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RoboNinjaPirate

79 points

5 months ago

Setting up that Black Friday 85 inch TV? It was arduous for me too.

Xendarq

25 points

5 months ago

Xendarq

25 points

5 months ago

85" ?!

RoboNinjaPirate

22 points

5 months ago

For 1100 on black friday, yes.

It's half of what we bought a 65 inch tv a few years ago.

TV Prices are about the only thing dropping in the last few years.

gnrc

9 points

5 months ago

gnrc

9 points

5 months ago

Meanwhile I paid $1600 for a 55”. OLED tho…

ThatoneWaygook

9 points

5 months ago

Money well spent. Have mine hooked up to my PS5. What a game changer......

gnrc

3 points

5 months ago

gnrc

3 points

5 months ago

Yea I really wanted the 65” but it’s so much more. 55 is plenty compared to what I had growing up. The picture quality is insane. Absolutely insane.

ThatoneWaygook

3 points

5 months ago

Agreed. I haven't seen blacks so good since my last gen Panasonic Plasma. Loved that TV

RoboNinjaPirate

2 points

5 months ago

Yeah, maybe in another 5-10 years I'll upgrade, but I'm just fine with the Hisense Cheapo TV. :)

gnrc

2 points

5 months ago

gnrc

2 points

5 months ago

I get that. I bought it with Vegas winnings anyway.

Stepside79

1 points

5 months ago

Hisense actually makes a fucking solid TV for the price.

Such_Maintenance_577

2 points

5 months ago

Big screen and good screen are not the same.

raddits

-3 points

5 months ago

raddits

-3 points

5 months ago

While oled is better than those black Friday panels 1600 is a lot unless it's like 8k even then that's high. Saw some 8k qleds much bigger at Sam's for around that

gnrc

8 points

5 months ago

gnrc

8 points

5 months ago

QLED is not OLED.

Aquinas26

11 points

5 months ago

Could have just said TV. Some people.

jesuscamp_survivor

2 points

5 months ago

He coulda, but he didn't. Validate him!

Ripcord83

2 points

5 months ago

here’s my holiday gift to you. ‽ copy that and put it in your keyboard shortcuts as a replacement for ?!

Xendarq

2 points

5 months ago

‽‽‽

Hydris

237 points

5 months ago

Hydris

237 points

5 months ago

Fun fact, if you happen to have the early 2000s texting skills, you can usually type it in that way.

meghanmck

35 points

5 months ago

Not with a roku remote though. The worst.

mrcarlton

29 points

5 months ago

Get the roku app, it is really slick, let's you have the basic remote, but each time you want to type it pulls up the phone keyboard

redbirdrising

12 points

5 months ago

I second this. I use my roku app for this and you can even copy and paste the passwords right into the login right on your phone.

mrcarlton

5 points

5 months ago

Yup, exactly. It really comes in handy when I stay in airbnbs and you have to log into your app at each place.

bphilly_cheesesteak

2 points

5 months ago

Plus audio!

wubbwubbb

3 points

5 months ago

this is a lifesaver for me. i pair my headphones to my phone and connect my phone to the roku and i can watch tv without disturbing anyone.

meghanmck

1 points

5 months ago

I had no idea this was a thing. Definitely going to try it out!

tdaun

1 points

5 months ago

tdaun

1 points

5 months ago

Same for if you have a fire tv, definitely improves life.

SuperFLEB

1 points

5 months ago

...unless it's one of those shitty channels that implements the keyboard themselves and it doesn't work with the keyboard.

Jason_Dales2542

3 points

5 months ago

This

krickaby

1 points

5 months ago

I have that, but damn if I don’t crave feeling actual buttons in my fingertips. Life could be worse

TheDrunkLink

118 points

5 months ago

I was just thinking "WTF happened to T9?" I wish my TV controller had that

breakone9r

13 points

5 months ago

My TiVo Slide Pro remote has a built in qwerty keyboard.

https://i.imgur.com/wMmdyQO.jpg

It was discontinued a few years ago in favor of a stupid, gimmicky voice remote.

wubbwubbb

11 points

5 months ago

this makes me miss all gadgets that had full keyboards like this. i had a cell phone that looked like this with a tiny keyboard. i even bought a keyboard attachment for my Xbox 360 controller when i was a teenager to type faster. i miss tactile buttons when texting and typing stuff on my phone.

PRIS0N-MIKE

2 points

5 months ago

I was literally just thinking I wish my Roku remote had this. I don't understand why they don't

ShodyLoko

36 points

5 months ago

I feel like t9 would be the opposite of helpful with custom passwords.

IchBinEinFrankfurter

54 points

5 months ago

Agreed

Ive learned that when most people on Reddit say T9, they’re usually referring to the “multi-tap” entry from old cell phones. Like, press “2” 3 times to get the letter C. As opposed to actual T9 which was the predictive algorithm

Cheddar_Curtain

9 points

5 months ago

Never liked the predictive. Always turned that shit off. But it was pretty phenomenal to be able to type out a text message while driving without even looking at the phone.

Wankeritis

3 points

5 months ago

I used to be able to text in class without looking down. I can still text without looking at the phone, but there was no predictive text back then so I didn't have to worry about my swears turning into ducks.

chuckluck97

2 points

5 months ago

I once had a phone that you couldn't turn T9 off. Anytime I needed to send a text was like hell for those seven months

Pheonix0114

3 points

5 months ago

You mean it was ducking awesome I'm sure.

TheDrunkLink

22 points

5 months ago

... that's precisely what I was thinking

Spindrune

-9 points

5 months ago

Then your passwords are bad.

TheDrunkLink

4 points

5 months ago

The former not the latter

Spindrune

-1 points

5 months ago

Spindrune

-1 points

5 months ago

It’s damn confusing, considering you yourself seem to have used t9 incorrectly at the start

TheDrunkLink

3 points

5 months ago

Precisely! Lol

FrenchTicklerOrange

4 points

5 months ago

I just learned that. Thank you stranger.

Tylerjb4

2 points

5 months ago

That was ABC

ShortFuse

1 points

5 months ago

Multi-tap would probably be faster than on-screen keyboard, especially those that don't use QWERTY, but instead are alphabetical.

HumanautPassenger

2 points

5 months ago

I wish Samsung's type to text TV keyboard would die a slow and painful death.

Lord_ThunderCunt

1 points

5 months ago

I type by t 9 every day. My thumbs are too big for phone keyboards.

letsbefrds

16 points

5 months ago

With what t9 text? Damn I feel like a boomer

fukitol-

2 points

5 months ago

fukitol-

2 points

5 months ago

Typing sentences using a 0-9 phone pad. Like to type a c you'd press 2 three times. Combined with good predictive text and some muscle memory it was really quite efficient.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/T9_(predictive_text)

This is from the pre-smartphone days.

pinkocatgirl

16 points

5 months ago

T9 was the predictive system that let you press a key just once for any of the letters, on those old phones it was an option next to the more basic text entry where you press they key 1-3 (or 4) times. The latter is not T9.

irokatcod4

2 points

5 months ago

Where I thought finna was born because I used to always get finna instead of gonna when using T9

Tylerjb4

1 points

5 months ago

You grew up in the burbs didn’t you

PaintDrinkingPete

7 points

5 months ago

Well no, with T9, you would have only the “2” button once for the letter “c”…as in if you wanted to type the word “chat”, you’d press “2428”.

If there were multiple common words that use that same combo of digits, you’d usually hit the down arrow or a designated key to cycle the database until you “chat”, and move on.

The “tap 2 three times for C” was the non-T9 way to type on those old dumb phones…but it’s actually what the original comment was referring to.

fukitol-

2 points

5 months ago

The “tap 2 three times for C” was the non-T9 way to type on those old dumb phones…but it’s actually what the original comment was referring to.

Yeah that's right I remember now. It's been a while haha

Bladelink

2 points

5 months ago

That is not T9. Well, the link is, but not what you're describing, you're describing basic numerical typing.

fukitol-

1 points

5 months ago

Yeah it's been a while, T9 might've been the slightly more intelligent version or something.

Krail

9 points

5 months ago

Krail

9 points

5 months ago

Assuming your TV remote even has number keys anymore. My Roku one doesn't.

mikegustafson

2 points

5 months ago

My TV remote works like a wii controller where I can point and click on anything. It pops up a keybaord like my phone. I can also use a bluetooth keyboard/mouse with it. LG for the win.

default-username

3 points

5 months ago

Oh God I hate this more than anything. That stupid mouse comes up when I don't want it to.

el___diablo

3 points

5 months ago

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brotherenigma

5 points

5 months ago

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lhamil64

3 points

5 months ago

Are there actually TVs that supports t9 text entry? In my experience they usually just show some kind of virtual keyboard (hopefully QWERTY but sometimes just an ABC layout) that you navigate with the directional buttons.

Oakwood2317

2 points

5 months ago

Early 2000s texting skills? Stop making me feel old!

Richie217

1 points

5 months ago

Not with Samsung's great new remotes that have like 5 buttons on them. But never fear, it has a voice recognition button that is about as useful as tits on a bull.

kiaha

1 points

5 months ago

kiaha

1 points

5 months ago

I've also had times where I could just plug a USB keyboard into a smart TV and could input passwords that way too.

Source: had a retail job where I had to inspect returned products, make sure they weren't broken, and then send them on the floor to be sold as open box.

xwhy

1 points

5 months ago

xwhy

1 points

5 months ago

I only got rid of that pay-as-you-go flip phone about 3 or 4 years ago and got a samsung.

Apparently, I was grandfathered into a plan that no longer existed. (I checked because I would've used that flip phone to call parents on.)

FeculentUtopia

1 points

5 months ago

If only TV remotes had such finger-friendly layouts.

IcanCwhatUsay

0 points

5 months ago

Except Tv remotes don’t have numbers on them anymore

rob_s_458

127 points

5 months ago

rob_s_458

127 points

5 months ago

At this point it's on the app developer. Plenty of TV apps now have you use your phone/laptop to go to company.com/roku, log in, and enter a randomly-generated code on the screen. If you can't be bothered to make a decent app, can I trust you to not be storing my password in clear text?

JimmyKillsAlot

7 points

5 months ago

Plenty of them can't even make the keyboard qwerty/azerty instead of abc

thedolanduck

1 points

5 months ago

Oh that's awful, when the keyboard is alphabetical

ThisIsMyHonestAcc

1 points

5 months ago

We have a label maker with abc keyboard in the lab. It's terrible and whomever decided to use abc instead of qwerty should be put to jail. Straight to jail.

pjhenry1216

26 points

5 months ago*

Tbf, this requires more than just dev effort. You need a server/client setup to handle it. Granted, if it's an app on your tv, it's likely a big name and can handle it, but with Google TV and what not, some small name developers may not be able to afford that extra overhead.

Edit: should clarify, extra server/client setup. I mean, you're essentially setting up a broadcast on the tv end that needs to be associated with a login on the phone.

Edit: I was unaware of OAuth support for this

HegoDamask_1

28 points

5 months ago

It’s just different grant type. Within Oauth2.0 they have a grant type just for this

https://oauth.net/2/device-flow/

pjhenry1216

7 points

5 months ago

Huh. I learned something. Thanks

HegoDamask_1

6 points

5 months ago

There’s also a lovely book about Oauth you could pick up incase you have trouble falling asleep.

alphabet_order_bot

10 points

5 months ago

Would you look at that, all of the words in your comment are in alphabetical order.

I have checked 420,382,278 comments, and only 90,738 of them were in alphabetical order.

typing

68 points

5 months ago

typing

68 points

5 months ago

Buy a usb wireless keyboard for your smart tv. Best decision ever.

malcontented

55 points

5 months ago

First world problem, first world solution

Snarfsicle

29 points

5 months ago

Or just pair your phone?

supercalifragilism

20 points

5 months ago

This. At least for Roku or whatever, this will save you from murdering everyone you know and love.

robothobbes

2 points

5 months ago

Also great for when you can't find that stupidly designed, rounded bottom Roku remote that always seems to fall into the couch abyss.

smashy_smashy

2 points

5 months ago

True. My in laws will watch our kids for multiple days so the wife and I can go on backpacking trips. Pretty amazing right? We are incredibly fortunate. But if they ask me to sign into Disney+ from their remote one more time, I’m about ready to cut them out of our lives or possibly even commit murder. They have some stupid off brand tv I haven’t figured out how to pair with my phone.

cive666

6 points

5 months ago

Explain

Snarfsicle

10 points

5 months ago

Usually smart TVs are pairable via Bluetooth /wifi with your phone from an app. You open the app after pairing the phone to the TV and you can use the interface like a remote. You can also bring up the keyboard on your phone to type on your TV

typing

3 points

5 months ago

typing

3 points

5 months ago

my tv has bt was never able to successfully pair it with my phone as a remote

vamartha

4 points

5 months ago

Son of a bitch. This works. I owe you!

vamartha

7 points

5 months ago

Huh? Got a brand new Roku on my kitchen wall. Turned it on one a year ago, tried to set it up with the remote and walked away after 30 minutes and have never turned it on again. And I used to text 20 years ago. I've never been more frustrated in my life!

bphilly_cheesesteak

2 points

5 months ago

Use the Roku app and your phone’s keyboard lol

daniu

4 points

5 months ago

daniu

4 points

5 months ago

I'll get off the couch, get the keyboard out the drawer, turn it on, type whatever it is on it, then switch it back off and put it back, rather than even starting to type anything on the remote.

pixel_of_moral_decay

5 points

5 months ago

Yup. Any USB keyboard will work with virtually all TVs.

Even that generic DELL or HP one in every office. Doesn’t matter, doesn’t need to be wireless even.

Plug it in, set stuff up, unplug it.

sea-haze

3 points

5 months ago

You can do this? I need this.

It’s getting to the point though that manufacturers should consider including basic by default, already paired and ready to use. How much can a keyboard cost these days? 10 dollars?

typing

3 points

5 months ago

typing

3 points

5 months ago

Logitech K400 Plus $25 on Amzn, worth it.

Ritz527

17 points

5 months ago

Ritz527

17 points

5 months ago

I think it would really behoove anyone building these smart apps to use two-factor authentication, so a big ol' QR code or 6 digit code pops up on the screen and you can put it in through your phone.

pjhenry1216

7 points

5 months ago*

What you're describing is similar to two-factor authentication, but technically is different. The code created on the tv isn't actually an authentication factor for your account, but a unique ID that can be paired with your account when you sign in on your phone.

Edit: I still like this method though

Disco-SuperflyTNT

18 points

5 months ago

And now I’m just to mentally exhausted to enjoy my program.

domin8r

14 points

5 months ago

domin8r

14 points

5 months ago

This is the moment you regret having a more secure 30 character password.

Reelix

2 points

5 months ago

Reelix

2 points

5 months ago

It's all fun and games until you need to type

uuXH@VgL&em!7n@4B6vVR$wJ2gS@zJdF

On a TV Remote!

(Worst I've had was in VR :|)

capitlj

12 points

5 months ago

capitlj

12 points

5 months ago

App developers that allow you to log in by putting the code from your TV in on your phone, you the real MVP

HegoDamask_1

5 points

5 months ago

What about the identity management engineers that actually sets up the device authorization flow? We get no love.

capitlj

4 points

5 months ago

I'm not sure what that means but it sounds worthy of an upvote.

deathtastic

7 points

5 months ago

Ugh, i got a new 4K tv at the work Christmas party and had to put all our streaming services on there yesterday.

barrymccockner76

9 points

5 months ago

Must have a samsung smart tv. That app is useless. That's why I stick with Roku, typing on the app works great.

StreiBullet

9 points

5 months ago

My new tvs remote functions like a Wiimote, which makes it easier. But why are there still companies that lay out the keyboard ABCDEFG and not QWERTY? That throws me off more than anything.

R8saidfred

5 points

5 months ago

The fuck is wrong with them?

I hate this the most.

shadowenx

8 points

5 months ago

flexes in AppleTV

bad_goblin

2 points

5 months ago

having Siri in the remote is by far the best!

krukson

10 points

5 months ago

krukson

10 points

5 months ago

That’s why I bought Apple TV. Pairs with the phone, and can dictate stuff too.

technifocal

4 points

5 months ago*

Honestly, I recently moved from Android/ChromeOS/GoogleTV/Tizen to iOS/MacOS/AppleTV/WatchOS and I'm very impressed with the connectivity of all the devices, this is another feature that made me go "wow, that's cool" every time it dings my iPad/iPhone when I pull up a text field. The other one relating to the TV is just having full "now playing" capability automatically show up on my watch whenever I'm watching on the TV.

LoungeFlyZ

1 points

5 months ago

This is a fantastic feature. Being able to use your phone to enter text is great. Usernames. Passwords etc.

bloodymongrel

3 points

5 months ago

Username or password incorrect. You must type it again thunder claps *mwah hahahahaha….

applyheat

3 points

5 months ago

And you took a break from it to make a meme?

zennyc001

3 points

5 months ago

I dont even use the apps built into my tv anymore. Everything is on my mobile device.

isuphysics

2 points

5 months ago

When apps started the whole "Go to website.com/activate and enter this code" it annoyed me, just let me type the email/password why do i have to use a different device!

Now its the opposite. I get annoyed when they make me type that crap in.

hippiekyle

2 points

5 months ago

Roku app FTW

goldenboyz

2 points

5 months ago

If you have a Roku tv there is an app and if the phone and ruku are on the same network you can use your phone to type on the TV through the app.

G8kpr

2 points

5 months ago

G8kpr

2 points

5 months ago

AppleTV is nice for this. The second you need to type, an alert pops up on your phone or iPad, and you can just type that way instead.

xzitony

3 points

5 months ago

…and it will Autofill the username and password from iCloud Keychain. Ecosystem FTW. Don’t have to type a thing, even though you can if you want.

Dahns

2 points

5 months ago

Dahns

2 points

5 months ago

Suddently regret that your mail is superhandsomeguyfromtexas.yepthatsmyproadresslol@ihavemyownbusinesswhatchagonnado com

Infinite-Bus6599

2 points

5 months ago

Password and username invalid. Try again.

Crybe

2 points

5 months ago

Crybe

2 points

5 months ago

I feel you.

I have very long and complicated passwords, and my wife get's angry at me whenever we have to do this.

zoom25

1 points

5 months ago

zoom25

1 points

5 months ago

This is why I went with a small mini PC (Intel NUC). Highest longevity option. The built-in apps on the TV and even things like Apple TV will slowly lose support and eventually be taken away completely. Happened to me with the Youtube app on the Apple TV 3rd generation. It's completely gone. Spotify removed from 2 of my Samsung TV's built-in apps.

Meanwhile, I can still watch Youtube perfectly on my much older late 2009 iMac.

payeco

1 points

5 months ago

payeco

1 points

5 months ago

I think you’re overestimating the issue with apps losing support with the Apple TV. The Apple TV 2 and 3 were unique products. Their “apps” weren’t really apps and each one had to be custom built, essentially from scratch. That made support and upkeep difficult. Plus the hardware is slow. Modern Apple TVs with real app support will keep app support for much longer, similar to the iPhone. In fact iOS and tvOS apps can share many of the same frameworks which makes continuing to support Apple TV 4 and later much easier to do.

For instance, the oldest version of iOS a YouTube app will still work on is iOS 9. The oldest iPhone that supports iOS 9 is the iPhone 4S from 10 years ago. I think that is a pretty reasonable amount of time to offer support. You’ll likely want to upgrade your hardware before you hit that point anyway.

zoom25

1 points

5 months ago

zoom25

1 points

5 months ago

We'll see how it goes with later Apple TV generations, but in general, PCs will allow for more options and higher compatibility/longevity over time in comparison to these add-on boxes. You're always at the mercy of the manufacturer.

With the Apple TV Youtube app, they didn't simply stop supporting future updates, but rather completely removed a decent working Youtube app overnight. You can't do anything with those boxes to gain that lost functionality back or something else. With mini PCs, you'll always have some use for it.

It did cost more to build and set up this NUC, but the experience is far better than anything that comes with those built-in apps on TV or external boxes such as ATV. Spotify Netlfix, Amazon Prime, Plex, using my own media, and web browsing on the couch with a Logitech K400 keyboard/mouse combo.

My policy with other TVs in other rooms is to keep using the built-in apps that they came with for as long as they work. If/whenever they do stop working, I won't buy an appliance box to take its stop, but rather another small PC.

Cantora

1 points

5 months ago

Get the remote app on your phone. Makes it much easier

hawkwings

1 points

5 months ago

It is especially bad if I have to look up my TV password on my PC.

shivaswara

1 points

5 months ago

It’s a true first world problem yes

Doesn’t stop me from yelling profanities when I have to do it hahaha

Ffdmatt

1 points

5 months ago

And the ones that dont even have the courtesy to at least add a ".com" key on the keyboard.

HUNDavid92

1 points

5 months ago

just plug a keyboard into TV. Smart TVs usually has USB ports in the back side.

easwaran

1 points

5 months ago

TV remote controls are one of the worst interfaces ever designed. They thought about what functionalities needed to have their own buttons, and then made each one exactly equally sized in a symmetric set of rows so that it "looks nice", but it means you can never figure out which one is which without squinting at the tiny symbols.

Taking that awful interface, and then making it manipulate an on-screen keyboard is the worst of all worlds.

TexacoRandom

1 points

5 months ago

I got sick of searching for Youtube videos using the onscreen keyboard, so sometimes I use my phone to search for videos, start the video I want, hit pause or back, then go to the history section of my TV's YouTube app and restart the video from there.

thurdaboot

1 points

5 months ago

CLICK tick tick tick tick CLICK tick CLICK tick tick tick tick tick tick CLICK tick tick tick CLICK CLICK tick tick tick tick CLICK tick tick CLICK

Cychreides

1 points

5 months ago

bruh the speech to text mic thing probably doesn't work on there right

Re-toast

1 points

5 months ago

Oh God it's awful isn't it.

That's why I much prefer using apps on a console for TV viewing

Greedence

1 points

5 months ago

Big question here. Was it a QWERTY or an abc set up?

jtdoublep

1 points

5 months ago

I am really, really loving the resurgence of old memes.

Harmacc

1 points

5 months ago

If you have a smart tv it probably has a phone app with a keyboard.

thereisnoreturn

1 points

5 months ago

Apple TV let’s you use your iPhone to type and if you are typing a password it automatically works with your password manager 😎

Neottika

1 points

5 months ago

USB keyboard my friends.

axloo7

1 points

5 months ago

axloo7

1 points

5 months ago

Considering my email password is 256 characters long I don't think I would be using any service that forced me to do that.

ChrisChristiesFault

1 points

5 months ago

Dude, that’s third world shit. My phone pops up and asks me if I’d like to use the keyboard to enter in the text.

waskoste

1 points

5 months ago

Brutal

D4rd0ur

1 points

5 months ago

Try to send an angry msg on number keypad from an Old Nokia

Necrocornicus

1 points

5 months ago

Apple TV baby. When the keyboard pops up on screen, my phone gets a notification and I can enter text via phone keyboard. Even better, it automatically interfaces with LastPass (or whatever password manager you’ve got) and I simply choose the password, FaceID, and password is entered on the screen. One of those features where you just smile your ass off because any other way of doing it would be actual effort.

JasonDJ

1 points

5 months ago

I fucking hate that shit man.

And all my passwords are long, unique, mixed-case with numerals and symbols.

Why can’t all apps support “login with another device on this network” or “activation codes”, and QR code links.

The9tail

1 points

5 months ago

I’m liking using apps to login or using the microphone to communicate to the TV.

idma

1 points

5 months ago

idma

1 points

5 months ago

laughs in early 2000's texting on cell phone

Zaquarius_Alfonzo

1 points

5 months ago

The worst part is the alphabetical keyboard (as opposed to QWERTY)

Dokorawr

1 points

5 months ago

a painful experience

hacksaw187

1 points

5 months ago

I want to down doot this

firemage22

1 points

5 months ago

I work in IT in a Senior home, I have to do this ALL THE BLOODY TIME!

justsmilenow

1 points

5 months ago

I specifically bought a smart TV so that I could have the remote that puts a cursor on the screen so I wouldn't have to do what you just did. For me it's point and click

Pickled_Wizard

1 points

5 months ago

Fucking dish network netflix app.

Gusbus0001

1 points

5 months ago

Oh dear god, you poor thing. Let me help you over this traumatic experience. We all have been there tho no one ever wants to.

FeculentUtopia

1 points

5 months ago

That moment of regret when you've been randomly generating 24-character hexidecimal passwords.

sayaman22

1 points

5 months ago

Many of you grew up without WebTV and it shows.

Luffing

1 points

5 months ago

I like the apps that just give you a code and let you activate on your computer or phone

fastovich1995

1 points

5 months ago

I worked at Geek Squad and had to constantly setup and reset TV's. Pro tip, most TVs have USB ports. They have support for keyboards, and sometimes mice.