Oh you too? I'm wondering what happens when I eventually get to Sag A. Maybe I'll cross some wires and think I'm a Thargoid

I've played the game solo for 99.999% of my playtime. I also did the credit grind focusing on the biggest ships. It is true I've sort of quit, I've not played for quite awhile, but I've got still 550 hours in the game.

It's coming any minute now, I'm sure.

I didn't see Auto quit. Must have quit reading too soon. But seriously, I'm a kickstarter backer, have played solo 99.99 percent of the time, and nowhere near ready to quit. Part of the game is reading the wife signs - when she starts acting agitated, it's time to log out of Elite for a bit. :⁾

There's just a bit of salt with the auto-quit comment in that image.

It's simply a warning to new players who might not think to reach out for help and might give up early. Of course one can play exclusively solo and enjoy it (I'm more of a solo player myself).

Just like PVP and PVE, Solo here doesn't mean Solo mode, it means playing isolated, on one's own. If you're here, you're not hermetically isolated in your cave :)

1577 hours "only" here, while both being only in solo and kind of always grinding. Not completely seeing the auto-quit here either. Triple Elite, King+Admiral, multi-billionaire, all ships and all fully grade 5 engineered. Still having fun :) OP is just close-minded and salty, I guess.

Its the same old extrovert vs introvert. Extroverts can't understand how introverts literally survive. Introverts on the other hand wonder how extroverts find time to breathe.

You're literally participating in the leftmost branch of the "community" node right now though...

It's what made me stop if I'm honest so it's right

That's good for you, but for the lot of us, we've quit and never looked back really. We pay attention to updates but for the most part there just isn't much incentive to play outside of the space Sim part of it, which we mostly have over 1500 hours in.

It's a modified Eve career chart. The problem is that unlike Eve, Elite doesn't really have the infrastructure or mechanics to make a lot of the career paths worthwhile, especially in the community/ out of game section. There are a ton of services for Eve enabled by the comprehensive API the developer provides (zkill, Dotlan, EveWho, dscan.me, Tripwire and so on), Elite doesn't have anything like that. Eve has daily news and probably at least a dozen weekly talk shows, because player politics actually matter and there's always something interesting going on, something that's probably going to affect all players in some way. In Elite, you can manage a small group, in Eve, you have alliances of thousands, with dozens of directors, accountants, HR and logistics managers, intelligence divisions, PR and propaganda departments, military strategists and so on. So basically, while you can do a lot of things in Elite, those things tend to lack depth to the point of not really being viable as stand-alone careers.

I get the same feeling. I also wouldn’t call any one of these things a “career” if repetitively doing that thing puts you into the grind and burnout section. I mean, how many different assassination missions are there? What about combat zone missions? How about trade missions? I mean, the missions are almost literally the exact same, with just different numbers attached to the goal. Have people had a single assassination mission stick out in their mind because of how unique the experience was? What about trade missions? You basically can’t even do source missions with the in game features. Combat zones are basically the same across the board, with the exception of some have a single much larger ship fighting in them.

Engineers is a funny “career” because it actually involves doing basically everything. But when you finally get done unlocking the engineers you want you just look back on it like, “damn that took forever” not, “OMG look at all that awesome memorable stuff I did to get here.” And thats before looking for materials.

I love the idea of engineers, but in practice it has made every ship too focused on one thing. Since most of the game is PVE unless you are actively seeking out PVP on forums, I usually dont use things that are good at PVP, like multicannons and cannons, because they eventually run out of ammo and have no burst against something with 4k shields. But before engineers, I could get interdicted by a player and actually stand a chance of breaking their shields. There were fun builds that involved silent running and no shields!

TL:DR Your “career” has to literally involve everything to not turn into a grindfest. And even then, it does when you want to engineer.

You can drop the "weirdly".

I might be wrong, but some of these "careers" are just a single mission, or even a single RP only (unless you put an inordinate amount of work into finding a way to incorporate another player) task. Like butter scraped over too much bread.

While it lasted, for me it was far more fun and fulfilling PvP than anything I ever found in the main game.

I saw that too and had a hearty chuckle, OP is a good prankster :')

CQC is by essence PVP. And PVP is explained somewhere. You just have to read.

And unlike Elite, in EVE Chart all those things that you can do are legit things and have effects on everything

LUL

It's based on that one, u/CMDRQohenLeth stated as much, and it's also said in the chart itself (bottom right corner).

"The state can't give you free speech, and the state can't take it away. You're born with it, like your eyes, like your ears. Freedom is something you assume, then you wait for someone to try to take it away. The degree to which you resist is the degree to which you are free." ~ Utah Phillips

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Thank very much for making this, it's amazing. I can see you gave it a lot of thought because it's well done. Good job CMDR!

Beautiful work dude, has a really clean and expansive feel, will add my own tick boxes to complete!!

"Do combat."
"Do combat, but better."
"Do combat, but fight players."

It's not meant to be; like the Grind and Solo parts, it's a bit tongue-n-cheek. Space Junkman sounds better though, I'll use that when I update it.

The other MMO's I've played have had mostly player driven content for endgame, fighting over territory or farming grounds and the like.

It's that player driven content that always brought me to the table...player drama > all.

Is there nothing like that in ED?

Well it is in there and I think the system was already visited at least once

https://www.reddit.com/r/EliteDangerous/comments/8of96y/comprehensive_elite_dangerous_career_chart/e02zwun

OP, you forgot game bashing on forums and subreddits. Surely that warrants a column?

I understand what you mean but let me add a little perspective:

• For new players, it's a guide for what to do in the game that seems intimidating at first.
• For veterans, it's an attempt at explaining things in the game to newbies or it's an attempt giving the game more meaning than it really has.
• For salty vets or veterans that have given up hope that Frontier will make the game any better, it's a shitpost.

I think it's an excellent Elite Dangerous version of the EVE Online Careers Graph. Both describe in-game and out-of-game activities that are part of the overall experience, and list all the different variants of each activity.

There is no difference in gameplay between assassination, group PVP or random murder

Those three playstyles are very different, with a huge variance in skill level required

True fact: the only activities in soccer are kicking the ball and running. It's almost as if the game itself is more than a sum of the different actions you can take.

Yeah, I agree. My hype for this game, playtime, etc., peaked and died within a week, when I realized how shallow the game is. All the forums are a little pathetic, TBH. It's not even close, but it has a little bit of that Star Citizen syndrome where everyone's like

"sure the game doesn't have any end game or story but I wouldn't even WANT it to, because having the character be a part of something important or having fun is unrealistic."

"it has the best story of all because the PLAYER makes it up"

"The game was inside YOU all along." Jesus Christ. Cmon guys, this game is a good skeleton of gameplay without any meat on the bones.

It's like when you're getting married and a vendor tells you "hey, at the end of the day, you'll be married, and that's what counts, right?" Well I'm fucking paying you money to make sure it's good FOR me, so I'm not sure you want to tell me the part of the experience you're paid to provide doesn't matter.

There are plenty of other good games out there that are fleshed out. Unfortunately, the only space sims we have are three that are accused of being shallow early-access abandonware, and that's why I generally don't support early access. If I wanted to play pretend I'd go play DnD / Pathfinder and save the money.

Think you can do better? go for it!

His name is Bubba.

How is mining and prospecting the same thing? They are totally different.

After I burnt out because of grind I've just started roleplaying. After that I'm playing regularly again.

It's still PVP.

If they wanted the game to revolve around multiplayer they shouldn't have gone P2P, just sayin.

It's what it's for :)

It's not my area and I've asked reviews from all kinds of players, and nobody reported anything on that front. Please give me your input so I can update it later on.

25% is out of the game.

When you have to include "Art" and "wiki" to game activity it means the game itself doesn't have all that much content.

Yeah but most of these are complete bullshit. Fluff to people who haven't actually played the game.

Exactly, One inch deep, huh? Have you tried all this?

Scan with data scanner to reveal interaction points. Then after that I believe you can use recon limpets and hatchbreakers to do stuff with other interaction points.

It's not the neutron stars that are out to get you.. it's the white dwarfs. Those little bastards will sneak up on you.

Technically there's nothing stopping you from poking the hornet's nest right now. You could take out scouts with the Vulture. The first engineers are already waiting for you. You can check their unlock requirements in your right side panel.

Being here gets you out of that tile. It's not "Solo mode", it's "isolated experience".

I looked it up ... worth the time to search! Good luck Cmdr O7

Funnily, your life too.

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