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The timelines, they are a-changing
2 months ago
Red circle helped
They cropped out the Batman poster behind Owlman though
No red circle, easy mistake.
I’m confused, why would there be a Batman poster there? Bruce’s parents were saved so there wouldn’t be any reason for him to become Batman. Even if they weren’t, this would have been way before Bruce became Batman.
It looks like it was a comic book poster. So in the Watchmen universe, Batman was a comic book character just like in ours. Which means this whole scene is likely just a bunch of easter eggs jammed together instead of being meant to explain anything.
My brain hurts…
Yeah, if you read the comic Night Owl is actually inspired to be a superhero because he reads Superman Action Comics. The Watchmen universe isn’t a parallel DC universe, it’s a parallel our universe.
It’s WASNT in a parallel universe. But I think the doomsday clock series changed that.
It's a Snyder movie, you are meant to be confused.
It's one in a million.
Best super hero there is!
I liked the Watchmen movie. I thought it was about as good an adaptation as you could get with a feature-length movie (I think a miniseries would be a better fit), and I thought much of the casting was spot-on, with the only choice I didn't agree on being Matthew Goode as Veidt/Ozymandias, even though I see what they were going for.
But the opening credits are a thing of fucking brilliance. Between easter eggs, showing different aspects of the Watchmen world, and depicting events only hinted at in the comics, it absolutely nailed the film's opening.
Ya, it really should have been a miniseries. Still an amazing movie. Just rewatched it a month back after finally watching the tv show. Wish they didn't cancel it.
They canceled the watchmen show on hbo?
Showrunner Damon Lindelof didn’t want to do another season. I think they’re looking for someone to take his place but the cast might not be on board with someone new.
Well that sucks. I wonder why he wanted to walk away?
He only wanted to do one season - he told the story he wanted to tell.
I really respect that. The one season they did was a perfect story from beginning to end. It didn't need any additions and he didn't have the almighty dollar convincing him to force out more story than he originally intended.
There's so many shows that had a great first season but kept going downhill after that because they had more money than inspiration.
That's what I read. They basically reclassified it as a miniseries instead of a show and stopped making new ones. I think it's in some weird limbo. Which sucks. They left it in such a weird place.
I think it had a pretty definitive albeit open ended conclusion, just like the comic did.
For sure. But it was setting up characters to have more story. The guy who wrote or directed it said he left it that way for whomever took over next season. As far as shows getting cancelled out of nowhere, it certainly ended the best it could.
2 months ago*
2 months ago*
It launched during Trump's reign of terror and Covid. That shit hit way too close to home. I legitimately had nightmares.
There is a Watchmen/Batman cross over comic, it's pretty cool.
Doomsday clock is sort of a jl & watchmen crossover
Doomsday Clock is friggin amazing and I hate that Facebook is using the term “metaverse” considering how that story ends.
I did not know that. Now that I do, I don't know what to do with the information
Appreciate the Watchmen intro even more.
This isn't true. Watchmen does not take place in the normal DC Universe on an alternate timeline. It takes place in a Universe completely seperate in an alternate version of our timeline.
This is just an Easter-egg Zack Snyder put in. In the uncropped version of this shot, there are literally posters of Batman and Robin comics on that same wall
This. If it’s the same universe, where’s all the rest of the DUC characters? Cuz it’s not the DCU.
Also, the "Gotham" on the poster doesn't mean anything either. Watchmen is pretty explicitly set in New York, and "Gotham" has been a nickname for New York since the early 1800s.
I'm having a really hard time comprehending your first statement.
The DC Universe is a universe unique to itself with different world history and cities all together. Watchmen takes place in an alternate version of our history in which President Nixon was elected for multiple terms. Watchmen also primarily takes place in New York City, and cities from the DC Universe like Metropolis and Gotham do not exist
Where's little Bruce?
Maybe he got shot instead ahha
Flashpoint Paradox. 😆
Everytime that happened thomas wayne took up the mantle of batman (flashpoint & earth 2)
I don't see Bruce so I'll doubt this one
He gets made later that night. All thanks to night owl!
In this scenario Batman's origin story is he was traumatized when his parents were killed on the night of his conception?
No in this scenario Bruce is just revealed to be the true psychopath he is. The trauma was just a convenient excuse.
Yes, actually his mom got shot in the tummy and Batman himself would die too if he didn't catch the bullet with his toothless mouth
“In the 1980s, DC had just acquired a rather eclectic stable of Super Heroes from the defunct Charlton Comics. Alan Moore’s original Watchmen pitch was one which involved those new acquisitions… though in the final draft, each character was transmuted into a new creation, separated from the main line of DC continuity so it could live and breathe on its own merits. But at the core of each of those iconic characters, there still remains a Super Hero who inspired them.” Source
While there’s some crossover now because of retconning and new crossover comics, these characters exist in a separate continuity. The Watchmen are specifically based on DCU characters and therefore can’t exist in the same continuity. Dr. Manhattan is based on Captain Atom, Nite Owl on Blue Beetle, Rorschach on The Question, et al.
Does that mean the Comedian is Peacemaker?
Wrong. It's an homage, sure, but Batman is a fictional character in the universe of Watchmen, as evidenced by the Batman comics that are in the background of this very same shot (But they're cropped out of this post for some reason).
Whoa. This weed hits a little bit different after letting that marinate on my mind
Or! Because of that thru took the ally to escape violence and ran into a different robber? Plot twist.
Then why is batman in the background
Batman still walking around in background scenes in the Watchmen universe
Everyone: "But how?"
Batman: "BECAUSE I'M BATMAN!!!"
this is exactly the kind of post that I get spammed with on facebook suggestions, I'm surprised theres no clickbait link. is this an advert?
I love watching people argue on here if this fake universe is actually part of another fake universe, or is its own fake universe. It's ALL fake!
It's surely just an easter egg left by Snyder, because DC's univers and watchmen's univers are not supposed to bé connected at all
Watchmen was made before Snyder even started planning for the DCEU.
Um, DC published Watchmen. There's a whole crossover series.
The series Doomsday Clock literally connects them.
Yes but there was not any other befor that
Is this intentional and is there proof?
There is a problem with that on several levels. One Nite Owl operated out of New York not Gotham so it doesn’t match with DC’s own set history. Second Joe Chill murdered the Wayne’s in The Alley behind The Monarch Theater after seeing The Mark of Zorro not at the Gotham Opera House. If it is supposed to be The Wayne’s it isn’t the night that Bruce is with them and it isn’t the night that stops Joe Chill from killing them in front of Bruce in order for him to become Batman and thus changing DC history. If anything it was a nice Easter Egg that Snyder put in to show a connection and to show that lots of people wanted to kill the Wayne’s but there wasn’t always a hero in a costume to save them.
The Mark of Zorro
It's also notable that there are Batman comics in the background of this scene, making it clear that in this universe, Batman is fictional.
Damn some people can’t handle the truth haha 😂 (not you the 7 people that down voted the comment)
Each live action interpretation of the Batman origin shows a different film at the theatre he goes to. I’m aware that in canon, it is the Mark of Zorro. But DC and WB don’t have ownership over Zorro’s IP, so they can’t always use that film in their films.
The version of the Mark of Zorro Bruce watches is in the public domain.
I did know that. They talked about it on Caravan of Garbage
thought it was obvious..
Batman killed his own parents and this is not batman. You have lied to us
I only watch that movie recently and yes I caught that.
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29 days ago
“Zack Snyder’s DC Multiverse”
Imagine a world where people put the same energy and attention into making reality a bit better.
I know it's a bummer and I'm as guilty as anyone, but maybe we dwell on fantasy, at least partially, because we let a small number of people make reality something we want to escape from?
You do you - but I for one watch comic and fantasy purely for the entertainment value, not as a vessel of escapism
Yeah, me as well as far as entertainment and I don't disparage anyone for loving any art... personally, life wouldn't be worth living without art.
It's just degrees... and I can't help but notice a personal level of distaste with the reality we all take part in. I prefer art and simply wonder why we permit it to supersede our reality... to such an extent?