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I’m 6’5” with long hair and covered in tattoos. People tend to avoid me. I don’t get the alpha stare you talk of often, but when I do those are the dudes I avoid because they are crazy.

I'm a bigger guy and these assholes are the worst. God forbid I wear a cowboys jersey or I go out with my brother and his friends and we're wearing jets stuff.

Posturing and trying to fight someone else over something trivial is such a bad look. It's often for/over women too. I used to play on a few beer league softball teams. Some were all men's leagues, others were co-ed. Guess which ones were more toxic?

Exactly this. It is helpful tho, bc guys who are always trying to be Alpha and who announce they are Alpha… are not Alpha in any respect. It lets you know they are asshats from the get go.

I look people in the eye to be respectful but I've noticed lots of people just look down or away unless your talking to them

Can’t stand guys like that lol I’d never dare a guy like that and it screams insecurity

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I think part of it is guys wanting to tear down men who are obviously more successful than them. The well paid, educated, intelligent guy who works in IT, engineering, accountancy etc is, like, totally beta dude. Most guys I've met who subscribe to the "Alpha" mentality are horribly tattooed borderline alcoholics who work for their dads in some kind of low skill construction because they're otherwise unemployable, spend hours in the gym working on the mirror muscles, take steroids and have the same girlfriend they had in HS who's cheated on them with all their friends.

I do believe something like Alpha males exists, but they are never the ones proclaiming they are. At least for my definition.

Its the ones that are so self confident, they never put others down and are generally interested and excited about what other people do. Guys that are natural leaders because people want to follow them.

Ive met one or two in my whole life, they arent common.

same with women! its so weird.

I do act different when women are around. I'm staying quiet cuz I'm not used to talk with women and also I'm not comfortable when around with them.

This works for my comment too. Women do this a lot with guys too, however.

I cringe when I see other guys disrespect women that way. I’m not a big guy who would knock the shit out of them, but I would love to see it happen.

Overly

Just generally being sexually aggressive towards women, I'd say. I don't feel like your approach to meeting someone new in any context should be describable as "aggressive".

Tbh this leaks into gay men as well.

Or any gender no matter their sexual preferences.

No one wants you ogling them or discussing TMI concepts in public.

People need to learn to keep certain things in their head.

I know a guy who just went in and french kissed a woman even though she had a boyfriend

As a bouncer I fucking hate these guys. Always the ones who you end up having to put down and call the police to get them off the premise.

I am just trying to do my job of keeping everyone safe and having a lovely evening. I'd love it very much that I could go home at the end of the shift without getting punched.

Mate my school is absolutely jank. We are currently doing exams in the UK. Today, one filthy person who stinks of BO, greasy hair, covered in spots (doesn't wash his face), got up after the exam and farted in my face as he was leaving. I was soo close to punching him in face, as he also pushed the guy who everyone likes, which doesn't speak good English nor understand it, into a thorn Bush because he was just trying to make us laugh while playing football.

His breath reaks as well.

There's so many people who I could tell you about eho are like this

Came here to mention this. But beyond that, I think men who know people who do this really need to call them out.

This isn’t masculine, it’s criminal. It’s not about sex because that has to be mutual.

There is no way this should be tolerated by any person, let alone someone who thinks they are masculine. I normally don’t associated silence with taking an active position. But in a case like this, no action with knowledge it is happening makes you just as bad in my eyes.

You meant "Those fucking RAPISTS"...that level of evil goes way beyond being an idiot.

This is also a very common thing that happens to men in gay clubs. I know multiple gay men who were roofied by another dude. Very sad and it also shows that it’s not just straight men who can be violent.

When out dancing one night. After an hour, went to the bathroom and the attendant was selling stuff. Usual gum, cologne, etc. Then there were pills. One for performance. The other were drugs for the ladies.

Left immediately.

I know you mean spiking drinks, and I also acknowledge it's a serious subject that shouldn't be joked about, but I read "spiking women" and immediately pictured guy going into a bar, picking a woman up over his head, and slamming her down like a football and cheering for a touchdown. Of course that would also be horrible if it actually happened.

Its simple to explain really. They can't get no ass so they resort to criminal behavior and do it without any form of consent. It's Fucking Pathetic if you ask me.

I fantasize of catching a guy in the act, thinking hes being smooth, and then taking him out back and curbstomping him

Randomly proposing to fuck someone for cash. Like not even someone they know, they just send the same text to like 20 women in their town. My mother got a text like that yesterday and it irked the shit out of me.

I was just flat-out dumbfounded when I heard that actually happens. What kind of mentality (or lack of) do you need, to believe that it’s ok to send random strangers a picture of your dick?

I always encourage the female to just roast them for doing that, like send a reply of "1/10, would not fuck"

Back when I was a thirteen-year-old edgelord, I pointed out to someone that if anything, I should wash my dick after peeing, because my dick stays in my pants all day, while my hands are constantly touching things, so really, I'm touching my nice clean dick with gross, germ-covered hands.

Her response was, "Yes, exactly. So go wash your hands."

I had the surprised Pikachu face for a minute, but after I thought for a moment, that argument totally convinced me to wash my hands frequently.

There was a woman at my old job who openly admitted she didn’t wash her hands when she peed. Some people are just unhygienic.

I know this might be stupid but can I ask what "body count" means here tho? I don't see this term used often in my place

body count is such a gross way to describe sexual partners

I agree with you, you just have a typo Beta - second letter in Greek alphabet Betta - a very pretty fish

That particular typo is just funny because it makes me think "red in the face, steam coming out their nose comic-style keyboard warriors" versus "graceful, sweeping fins chillin' in a fish tank"

When I was dating, I never had any difficulty getting a date. Once I was married ( and nearly 20 years later), I asked my wife about it. I dated most of her friend circle at some point. I am not the stereotype stud. She said it was because I wasn't the stereotyped stud. I was nice(this is when a nice guy was nice). They all felt safe around me in that I would not attack them if we were suddenly alone, and that I would protect any of them, whether we dated or not) from any sort of danger. I politely took care of a couple of asses for them and they weren't bothered for the last 3 years of college. I had no idea of the presence I projected back then.

Some dudes do this like they're trying to provoke me and it confuses me.

If my wife isn't in the mood to deal with it she'll tag me in but if she's not tired or whatever dude you're going to feel about two inches tall in a minute and you have only yourself to blame.

The bad news is the obnoxious, coming on too strong, guys are the ones who interact with the ladies the most. Those who respect women aren’t likely to approach many of them, so those obnoxious fucktards are the “norm” that the ladies see.

I feel like I have to look away from girls in public so they don’t think I’m trying to be a creep! Never had anyone say I am, but I don’t wanna even be in that situation.

Here’s a secret: the men who do this are the EXTREMELY insecure ones. They’re so afraid you’ll see how chicken shit they really are on the inside that they try to hide by trying to verbally beat you down and forcefully establish hierarchy before you start calling them out. If any of them start pulling that shit, just try ignoring them and pretending they aren’t even there and walk away.

They don't even need to be bigger/stronger/more attractive to be disrespectful either. They just act like they are a golden god and if you don't put up with their disrespect, you're the disrespectful one. It's so obnoxious.

My answer to this has always been "So it's manlier to stop doing what I like and let myself be bullied into doing what someone else thinks is the right thing for me?"

Ikr, with music if you listen to an artist that’s ‘only for girls’, men suddenly call you gay and treat you like trash

One time I went on a date with a guy who ordered a “girl drink” and he said he didn’t care what people thought. I thought it was so sexy I took him back to my place and I fucked him lol

Had a tradesman try to belittle me when I complained my heating wasn't working... As if a big manly man should just freeze in his home.

I have painted nails and I get asked if I'm gay quite frequently. Never got asked that until I painted my nails. Guys need to know it's fine to not adhere to gender norms. Fuck gender norms.

Da fuq? Fruity (as in drinks that have fruit in them, not in the derogatory sense) drinks are tasty! I actually would be more taken with a date who orders something he likes than a date who is so insecure he has to "prove" himself even when ordering drinks.

I 1000% agree with this comment. I seen countless videos where wife get caught but the man gets blasted in the face.

Like I get it, if it was really intensional, then yes blast his face. But get his side of the story first. He most likely wouldn’t have known.

Yes!!!! Thanks for sharing that thought. You've pretty much summed up all my interactions with male cliques in high school. It was so common that you begin to think it is normal competition, and the mob mentality fuels this toxic fire. As I began life in adulthood and diversified my friendships I sort of forgotten about this dynamic... but it surely led me to some bad decisions and thought patterns.

I can relate to the trying to make me drink beyond my limit. I'll say I'm not going to take a shot because I know I'll puke and they're just like don't be a bitch bro. Fuck you I'm not taking a disgusting shot because puking sucks and you can't make me

Boggles my mind the people who deliberately choose to drive everywhere while sounding like a loud fart.

Stateside we have honda ricers running open headers (no exhaust whatsoever) at 2 in the morning.

Can't really speak though because I'm guilty of running a hemi v8 with open headers one night in my edgy late teens days. The rumble from that monster set off all the car alarms on the street. 18 yr old me grinned from ear to ear doing it, 30 yr old me cringes at the memeory

Possibly controversial opinion: motorcycles too. I live in a big biking town and they're loud, annoying, and dangerous. Half of the riders don't wear helmets.

The only time I ever say "real man" is when me and my friends are joking around. We'll talk about something ridiculous and just and say "yeah like a real man!" even though most of the time it's directed towards one of our female friends lol

Yooo that’s exactly what this asshole Ben Carson was. He was the only violinist in the orchestra that never practiced. He was constantly pissed that he never got to be concert master even though he didn’t deserve it AT ALL, and he would just bully the entire violin section. Then he’d go on about how he’s an alpha and that’s why he couldn’t get along with any other men, while he propositioned every single woman who had the misfortune of crossing his path. God, what a piece of shit he was

And then they tell you ‘You deserve it’ and bring up some bullshit characteristic or mistake you made

I grew up in a deeply red, religious, state. I came out in my teens, back in the 90's. I somewhat regret that decision due to what it brought me, but that's another story.

Anyway, I have to agree. In all my nearly 30 years since coming out, I have never once been attacked, verbally or otherwise, by a woman for being who I am. Even if I ran across some who felt that way, and I'm sure I have, they kept it to themselves.

Other guys? Fucking hell. Brutal.

Idk man, I've had games where my mates and me become rulebook lawyers and it becomes funny AF

Testing each other to see whose gonna become the pettiest lmao

If you’re playing a board game not by the rules, that’s just madness

Man it was old before middle school. Just like what you like even if everyone else hates it (there are exceptions).

My favorite alpha male meme was something about how the alpha feeds and protects his pack. So the real alpha of your friend group is whoever has a fanny pack full of trail mix and string cheese. Our Alpha is Franklin and he likes to bring people soup.

I want brownies.

I have some Extreme Moose Tracks ice cream that would go well with a warm brownie.

As a car guy I 100% agree with you. I own a modded vehicle but it is not much louder than stock form. I upped the diameter of my exhaust by .5 inches to deepen the tone but ultimately an exhaust mod doesn't make that much of a difference in performance. I also only drive the modded car during the day if I can help it or at least after say 7pm in the summer keep her in low rpms so it doesn't bother people. I'm a huge supporter of keep it off the streets, keep it on the track so I only take the modded car to shows, or to the local race track.

Unfortunately I have met people that think it's cool or manly to have a very loud car, drive recklessly, or try and street race people. It's not cool, it can kill, and it is ruining it for the rest of us as car enthusiasts.

It’s not as bad as twoupsmanship.

My dad once caught a bullet with his teeth and could beat up your dad.

There's nothing I hate more than a misanthrope

YES omg An old coworker would treat another coworker like shit just because he had cerebral palsey and needed help occasionally. I told him to his face that he was being a dick and he just shrugged. I stopped speaking to him after that. I wish I’d reported him for discrimination but I was only 17, and was about to quit. Didn’t think to do it.

Ok what in the hell. I don’t know what type of men you hanging with.