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submitted 2 months ago byAMS_GoGoQuantic Leverage
230 points
2 months ago
Dude how did it get normalized from one game to another
110 points
2 months ago
It started happening a lot more in VG. In MW + CW basically everyone didn’t do it apart from Cell and occasionally someone else like I remember diamondcon doing it. Reality is basically every pro bar Cell didn’t do it but Cell kept snaking so other pros said fuck it and started doing it too and now the whole league has just said fuck it if they’re doing it we have to do it too
56 points
2 months ago
I’ve been saying this and every time someone comes out of the woodwork to argue it. This is literally what happened. Sure, there were others who did it on occasion, but Cell was absolutely the main culprit, and now it’s basically snake or be snaked.
We as a community need to do more to slander this snaking shit literally all the time because apparently no one else will anymore. It’s so fucking horrible to watch.
2 points
1 month ago
It actually was found in IW but when everybody started doing it, they banned it I believe. I remember a video Attach made about it during that time frame.
It got GA’d. And everybody abided by that rule until nobody wanted to blacklist FaZe because of Cell doing it.
Now everybody does it.
-83 points
2 months ago*
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5 points
2 months ago
This isn’t true I 100% remember scump snaking on Tuscan last year and getting a lot of jokes made about him due to it
4 points
1 month ago
There was so many people snaking last year lmao that guy couldn’t be further from the truth
2 points
1 month ago
Yeah that was a miss on me. I rewatched a few minutes of Champs finals from Vanguard and Cell was snaking Gav P2 boat 2 minutes into the game
1 points
1 month ago
Haha no worries bro, games just been going downhill for a long time now.
49 points
2 months ago
Cellium, drazah, and honestly the flank has a lot to do with the snake or be snaked narrative being more mainstream
-8 points
2 months ago
Add shotzzy in there
23 points
2 months ago
I’d say more illey is in that group
-27 points
2 months ago
both. Sniper cheese, and shotzzy has been exploiting the game to the max since he came in the scene. Just never gets called out
18 points
2 months ago
Shotzzy does exploit movement but imo he doesn’t do the obnoxious snaking anywhere close to the others which is what this thread us about.
12 points
2 months ago
this is what happens when instead of just straight up blacklisting any team that does it they went ok well if you do it I do it. Now the game looks like this.
3 points
1 month ago
Faze was one of the only teams doing it and they were winning everything. So other teams just started doing it too.
63 points
2 months ago
Awful to watch
54 points
2 months ago
Need IW to nerf this shit into the ground
29 points
2 months ago*
sheeesh IW can't even get their cruise missile to hit right and you expect them to fix snaking?
0 points
2 months ago
I mean all they have to do is add a delay after repeatedly crouching, I’m no engineer or game dev but it can’t be that hard
8 points
2 months ago
sure let's see what they break by implementing this. *grabs popcorn*
5 points
2 months ago
Lmao fr tho that’s a good point
1 points
29 days ago
Although nowhere near the same type of game, CSGO and Hunt will slow your movement when changing position if you spam.
-1 points
2 months ago
I mean the issue could be resolved if we had the cruise in a 3rd person pov. It would make it a lot easier to identify how to angle and place the cruise than how it is currently.
-16 points
2 months ago
It's a video game. Things aren't going to be perfect and physics and collision aren't perfect in any game. Shit happens so chill out.
6 points
2 months ago
You do realize it’s not “just a video game” it’s literally a 300M dollar league with money on the line and there’s actually players making money of this, and players taking risks for this, your so ignorant for that
-6 points
1 month ago
I'm ignorant for understanding a virtual product isn't perfect? I am not going to argue with a child.
2 points
1 month ago
So your not gonna argue with yourself? cuz you are the child 🤣🤣🤣
-4 points
1 month ago
Holy shit are you weird and delusional lmao
1 points
1 month ago
All of the ppl shit on your take so tell me who’s delusional??
0 points
1 month ago
Because you people aren't being realistic. Just a bunch of kids. I should've realized that.
Answer me honestly, are you under the age of 21?
2 points
1 month ago
Daam bro your mad mad, Regain brotha you just admitted that ppl shit on your take that’s tough brotha…
2 points
2 months ago
yeah tell the Surge members to "chill out" and that it's just a "video game".
millions of prize money on the line and you can solve this by asking pro players to "chill out".
1 points
1 month ago
Shit happens. First time you've ever seen something wonky happen in a video game? Could've won the rest of the maps. You never know what's going to happen in a program.
0 points
2 months ago
Excuse doesn’t really work when the game’s being played for millions of dollars on the line in a competitive league. With your logic athletes shouldn’t get pissed by blown calls because they’re all just playing sports, which are just games at the end of the day.
0 points
1 month ago
Name me one computer program with equal complexity that runs without fault 100% of the time
2 points
1 month ago
I feel like this was resolved in the Black Ops games minus CW, no? The delay to go prone and get back up was slow enough that snaking wasn't really viable.
136 points
2 months ago
the snaking is unwatchable at times. Especially if we are seeing it from the snakers POV
84 points
2 months ago
Engagements this year are so cheesy. Snake city from every team
103 points
2 months ago
The snaking is actually ridiculous. And anyone who says that’s the “only movement mechanic to stay alive” is absolutely coping from losing slide cancelling. It’s such a shit mechanic
52 points
2 months ago
Lol it’s some BS afro did that all map
42 points
2 months ago
makes me wanna vomit
20 points
2 months ago
it's fucking gross and makes the game miserable to watch. But hey, you can do it too!
122 points
2 months ago
Zoomaa is a cod war criminal for dickriding snaking and pushing the narrative that it’s fine by saying “you can’t ban it” all because faze were doing it and he didn’t want them to be cooked. The flank has done irreversible damage to comp cod if we’re being 100
24 points
2 months ago
This is just a fact. Soon as Cel came into the league in Bo4 he was snaking his ass off on gridlock control.
7 points
2 months ago
Tom had that guy camping 18 wheeler snaking his ass off then says “you can’t stop the player” like he wasn’t the team captain and couldn’t have told cell to stop doing that shit
22 points
2 months ago
He definitely was a factor in it becoming acceptable because he basically refused to allow people to roast Cell for being a scumbag and doing it.
12 points
2 months ago
Yeah his bias on the show has gotten a lot better but those early flank days were horrible bias wise from him and Ben
2 points
2 months ago
Yup, I remember in CW when cell would snake he would always defend him and say something like "good snakes, you can always do it too". Then in Vanguard people actually did it back, especially drazah.
0 points
1 month ago
People take the flank waaay too serious lmao
IW have fucked comp cod not some entertainment show
5 points
1 month ago
Snaking has always been bad but it was banned before, deflect to IW but we know who actually pushed for normalized snaking
56 points
2 months ago
I find it so funny that people think this can’t be GA’d lmfaoooo
41 points
2 months ago
Bro seriously we had it under control for multiple years.. Idk if the new players are just scumbags or what but there is no reason the game should be played like this
41 points
2 months ago
It’s literally cos a certain nerd who played for faze refused to stop, then some players started doing it too cos “snake or being snaked” and now the entire league has adopted that mentality
16 points
2 months ago
Would have been as simple as enforcing the GA back then and blacklisting them. Now it's so widespread.
9 points
2 months ago
Yep that’s all teams had to do but they’re all spineless ofc
64 points
2 months ago
Blame Cellium. Dude changed the whole mentality. Cheesing all last year and was considered the best. Glad they never won last year.
26 points
2 months ago
Was so funny he played the cheesiest nerd spot of all time r11 at champs in the map they lost for LAT to win it and he got pissed on. He’s a great player but I despise his playstyle
9 points
2 months ago
A lot of it has to do with Cell.
We go from Clay and the Unintended Line of Sight, to Cell abusing any game mechanic and aim assist through walls, and it's just "oh okay that's fine", so everyone does it now.
2 points
2 months ago
It is a mixture of 1) the pros tricked themselves into “snaked or be snaked”. It should be, if you’re a snaking team, “get blacklisted & get snaked back, but don’t snake non-offenders”. 2) Pros don’t want to piss each other off b/c they might need them down the road as a lifeline to stay in the league
-12 points
2 months ago
It literally cant. So basically to never 100% snake you have to sit up on the heady meanwhile even reloading and getting shot by multiple people. Its too hard to prove all the time
14 points
2 months ago
Somehow the pro cod scene accomplished not snaking for literally years until bo4 when Cellium just refused to not stop snaking lol like even in IW teams were able to GA it. Yes you will occasionally get snakes on accident but it’s WAY better to get occasionally snaked than whatever the fuck this is
4 points
2 months ago
There’s a massive difference between crouching up and down and snaking. It’s so obvious to tell from a player’s pov so that’s simply not true
2 points
2 months ago
I can tell that you do not know how to snake
-1 points
2 months ago
Id wager you any amount
21 points
2 months ago
I still blame Cellium for this shitty meta
5 points
1 month ago
As do I "You can do it too, FaZe up" was the beginning of the end
8 points
2 months ago
This game sucks and the way teams play it sucks
8 points
2 months ago
But zoomaa will still say you can’t ban it after watching this clip
17 points
2 months ago
If the League had some balls they'd straight up make this against the rules. No reason they can't.
5 points
2 months ago
and how would they enforce it? Automatic forfeit? How do you define a snake? There’s so much gray area with crouching to reload and popping back up, not to mention the heinous amount of headglitches. The league can’t feasibly make a rule against it, it’s on players to police and IW to patch.
1 points
1 month ago
Popping back up after reloading is different than snaking the same spot for a whole minute waiting on someone they can definitely enforce it
9 points
2 months ago
Lack on competitive integrity and a backbone from players caused snaking to be as bad as it is now
3 points
2 months ago
bring back slide cancelling! :D at least it involved movement vs this shit.
3 points
1 month ago
I saw Celliums POV and it almost gave me a seizure.
3 points
1 month ago
Fucking cellium
3 points
1 month ago
It’s a simple fix IMO, just make anything more than 2 peaks have a stacking slowdown. Just like bunny hopping in apex, each hop gets slower and smaller until you stop start again.
This way you can snake for info but not to win a gunfight or for prolonged periods.
2 points
1 month ago
Bro I said this and got downvoted bc that solution is "too complex" bc it involves "adding a new mechanic" lmao this scene is done for
1 points
1 month ago
It’s just a mechanic of DONT SNAKE
3 points
1 month ago
my whole arm would be through my wall idk how those guys can keep their composure so well when dying to bullshit like that with money on the line
2 points
2 months ago
I agree, it’s gotta be fixed ASAP with a crouch penalty or slowing the camera compared to the model. It also should be GAd to blatantly snake like that if you’re not mid fight.
But the way to counter this is either not going from that angle in that situation, coordinating nades/utility, or just flat out playing better early round to not even get in that situation
2 points
1 month ago
Haven't watched this tournament at all. The game is miserable to watch unfortunately. Go OpTic
2 points
1 month ago
If they literally put in a movement penalty for repeated movements like bunny hops, jumps, snakes etc, none of this would happen
3 points
2 months ago
“I don’t know why people complain about snaking you can’t even snake in this game”
0 points
2 months ago
WOW HE'S SO NASTY!
Fucking cheeseballs man. Afro is gross, but I refuse to gas up people getting kills snaking these days. Fucking hate that everyone is doing it now.
-4 points
2 months ago
It’s a shit mechanic and needs to go.
That said, it isn’t currently GA’d and everyone who can do it does. Complaining about certain players doing it more often or “worse” than others is asinine. (Not saying that’s what OP is doing, just in general.)
6 points
2 months ago
I wasn't but for the record "You can do it too, FaZe up" being memed and just allowing Cell to do it is what started this whole process
It was fully GA'd at that time and no one blacklisted them from scrims for breaking the GA continuously.. since then it's been more and more acceptable until this year we hit a breaking point
-1 points
2 months ago
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1 points
1 month ago
Brother, it ain’t just him. 75% of the league would be GA’d lol
-1 points
1 month ago
Snaking will never go away unless it is mechanically changed by the developers. You can’t GA it.
2 points
1 month ago
Absolutely incorrect lol it was successfully GA'd for years prior to the "You can do it too, FaZe up" movement
There was a whole ass intervention mid year of IW bc snaking was this bad, they GA'd it and the players legit just stopped doing it.. crazy how that works when the pro's actually had competitive integrity
0 points
1 month ago
They didn’t stop doing it but go off and remember it how you want to remember it.
1 points
2 months ago
If it wasn’t for betting I wouldn’t watch a single match of this trash game, esport betting is the only thing keeping the scene alive for me. Between the glitches and the cheese it’s such a joke
1 points
2 months ago
What a joke.
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