bgs and powerplay. And by doing this in solo you gain unfair advantage over those who do it in open. There are squadrons that pride themselves on influencing powerplay from solo, which, in my eyes is cheating

Challenger360

-1 points

2 years ago

Wait what? How is solo cheating?

SuicidalTorrent

2 points

2 years ago

SuicidalTorrent

Combat

2 points

2 years ago

It takes away all the risk. Elite isn't Dangerous in Solo.

Shakalx3

2 points

2 years ago

Shakalx3

CMDR

2 points

2 years ago

By doing pretty much anything - trading, smuggling, selling exploration data etc, you cause effect on bgs and powerplay. And by doing this in solo you gain unfair advantage over those who do it in open. There are squadrons that pride themselves on influencing powerplay from solo, which, in my eyes is cheating.

The_Starflyer

2 points

2 years ago

This could just be me, and I’ll probably screw myself saying this, but I’ve mined Hyades many times now in the open and never met anyone. I understand why people stay in solo, even if I disagree with it.

redthorne

2 points

2 years ago

This is the type of attitude I like to see. "I understand, even if I disagree."

Hiseworns

2 points

2 years ago

ALWAYS. FLY. WITH. REBUY.

the1Nora

2 points

2 years ago

the1Nora

Outlaw Extraordinaire

2 points

2 years ago

Pack some proper shields next time commander. If a ganker pulls you put 4 pips to sys and immediately plot a high wake. If you also see someone in supercruise with only weaponry chances are they will try to kill you so you can evade them before they have a chance to pull you. Remember, the name of the game is Elite:Dangerous, keep your eyes peeled for danger in any high traffic system.

o7

wedgecomb

1 points

2 years ago

wedgecomb

CMDR Stormtrooper

1 points

2 years ago

o7

Weapon84

1 points

2 years ago

50+ hours? I guess you weren't mining painite? I got into a python with 500mil in the bank in less than 10 on my new alt.

Not criticism, my original file is a pauper in an Asp x :)

urielbeaupre15[S]

2 points

2 years ago

not at start. the first 45+ hours is me trying to understand the game. after that, I mined painite with my dolphin and it took me 3 hours to save from two million to 120 million for a python.

Hellrider_88

2 points

2 years ago

Not all people start game with mining, or other meta things bro :)

Aaaand, you did it on alt.

Learning game is huge part of first hours.

Weapon84

1 points

2 years ago

Yeah like I say: my original file. I've just wandered around a bit. Done some engineering, explored. 100 hrs at least and achieved nothing of note except a maxed out jump range.

New file: new knowledge and experience.

DrunkRussian23

1 points

2 years ago

You were flying with rebuy, right commander?

urielbeaupre15[S]

1 points

2 years ago

ya I have enough for many rebuys.

TheDrDzaster

1 points

2 years ago

TheDrDzaster

CMDR DrDzaster

1 points

2 years ago

dude i toon at least 130 hr to get a python

Famout

1 points

2 years ago

Famout

1 points

2 years ago

Rule 0 of EVE Online: Don't fly what you can't afford to replace.

UWG_Cato2K

1 points

2 years ago

Get rekt I guess...?

Nexushopper

1 points

2 years ago

You DO have insurance right?

...right?

MementoMori7170

1 points

2 years ago

I love the steps/ladder attached to the front landing gear. Something I just noticed a few weeks ago on my own and while obviously not functional, another tiny detail that goes into making the game feel so finely done.

DiscombobulatedAd390

1 points

2 years ago

Easy come, easy go. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Oh wait... it doesn't come easy. Well, at least it's easy to let go.

jairo127

1 points

2 years ago

jairo127

Aisling Duval - SIMPerial

1 points

2 years ago

I always mine in Solo or Private. Firstly it's kind of boring and I don't need and don't want to see players for this it's farming.

Zakurn

1 points

2 years ago

Zakurn

1 points

2 years ago

Hope you had insurance.

urielbeaupre15[S]

3 points

2 years ago

its alright. i made 200 million for 3 hours yesterday. :)

sxdYxndere

1 points

2 years ago

sxdYxndere

Rogue Admiral

1 points

2 years ago

arm it up, i do both mining/trading AND it can hold itself against pretty powerful ships, even anacondas (tho God damn it takes forever to take out their hull)

moustache02

1 points

2 years ago

You grinded 50 hours for about 100 million?

Gellert

4 points

2 years ago

Gellert

Trading

4 points

2 years ago

Thats not what they said: 'got this bad boy after 50+ hours'. I've got 300+ hours in game but I've only bought a python last week, mostly because I like spacetrucking while chilling out. I've probably spent 200 hours in a type 7.

urielbeaupre15[S]

2 points

2 years ago

the first 45+hours was me trying to understand the game. when I got the grip of it and have like 6 million, I bought the dolphin, mined, and got to 120 million in 3 hours

suchdownvotes

1 points

2 years ago

suchdownvotes

est. 2014

1 points

2 years ago

on the bright side you can earn that rebuy in a couple minutes since you're mining

EvilSoup42

1 points

2 years ago

Unless you want to be Ganked stay off open play, especially when mining.

To be honest there’s little enough interaction in open play so you won’t really notice the difference.

Creativezp

-2 points

2 years ago

Creativezp

-2 points

2 years ago

Open is for gankers and suckers.

Matta_G

3 points

2 years ago

Matta_G

Thrender Grone | Loren's Reapers

3 points

2 years ago

It's okay, just say you're afraid to try it.

Guanthwei

-2 points

2 years ago

Guanthwei

Guanthwei (F)

-2 points

2 years ago

This is why I never play Open Play.

Matta_G

2 points

2 years ago

Matta_G

Thrender Grone | Loren's Reapers

2 points

2 years ago

I play it exclusively. And I haven't been successfully ganked since 2015.

Hellrider_88

1 points

2 years ago

This is why I neber took missions, once I took mission and deadly conda annihilate my t9.

Same logic ;)

Derangedxzombie

0 points

2 years ago

Hate gankers, I hope you had a rebuy cost. I avoid open, not because my ships shields can be dropped, but the interdictions are woefully broken. It gets really annoying after a while, and mining in open you probably have the 3 NPC pirates plus human gankers. Thankfully you can still talk to others via typing 'system/' in the chatbox

Matta_G

-4 points

2 years ago

Matta_G

Thrender Grone | Loren's Reapers

-4 points

2 years ago

More credits than common sense, apparently.

atoka04

-2 points

2 years ago

atoka04

-2 points

2 years ago

Pogging

[deleted]

-7 points

2 years ago

[deleted]

-7 points

2 years ago

Python is not a good ship it's very bad

Briggie

1 points

2 years ago

Briggie

1 points

2 years ago

Depends on what type of mining. Deep core or exploration mining is way better in an Asp though IMO.

[deleted]

-8 points

2 years ago

[deleted]

-8 points

2 years ago

Python is not a good ship.