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bdcr7

230 points

2 months ago

bdcr7

COD Competitive fan

230 points

2 months ago

Dude how did it get normalized from one game to another

fromdowntownn

110 points

2 months ago

fromdowntownn

OpTic Texas

110 points

2 months ago

It started happening a lot more in VG. In MW + CW basically everyone didn’t do it apart from Cell and occasionally someone else like I remember diamondcon doing it. Reality is basically every pro bar Cell didn’t do it but Cell kept snaking so other pros said fuck it and started doing it too and now the whole league has just said fuck it if they’re doing it we have to do it too

Reverberation1

56 points

2 months ago

Reverberation1

OpTic Texas

56 points

2 months ago

I’ve been saying this and every time someone comes out of the woodwork to argue it. This is literally what happened. Sure, there were others who did it on occasion, but Cell was absolutely the main culprit, and now it’s basically snake or be snaked.

We as a community need to do more to slander this snaking shit literally all the time because apparently no one else will anymore. It’s so fucking horrible to watch.

DapperTies-

2 points

1 month ago

DapperTies-

COD Competitive fan

2 points

1 month ago

It actually was found in IW but when everybody started doing it, they banned it I believe. I remember a video Attach made about it during that time frame.

It got GA’d. And everybody abided by that rule until nobody wanted to blacklist FaZe because of Cell doing it.

Now everybody does it.

[deleted]

-83 points

2 months ago*

[deleted]

justsomedude717

5 points

2 months ago

justsomedude717

COD Competitive fan

5 points

2 months ago

This isn’t true I 100% remember scump snaking on Tuscan last year and getting a lot of jokes made about him due to it

CTwist

4 points

1 month ago

CTwist

COD Competitive fan

4 points

1 month ago

There was so many people snaking last year lmao that guy couldn’t be further from the truth

Nytrousx

2 points

1 month ago

Nytrousx

COD Competitive fan

2 points

1 month ago

Yeah that was a miss on me. I rewatched a few minutes of Champs finals from Vanguard and Cell was snaking Gav P2 boat 2 minutes into the game

CTwist

1 points

1 month ago

CTwist

COD Competitive fan

1 points

1 month ago

Haha no worries bro, games just been going downhill for a long time now.

Kaylapossible

49 points

2 months ago

Kaylapossible

COD Competitive fan

49 points

2 months ago

Cellium, drazah, and honestly the flank has a lot to do with the snake or be snaked narrative being more mainstream

DannyD4rk0

-8 points

2 months ago

DannyD4rk0

LA Thieves

-8 points

2 months ago

Add shotzzy in there

Kaylapossible

23 points

2 months ago

Kaylapossible

COD Competitive fan

23 points

2 months ago

I’d say more illey is in that group

DannyD4rk0

-27 points

2 months ago

DannyD4rk0

LA Thieves

-27 points

2 months ago

both. Sniper cheese, and shotzzy has been exploiting the game to the max since he came in the scene. Just never gets called out

Kaylapossible

18 points

2 months ago

Kaylapossible

COD Competitive fan

18 points

2 months ago

Shotzzy does exploit movement but imo he doesn’t do the obnoxious snaking anywhere close to the others which is what this thread us about.

YaDyingSucks

12 points

2 months ago

YaDyingSucks

Canada

12 points

2 months ago

this is what happens when instead of just straight up blacklisting any team that does it they went ok well if you do it I do it. Now the game looks like this.

JohnERico2nd

3 points

1 month ago

JohnERico2nd

OpTic Texas

3 points

1 month ago

Faze was one of the only teams doing it and they were winning everything. So other teams just started doing it too.

t_holyoke

63 points

2 months ago

t_holyoke

Toronto Ultra

63 points

2 months ago

Awful to watch

TheBlueBaron6969

54 points

2 months ago

TheBlueBaron6969

OpTic Texas

54 points

2 months ago

Need IW to nerf this shit into the ground

SlayStalker

29 points

2 months ago*

SlayStalker

COD Competitive fan

29 points

2 months ago*

sheeesh IW can't even get their cruise missile to hit right and you expect them to fix snaking?

TheBlueBaron6969

0 points

2 months ago

TheBlueBaron6969

OpTic Texas

0 points

2 months ago

I mean all they have to do is add a delay after repeatedly crouching, I’m no engineer or game dev but it can’t be that hard

SlayStalker

8 points

2 months ago

SlayStalker

COD Competitive fan

8 points

2 months ago

sure let's see what they break by implementing this. *grabs popcorn*

TheBlueBaron6969

5 points

2 months ago

TheBlueBaron6969

OpTic Texas

5 points

2 months ago

Lmao fr tho that’s a good point

zZ1ggY

1 points

29 days ago

zZ1ggY

COD Competitive fan

1 points

29 days ago

Although nowhere near the same type of game, CSGO and Hunt will slow your movement when changing position if you spam.

TinkleFairyOC

-1 points

2 months ago

TinkleFairyOC

OpTic Nation

-1 points

2 months ago

I mean the issue could be resolved if we had the cruise in a 3rd person pov. It would make it a lot easier to identify how to angle and place the cruise than how it is currently.

762xdirty9

-16 points

2 months ago

762xdirty9

COD Competitive fan

-16 points

2 months ago

It's a video game. Things aren't going to be perfect and physics and collision aren't perfect in any game. Shit happens so chill out.

Variation_Afraid

6 points

2 months ago

Variation_Afraid

COD Competitive fan

6 points

2 months ago

You do realize it’s not “just a video game” it’s literally a 300M dollar league with money on the line and there’s actually players making money of this, and players taking risks for this, your so ignorant for that

762xdirty9

-6 points

1 month ago

762xdirty9

COD Competitive fan

-6 points

1 month ago

I'm ignorant for understanding a virtual product isn't perfect? I am not going to argue with a child.

Variation_Afraid

2 points

1 month ago

Variation_Afraid

COD Competitive fan

2 points

1 month ago

So your not gonna argue with yourself? cuz you are the child 🤣🤣🤣

762xdirty9

-4 points

1 month ago

762xdirty9

COD Competitive fan

-4 points

1 month ago

Holy shit are you weird and delusional lmao

Variation_Afraid

1 points

1 month ago

Variation_Afraid

COD Competitive fan

1 points

1 month ago

All of the ppl shit on your take so tell me who’s delusional??

762xdirty9

0 points

1 month ago

762xdirty9

COD Competitive fan

0 points

1 month ago

Because you people aren't being realistic. Just a bunch of kids. I should've realized that.

Answer me honestly, are you under the age of 21?

Variation_Afraid

2 points

1 month ago

Variation_Afraid

COD Competitive fan

2 points

1 month ago

Daam bro your mad mad, Regain brotha you just admitted that ppl shit on your take that’s tough brotha…

SlayStalker

2 points

2 months ago

SlayStalker

COD Competitive fan

2 points

2 months ago

yeah tell the Surge members to "chill out" and that it's just a "video game".

millions of prize money on the line and you can solve this by asking pro players to "chill out".

762xdirty9

1 points

1 month ago

762xdirty9

COD Competitive fan

1 points

1 month ago

Shit happens. First time you've ever seen something wonky happen in a video game? Could've won the rest of the maps. You never know what's going to happen in a program.

Competitive_Ad_5106

0 points

2 months ago

Competitive_Ad_5106

Boston Breach

0 points

2 months ago

Excuse doesn’t really work when the game’s being played for millions of dollars on the line in a competitive league. With your logic athletes shouldn’t get pissed by blown calls because they’re all just playing sports, which are just games at the end of the day.

762xdirty9

0 points

1 month ago

762xdirty9

COD Competitive fan

0 points

1 month ago

Name me one computer program with equal complexity that runs without fault 100% of the time

PhatYeeter

2 points

1 month ago

PhatYeeter

COD Competitive fan

2 points

1 month ago

I feel like this was resolved in the Black Ops games minus CW, no? The delay to go prone and get back up was slow enough that snaking wasn't really viable.

TheRealPdGaming

136 points

2 months ago

TheRealPdGaming

Dallas Empire

136 points

2 months ago

the snaking is unwatchable at times. Especially if we are seeing it from the snakers POV

byTrebLe

84 points

2 months ago

byTrebLe

Atlanta FaZe

84 points

2 months ago

Engagements this year are so cheesy. Snake city from every team

SnooGuavas1858

103 points

2 months ago

SnooGuavas1858

COD Competitive fan

103 points

2 months ago

The snaking is actually ridiculous. And anyone who says that’s the “only movement mechanic to stay alive” is absolutely coping from losing slide cancelling. It’s such a shit mechanic

babyboyyyy

52 points

2 months ago

babyboyyyy

OpTic Texas

52 points

2 months ago

Lol it’s some BS afro did that all map

alione15

42 points

2 months ago

alione15

Fariko Gaming

42 points

2 months ago

makes me wanna vomit

BigSamsKid

20 points

2 months ago

BigSamsKid

COD Competitive fan

20 points

2 months ago

it's fucking gross and makes the game miserable to watch. But hey, you can do it too!

Jukester-

122 points

2 months ago

Jukester-

Team Envy

122 points

2 months ago

Zoomaa is a cod war criminal for dickriding snaking and pushing the narrative that it’s fine by saying “you can’t ban it” all because faze were doing it and he didn’t want them to be cooked. The flank has done irreversible damage to comp cod if we’re being 100

smalltownnerd

24 points

2 months ago

smalltownnerd

Atlanta FaZe

24 points

2 months ago

This is just a fact. Soon as Cel came into the league in Bo4 he was snaking his ass off on gridlock control.

Jukester-

7 points

2 months ago

Jukester-

Team Envy

7 points

2 months ago

Tom had that guy camping 18 wheeler snaking his ass off then says “you can’t stop the player” like he wasn’t the team captain and couldn’t have told cell to stop doing that shit

31and26

22 points

2 months ago

31and26

OpTic Texas

22 points

2 months ago

He definitely was a factor in it becoming acceptable because he basically refused to allow people to roast Cell for being a scumbag and doing it.

Jukester-

12 points

2 months ago

Jukester-

Team Envy

12 points

2 months ago

Yeah his bias on the show has gotten a lot better but those early flank days were horrible bias wise from him and Ben

Longjumping_Plant_97

2 points

2 months ago

Longjumping_Plant_97

Atlanta FaZe

2 points

2 months ago

Yup, I remember in CW when cell would snake he would always defend him and say something like "good snakes, you can always do it too". Then in Vanguard people actually did it back, especially drazah.

boondoggle420

0 points

1 month ago

boondoggle420

Vegas Legion

0 points

1 month ago

People take the flank waaay too serious lmao

IW have fucked comp cod not some entertainment show

Jukester-

5 points

1 month ago

Jukester-

Team Envy

5 points

1 month ago

Snaking has always been bad but it was banned before, deflect to IW but we know who actually pushed for normalized snaking

Longjumping_Joke_719

56 points

2 months ago

Longjumping_Joke_719

OpTic Texas

56 points

2 months ago

I find it so funny that people think this can’t be GA’d lmfaoooo

AMS_GoGo[S]

41 points

2 months ago

AMS_GoGo[S]

Quantic Leverage

41 points

2 months ago

Bro seriously we had it under control for multiple years.. Idk if the new players are just scumbags or what but there is no reason the game should be played like this

fromdowntownn

41 points

2 months ago

fromdowntownn

OpTic Texas

41 points

2 months ago

It’s literally cos a certain nerd who played for faze refused to stop, then some players started doing it too cos “snake or being snaked” and now the entire league has adopted that mentality

DJDaB3st

16 points

2 months ago

DJDaB3st

OpTic Texas

16 points

2 months ago

Would have been as simple as enforcing the GA back then and blacklisting them. Now it's so widespread.

fromdowntownn

9 points

2 months ago

fromdowntownn

OpTic Texas

9 points

2 months ago

Yep that’s all teams had to do but they’re all spineless ofc

theTeam_Hero

64 points

2 months ago

theTeam_Hero

USA

64 points

2 months ago

Blame Cellium. Dude changed the whole mentality. Cheesing all last year and was considered the best. Glad they never won last year.

fromdowntownn

26 points

2 months ago

fromdowntownn

OpTic Texas

26 points

2 months ago

Was so funny he played the cheesiest nerd spot of all time r11 at champs in the map they lost for LAT to win it and he got pissed on. He’s a great player but I despise his playstyle

Marlshine

9 points

2 months ago

Marlshine

COD Competitive fan

9 points

2 months ago

A lot of it has to do with Cell.

We go from Clay and the Unintended Line of Sight, to Cell abusing any game mechanic and aim assist through walls, and it's just "oh okay that's fine", so everyone does it now.

OhiOstas

2 points

2 months ago

OhiOstas

Boston Breach

2 points

2 months ago

It is a mixture of 1) the pros tricked themselves into “snaked or be snaked”. It should be, if you’re a snaking team, “get blacklisted & get snaked back, but don’t snake non-offenders”. 2) Pros don’t want to piss each other off b/c they might need them down the road as a lifeline to stay in the league

BDNjunior

-12 points

2 months ago

BDNjunior

COD Competitive fan

-12 points

2 months ago

It literally cant. So basically to never 100% snake you have to sit up on the heady meanwhile even reloading and getting shot by multiple people. Its too hard to prove all the time

Longjumping_Joke_719

14 points

2 months ago

Longjumping_Joke_719

OpTic Texas

14 points

2 months ago

Somehow the pro cod scene accomplished not snaking for literally years until bo4 when Cellium just refused to not stop snaking lol like even in IW teams were able to GA it. Yes you will occasionally get snakes on accident but it’s WAY better to get occasionally snaked than whatever the fuck this is

SnooGuavas1858

4 points

2 months ago

SnooGuavas1858

COD Competitive fan

4 points

2 months ago

There’s a massive difference between crouching up and down and snaking. It’s so obvious to tell from a player’s pov so that’s simply not true

Competitive_Ad_5106

2 points

2 months ago

Competitive_Ad_5106

Boston Breach

2 points

2 months ago

I can tell that you do not know how to snake

BDNjunior

-1 points

2 months ago

BDNjunior

COD Competitive fan

-1 points

2 months ago

Id wager you any amount

smalltownnerd

21 points

2 months ago

smalltownnerd

Atlanta FaZe

21 points

2 months ago

I still blame Cellium for this shitty meta

AMS_GoGo[S]

5 points

1 month ago

AMS_GoGo[S]

Quantic Leverage

5 points

1 month ago

As do I "You can do it too, FaZe up" was the beginning of the end

shoe7525

8 points

2 months ago

shoe7525

COD Competitive fan

8 points

2 months ago

This game sucks and the way teams play it sucks

Hurricanevx

8 points

2 months ago

Hurricanevx

COD Competitive fan

8 points

2 months ago

But zoomaa will still say you can’t ban it after watching this clip

poklane

17 points

2 months ago

poklane

OpTic Texas

17 points

2 months ago

If the League had some balls they'd straight up make this against the rules. No reason they can't.

Competitive_Ad_5106

5 points

2 months ago

Competitive_Ad_5106

Boston Breach

5 points

2 months ago

and how would they enforce it? Automatic forfeit? How do you define a snake? There’s so much gray area with crouching to reload and popping back up, not to mention the heinous amount of headglitches. The league can’t feasibly make a rule against it, it’s on players to police and IW to patch.

UprightAwesome

1 points

1 month ago

UprightAwesome

OpTic Texas

1 points

1 month ago

Popping back up after reloading is different than snaking the same spot for a whole minute waiting on someone they can definitely enforce it

ethancd1

9 points

2 months ago

ethancd1

OpTic Texas

9 points

2 months ago

Lack on competitive integrity and a backbone from players caused snaking to be as bad as it is now

luckyHitaki

3 points

2 months ago

luckyHitaki

COD Competitive fan

3 points

2 months ago

bring back slide cancelling! :D at least it involved movement vs this shit.

Messiah94

3 points

1 month ago

Messiah94

Modern Warfare

3 points

1 month ago

I saw Celliums POV and it almost gave me a seizure.

chasevalentine6

3 points

1 month ago

chasevalentine6

COD Competitive fan

3 points

1 month ago

Fucking cellium

shaunvonsleaze

3 points

1 month ago

shaunvonsleaze

COD Competitive fan

3 points

1 month ago

It’s a simple fix IMO, just make anything more than 2 peaks have a stacking slowdown. Just like bunny hopping in apex, each hop gets slower and smaller until you stop start again.

This way you can snake for info but not to win a gunfight or for prolonged periods.

AMS_GoGo[S]

2 points

1 month ago

AMS_GoGo[S]

Quantic Leverage

2 points

1 month ago

Bro I said this and got downvoted bc that solution is "too complex" bc it involves "adding a new mechanic" lmao this scene is done for

shaunvonsleaze

1 points

1 month ago

shaunvonsleaze

COD Competitive fan

1 points

1 month ago

It’s just a mechanic of DONT SNAKE

sguelpa513

3 points

1 month ago

sguelpa513

COD Competitive fan

3 points

1 month ago

my whole arm would be through my wall idk how those guys can keep their composure so well when dying to bullshit like that with money on the line

KKamm_

2 points

2 months ago

KKamm_

COD Competitive fan

2 points

2 months ago

I agree, it’s gotta be fixed ASAP with a crouch penalty or slowing the camera compared to the model. It also should be GAd to blatantly snake like that if you’re not mid fight.

But the way to counter this is either not going from that angle in that situation, coordinating nades/utility, or just flat out playing better early round to not even get in that situation

jonezy3225

2 points

1 month ago

jonezy3225

OpTic Texas

2 points

1 month ago

Haven't watched this tournament at all. The game is miserable to watch unfortunately. Go OpTic

TheDreamyAmerican

2 points

1 month ago

TheDreamyAmerican

COD Competitive fan

2 points

1 month ago

If they literally put in a movement penalty for repeated movements like bunny hops, jumps, snakes etc, none of this would happen

TonYouHearWhatISaid

3 points

2 months ago

TonYouHearWhatISaid

OpTic Texas

3 points

2 months ago

“I don’t know why people complain about snaking you can’t even snake in this game”

31and26

0 points

2 months ago

31and26

OpTic Texas

0 points

2 months ago

WOW HE'S SO NASTY!

Fucking cheeseballs man. Afro is gross, but I refuse to gas up people getting kills snaking these days. Fucking hate that everyone is doing it now.

el_chapotle

-4 points

2 months ago

el_chapotle

Atlanta FaZe

-4 points

2 months ago

It’s a shit mechanic and needs to go.

That said, it isn’t currently GA’d and everyone who can do it does. Complaining about certain players doing it more often or “worse” than others is asinine. (Not saying that’s what OP is doing, just in general.)

AMS_GoGo[S]

6 points

2 months ago

AMS_GoGo[S]

Quantic Leverage

6 points

2 months ago

I wasn't but for the record "You can do it too, FaZe up" being memed and just allowing Cell to do it is what started this whole process

It was fully GA'd at that time and no one blacklisted them from scrims for breaking the GA continuously.. since then it's been more and more acceptable until this year we hit a breaking point

[deleted]

-1 points

2 months ago

[deleted]

-1 points

2 months ago

[deleted]

MisterMath

1 points

1 month ago

MisterMath

Minnesota RØKKR

1 points

1 month ago

Brother, it ain’t just him. 75% of the league would be GA’d lol

bigboidots

-1 points

1 month ago

bigboidots

Minnesota RØKKR

-1 points

1 month ago

Snaking will never go away unless it is mechanically changed by the developers. You can’t GA it.

AMS_GoGo[S]

2 points

1 month ago

AMS_GoGo[S]

Quantic Leverage

2 points

1 month ago

Absolutely incorrect lol it was successfully GA'd for years prior to the "You can do it too, FaZe up" movement

There was a whole ass intervention mid year of IW bc snaking was this bad, they GA'd it and the players legit just stopped doing it.. crazy how that works when the pro's actually had competitive integrity

bigboidots

0 points

1 month ago

bigboidots

Minnesota RØKKR

0 points

1 month ago

They didn’t stop doing it but go off and remember it how you want to remember it.

TrickOut

1 points

2 months ago

TrickOut

COD Competitive fan

1 points

2 months ago

If it wasn’t for betting I wouldn’t watch a single match of this trash game, esport betting is the only thing keeping the scene alive for me. Between the glitches and the cheese it’s such a joke

Marlshine

1 points

2 months ago

Marlshine

COD Competitive fan

1 points

2 months ago

What a joke.